Defense Secretary Mattis 'retiring' at end of February
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This is high school.history
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1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years. Caliphates mean anything to you? Crusades? Charles Martell?
You should shut the fuck up once in a while.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
Rudimentary knowledge of history isnt "narcissistic arrogance"...its just knowing something that people refuse to acknowledge and/or learn about no matter how many times its gently mentioned to.them.
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2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years.
That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
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That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
It proves the middle east hasnt been in a perpetual state of war for billions of earth years, as was prior asserted. Are YOU this stupid?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Middle_East
From the 3rd up to the course of the 7th century AD, the entire Middle East was dominated by the Byzantines and Sassanid Persia. From the 7th century, a new power was rising in the Middle East, that of Islam. The dominance of the Arabs came to a sudden end in the mid-11th century with the arrival of the Seljuq Turks. In the early 13th century, a new wave of invaders, the armies of the Mongol Empire, mainly Turkic, swept through the region. By the early 15th century, a new power had arisen in western Anatolia, the Ottoman emirs, linguistically Turkic and religiously Islamic, who in 1453 captured the Christian Byzantine capital of Constantinople and made themselves sultans.
Large parts of the Middle East became a warground between the Ottomans and Iranian Safavids for centuries starting in the early 16th century.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Byzantine_Empire#Leonid_dynasty
The Arabs, now firmly in control of Syria and the Levant, sent frequent raiding parties deep into Asia Minor, and in 674–678 laid siege to Constantinople itself. The Arab fleet was finally repulsed through the use of Greek fire, and a thirty-years' truce was signed between the Empire and the Umayyad Caliphate.[
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This is high school.history
This is high school.history
So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book.
But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
WSS
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Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
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Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
1) i didnt claim i was a history guru, my point about it being HS history was to ellucidate that this ISNT some obscure time in history people know little about. In fact the basics of medical anatomy the british are often credited with fiscovering, actually came from the doctors in egypt. Where the british doctors went to study.
2) As to ur second point, did i insinuate the ME wasnt a current dumpster fire? I was responding to someones erroneous assertion that the middle east has been in perpetual war for millions of years...?
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This is high school.history
So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book.
But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
WSS
I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
And neither did I, ur point?
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I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
And neither did I, ur point?
And neither did I, ur point?
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
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And neither did I, ur point?
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.
But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.
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My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.
But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.
I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.
But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.
I don't agree at all. I think economic situations proximity of War Etc will cause people to get crazy. Oftentimes they take that craziness and projected through the prism of religion and use it as an excuse. Like some of the people who use Christianity to Badger people who don't want the borders overrun by immigrants from third world shitholes . But just being Fundamentalist it's no big deal. Not my cup of tea but for the most part fundamentalists I know are fine people. Most rank-and-file Church doors are not Fundamentalist. And I don't personally know anybody who actively follows the Old Testament with violence towards non-believers. Amish Seventh Day Adventist Foursquare gospel even Jehovah Witnesses seem like decent folks as far as I can tell.
WSS
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U should prob be made aware that Grant and the dude on the right may very well have more in common than u think....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2016/08/08/inside-cary-grants-secret-life-with-men/amp/
I hope u can get some sleep tonight despite this seusmic revelation about ur dapper, well dressed hero u seem to idolize.
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The defense rests its case ur honour.....
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I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.
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I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.
I should have figured you would have personal knowledge.
Dude died before i was born, ive read about this for years tho. Not surprised u had affinity for a sekret pecker puller tho......?
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Make America Great Again! ??
The "Rock" LOL. In 1975 I had just gotten out of Naval training school in San Diego and was reporting to my ship stationed in Long Beach Ca which was in dry dock. I thought something was odd when the bus pulled into the Long Beach Naval Station and the sign said San Francisco Naval Station.. When I got off the bus I went to report in and I saw this Admiral coming at me all decked out in gold so I gave him my best salute and he just scowled back at me. When I went around the corner I saw all the cameras and they were filming an episode of McMillan and Wife and the admiral I saluted was Rock Hudson. This was back when nobody had heard of AIDS or that Hudson was gay.
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