Defense Secretary Mattis 'retiring' at end of February
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And I hate to say this but when it comes to intervening in Muslim countries it seems no matter how much we try to help we will always be the infidels so why bother?
And ive been arguing that point to u sunce i joined here. But noooowwww that rich white monkey holds that view now ur in favor of not bombing simple people who just want to grow some fucking olives then die peacefully. We fucking militarized those people over nearly a century now of faggotry in theur lands.
I guess we beed to elect more rich white monkeys huh?
And ive been arguing that point to u sunce i joined here. But noooowwww that rich white monkey holds that view now ur in favor of not bombing simple people who just want to grow some fucking olives then die peacefully. We fucking militarized those people over nearly a century now of faggotry in theur lands.
I guess we beed to elect more rich white monkeys huh?
Nothing to do with Trump...I started questioning the wisdom of the Iraq war within a year. Colin Powell was right when he said if we broke it we bought it and he was right and what did we buy in the end? Same way with Libya I questioned the wisdom of what we did long before Trump. I'm still on board with Mattis, Pompeo and Bolton on keeping our troops in Syria mainly because I hate to see what is going to happen to the Kurds there who have helped us and always seem to get the short end of the stick for their help.
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But I don't care about that. I have no particular animosity toward the russkis and never have. This modern-day McCarthyism is situational.
WSD
Those men who were sanctioned were sanction because they tried to fuck with YOUR VOTE, and not just in 2016 but also the recent midterms. Ive been saying fir 2 years the russian intervention wasnt in behalf if their beloved Donald....they laugh at him.....they're sowing discord which means they'll help the side which generates the most rage from the other. Do not be surprised to see a "democratic socialist" as our next president and dont be surprised if there was russian involvement because the "rage factor" on the right will hit the lower atmosphere.
You'll care then about russian or anyone elses interference then, i promise u that.
Those men who were sanctioned were sanction because they tried to fuck with YOUR VOTE, and not just in 2016 but also the recent midterms. Ive been saying fir 2 years the russian intervention wasnt in behalf if their beloved Donald....they laugh at him.....they're sowing discord which means they'll help the side which generates the most rage from the other. Do not be surprised to see a "democratic socialist" as our next president and dont be surprised if there was russian involvement because the "rage factor" on the right will hit the lower atmosphere.
You'll care then about russian or anyone elses interference then, i promise u that.
No I wont. And the Democrats wouldn't give a shit about whatever the russkis did if their girl didn't lose. And she didn't lose because of anything the Russians put on Facebook she lost because she's the only candidate in the world people hated worse than Donald Trump. Plus whatever shit was revealed is shit she actually did so you guys, at least the regular Democrats, want to shoot the messenger. I don't remember any of the lefties shitting their pants over Woodward and Bernstein.
And we're going to have a Social Democrat in the White House soon enough. Not because of Any fake news from either side but because there are just too many lazy ass Deadbeats who are looking for a free ride and blame successful people for them not having one
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And I hate to say this but when it comes to intervening in Muslim countries it seems no matter how much we try to help we will always be the infidels so why bother?
And ive been arguing that point to u sunce i joined here. But noooowwww that rich white monkey holds that view now ur in favor of not bombing simple people who just want to grow some fucking olives then die peacefully. We fucking militarized those people over nearly a century now of faggotry in theur lands.
I guess we beed to elect more rich white monkeys huh?
And ive been arguing that point to u sunce i joined here. But noooowwww that rich white monkey holds that view now ur in favor of not bombing simple people who just want to grow some fucking olives then die peacefully. We fucking militarized those people over nearly a century now of faggotry in theur lands.
I guess we beed to elect more rich white monkeys huh?
Ha
You think the middle east is just some fucking peaceful olive farm?
Jesus Christ Cleve. I've rarely seen you say anything more fucking stupid than this.
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And ive been arguing that point to u sunce i joined here. But noooowwww that rich white monkey holds that view now ur in favor of not bombing simple people who just want to grow some fucking olives then die peacefully. We fucking militarized those people over nearly a century now of faggotry in theur lands.
I guess we beed to elect more rich white monkeys huh?
Ha
You think the middle east is just some fucking peaceful olive farm?
Jesus Christ Cleve. I've rarely seen you say anything more fucking stupid than this.
Ha
You think the middle east is just some fucking peaceful olive farm?
Jesus Christ Cleve. I've rarely seen you say anything more fucking stupid than this.
1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
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Spread your vast knowledge Cleve. Lets hear it. Besides talking shit. Provide some fucking proof.
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Ha
You think the middle east is just some fucking peaceful olive farm?
Jesus Christ Cleve. I've rarely seen you say anything more fucking stupid than this.
1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years. Caliphates mean anything to you? Crusades? Charles Martell?
You should shut the fuck up once in a while.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years. Caliphates mean anything to you? Crusades? Charles Martell?
You should shut the fuck up once in a while.
2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years.
That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
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This is high school.history
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1) i know far more about the middle east, its current and past history....than u would learn in 2 lifetimes.
2) The people in "power" in the middle east....are not peaceful olive farmers. But its the simple ngrs that suffer the most when we go waltzing in there and start unloading ammo warehouses. And its THOSE people then who the people in power use to keep their positions of power because they just parrot anti american rhetoric.
You simply dont understand the dynamics in effect in that region that were put in place now over 100 years ago.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years. Caliphates mean anything to you? Crusades? Charles Martell?
You should shut the fuck up once in a while.
1. Classic narcissistic arrogance. I've been there. You haven't. You have not a clue what I know about it.
Rudimentary knowledge of history isnt "narcissistic arrogance"...its just knowing something that people refuse to acknowledge and/or learn about no matter how many times its gently mentioned to.them.
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2. The middle east has been in a state of perpetual war for thousands of years.
That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
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That statement right there is why i dont bother. People just couldnt be bothered to become educated.
"The Islamic Golden Age is the era in the history of Islam, traditionally dated from the 8th century to the 14th century, during which much of the historically Islamic world was ruled by various caliphates, and science, economic development and cultural works flourished.[1][2][3] This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, where scholars from various parts of the world with different cultural backgrounds were mandated to gather and translate all of the world's classical knowledge into the Arabic language.[4][5] This period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasionsand the Siege of Baghdad in 1258 AD.[6] A few contemporary scholars place the end of the Islamic Golden Age as late as the end of 15th to 16th centuries.[1]"[2][3]"
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
WTF is this supposed to prove? Man your fucking stupid.
It proves the middle east hasnt been in a perpetual state of war for billions of earth years, as was prior asserted. Are YOU this stupid?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Middle_East
From the 3rd up to the course of the 7th century AD, the entire Middle East was dominated by the Byzantines and Sassanid Persia. From the 7th century, a new power was rising in the Middle East, that of Islam. The dominance of the Arabs came to a sudden end in the mid-11th century with the arrival of the Seljuq Turks. In the early 13th century, a new wave of invaders, the armies of the Mongol Empire, mainly Turkic, swept through the region. By the early 15th century, a new power had arisen in western Anatolia, the Ottoman emirs, linguistically Turkic and religiously Islamic, who in 1453 captured the Christian Byzantine capital of Constantinople and made themselves sultans.
Large parts of the Middle East became a warground between the Ottomans and Iranian Safavids for centuries starting in the early 16th century.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Byzantine_Empire#Leonid_dynasty
The Arabs, now firmly in control of Syria and the Levant, sent frequent raiding parties deep into Asia Minor, and in 674–678 laid siege to Constantinople itself. The Arab fleet was finally repulsed through the use of Greek fire, and a thirty-years' truce was signed between the Empire and the Umayyad Caliphate.[
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This is high school.history
This is high school.history
So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book.
But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
WSS
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Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
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Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
Clev, you can’t claim that you are some ME history guru then at the same time claim this info is highschool history.
Also, the region may have been enlightened at one point but those days are long gone and far predate US involvement.
1) i didnt claim i was a history guru, my point about it being HS history was to ellucidate that this ISNT some obscure time in history people know little about. In fact the basics of medical anatomy the british are often credited with fiscovering, actually came from the doctors in egypt. Where the british doctors went to study.
2) As to ur second point, did i insinuate the ME wasnt a current dumpster fire? I was responding to someones erroneous assertion that the middle east has been in perpetual war for millions of years...?
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This is high school.history
So is George Washington chopping down the cherry tree and Abe Lincoln walking 5 miles to return a book.
But yes a few civilizations including the Romans Greeks Chinese Etc had extremely high peaks of enlightenment which are, as you should admit, somewhat fluid. I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
WSS
I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
And neither did I, ur point?
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I wouldn't say most people in the modern day Middle East are at the top of that Hill today.
And neither did I, ur point?
And neither did I, ur point?
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
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And neither did I, ur point?
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
My point should be clear. Things change Empires and great societies rise and fall.
WSS
I didnt assert otherwise. There was a time in Islam when they were the academic center of our universe. Modern kniwledge of human anatomy came from Alexandria and the Brirish doctors wesrern society gives credit for certain disciveries, they studied in egypt.
But to.their discredit, the fundamentalist muslims destroyed that. They were very likely responsible fir burning down the great library. Fundamentalist "anything" is a ngr that needs avoided at all costs.
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