who would be your choice?
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if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?
if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?
If it was up to me it'd be Arians as HC, Kitchens as AHC/OC (so he doesn't leave) and Bowles as DC.
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I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.
Mike, I think that would clobber all the invested time and training that went into the drastic improvements finally making this fan base happy.
Not only that, if you want to change Baker Mayfield's mind about Cleveland being RIGHT this place is for him - firing Kichens would do that. The same would hold true for all the guys that love playing for Gregg Williams.
We FINALLY have a reason guys WANT to be in Cleveland as well as a recruiting attraction for FAs. The best way to kill all that is to fire the entire coaching staff. NO THANKS!
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As the reporter Andre Knott(I think that’s his name) was saying, this is going to be the most difficult offseason for Cleveland in a long time..
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I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.
Let’s hope you are wrong. It’s very obvious to me the impact coaching can have on a team. We went from crap to contender level play with only a change in coaching. We should have a full court press on retaining what’s working. With added talent and the current staff ( including current play installation) we are a 10 win team. New staff and we are a complete roll of the dice again. Screw the shiny new toy approach.
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Gregg Williams has a plethora of coaching experience as both a defensive coordinator and head coach.
Freddie Kitchens has his first job running an offense, an offense that is VASTLY improved.
IMO, it is a no brainer to go with Williams and let Kitchens further his experience. I do not see any team going after him based on 1/2 season running an offense. Kitchens has a lot of tools on offense he can work with and establish a pedigree for success. The best thing he could do is interview for the position, continue to build his offense, win this team a division title, and then see what is available.
Let us say he goes to Arizona. They have a rotten offense with a vastly declining Larry Fitzgerald. The tools he will be given are not as sharp as Cleveland and won't have the same successes he has had in Cleveland.
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Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year
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Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year
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Can we trade coaches for picks? Raiders traded grudden to Tampa. Thoughts. Trade to green bay or jets.
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Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year
Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year
There are rumors he is of interest as a HC elsewhere, if they are determined to keep him long term HC may be the only way.
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Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year
Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year
Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that.
The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install
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Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year
Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that.
The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install
Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that.
The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install
I’m not sure I agree with the damn good part. We’ve beaten one team with a winning record and that was in October. Last year everyone wanted Williams fired for playing Peppers 30 yards off the line and now he’s the savior. The Bengal team that was beaten today was missing their starting QB, both WRs, both TEs, WIL LB and DB. KC, Texans and Pittsburgh best is easily. I think a good offensive mind will understand what Baker can and can’t do and a good defensive mind will understand our concepts.
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Keep Williams as HC
Keep Kitchens as OC
FIRE ANUS
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Keep Williams as HC
Keep Kitchens as OC
FIRE ANUS
Isn't that a condition you get from eating too much roughage and hot sauce?
WSS
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I think it's up to Williams and his attitude in an interview.
Maybe he doesn't want the HC job. If he really does, and they don't offer it, he walks away.
I think it's up to Williams and his attitude in an interview.
Maybe he doesn't want the HC job. If he really does, and they don't offer it, he walks away.
Pretty much.
He's either getting the head coach job or he's gone. There's no way they could keep him around, because that would make for an awkward locker room dynamic.
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I think it's up to Williams and his attitude in an interview.
Maybe he doesn't want the HC job. If he really does, and they don't offer it, he walks away.
Pretty much.
He's either getting the head coach job or he's gone. There's no way they could keep him around, because that would make for an awkward locker room dynamic.
Pretty much.
He's either getting the head coach job or he's gone. There's no way they could keep him around, because that would make for an awkward locker room dynamic.
Agree. Weird thing is he might actually not care about the prestige/money involved in being a HC.
Maybe he'd stay and make a modest pay raise as DC if offered it
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Pretty much.
He's either getting the head coach job or he's gone. There's no way they could keep him around, because that would make for an awkward locker room dynamic.
Agree. Weird thing is he might actually not care about the prestige/money involved in being a HC.
Maybe he'd stay and make a modest pay raise as DC if offered it
Agree. Weird thing is he might actually not care about the prestige/money involved in being a HC.
Maybe he'd stay and make a modest pay raise as DC if offered it
I can't see a situation where Dorsey doesn't give Williams the job but he's kept as DC.
Wouldn't be really fair to the new head coach to have the guy (Williams) some of the players in the locker room wished was given the HC job still in the room.
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