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  • flyingfooldoug flyingfooldougF One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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    The team overall is responding very well to Williams and with Kitchens and Baker having their thing going on, you stand pat and pay the men

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      Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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      If Williams is willing to go back to DC, then I would like to bring in Arians as HC. That's unlikely so I would just keep the staff in tact except for our ST coach. 

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        LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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        I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

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        • LBC mikeL LBC mike

          I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          @lbc-mike said:

          I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

          I would hate that.

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          • B beare

            https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-face-tough-coaching-decision-freddie-kitchens-gregg-williams-154906516.html

            if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?

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            R Realplayer wrote on last edited by
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            @beare said:

            https://www.yahoo.com/sports/browns-face-tough-coaching-decision-freddie-kitchens-gregg-williams-154906516.html

            if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?

            If it was up to me it'd be Arians as HC, Kitchens as AHC/OC (so he doesn't leave) and Bowles as DC. 

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            • LBC mikeL LBC mike

              I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

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              R Realplayer wrote on last edited by
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              @lbc-mike said:

              I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

              Same. Can't see Dorsey passing on hiring his own guy (McCarthy). I'm curious to see if he takes the job since it's likely the Jets will have opening at HC.

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              • LBC mikeL LBC mike

                I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

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                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                @lbc-mike said:

                I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

                Mike, I think that would clobber all the invested time and training that went into the drastic improvements finally making this fan base happy. 

                Not only that, if you want to change Baker Mayfield's mind about Cleveland being RIGHT this place is for him - firing Kichens would do that.  The same would hold true for all the guys that love playing for Gregg Williams.

                We FINALLY have a reason guys WANT to be in Cleveland as well as a recruiting attraction for FAs.   The best way to kill all that is to fire the entire coaching staff.   NO THANKS!

                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                  CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                  As the reporter Andre Knott(I think that’s his name) was saying, this is going to be the most difficult offseason for Cleveland in a long time..

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                  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

                    I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

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                    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                    @lbc-mike said:

                    I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.

                    Let’s hope you are wrong. It’s very obvious to me the impact coaching can have on a team. We went from crap to contender level play with only a change in coaching. We should have a full court press on retaining what’s working. With added talent and the current staff ( including current play installation) we are a 10 win team. New staff and we are a complete roll of the dice again. Screw the shiny new toy approach. 

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                    • beare B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                      B beare wrote on last edited by
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                      I think they be crazy to change now however the problem is i think someone may offer kitchens a better offer. The problem with going a different route is if your wrong it sets the team back-it may tick of your star players and def will tick off the fanbase.

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                        W WinnipegClevelandBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        Gregg Williams has a plethora of coaching experience as both a defensive coordinator and head coach.

                        Freddie Kitchens has his first job running an offense, an offense that is VASTLY improved.

                        IMO, it is a no brainer to go with Williams and let Kitchens further his experience.  I do not see any team going after him based on 1/2 season running an offense.  Kitchens has a lot of tools on offense he can work with and establish a pedigree for success.  The best thing he could do is interview for the position, continue to build his offense, win this team a division title, and then see what is available.

                        Let us say he goes to Arizona.  They have a rotten offense with a vastly declining Larry Fitzgerald.  The tools he will be given are not as sharp as Cleveland and won't have the same successes he has had in Cleveland.

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                          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                          Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year

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                            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                            I'm all for keeping Williams but this prevent defense bullshit and Special Teams gaffs have too STOP!!.. It starts by firing Anus Jones...

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                              B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                              Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year

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                                LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                                Can we trade coaches for picks?  Raiders traded grudden to Tampa. Thoughts.  Trade to green bay or jets.

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                                  Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year

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                                  jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year

                                  There are rumors he is of interest as a HC elsewhere, if they are determined to keep him long term HC may be the only way. 

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                                    Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year

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                                    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year

                                    Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that. 

                                    The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year

                                      Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that. 

                                      The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install

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                                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                      @jcam222 said:

                                      Why on the earth would you change something that is working so well? I am finally getting used to the feeling of winning on more Sundays than we lose. Williams and Kitchens took a floundering team and made us damn, make that DAMN good. It would be literally insane to change that. 

                                      The team knows the D and O for god sake lets not do another install

                                      I’m not sure I agree with the damn good part.  We’ve beaten one team with a winning record and that was in October.  Last year everyone wanted Williams fired for playing Peppers 30 yards off the line and now he’s the savior.  The Bengal team that was beaten today was missing their starting QB, both WRs, both TEs, WIL LB and DB.  KC, Texans and Pittsburgh best is easily. I think a good offensive mind will understand what Baker can and can’t do and a good defensive mind will understand our concepts.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        Keep Williams as HC

                                        Keep Kitchens as OC

                                        FIRE ANUS

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                                          Keep Williams as HC

                                          Keep Kitchens as OC

                                          FIRE ANUS

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                                          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Keep Williams as HC

                                          Keep Kitchens as OC

                                          FIRE ANUS

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