who would be your choice?
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if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?
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My preference at this moment is to keep both. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I love Freddie but a new head coach will more than likely want his own guy and if he doesn't get it could possibly undermine an oc foisted upon him. See Jackson, Hue.
Second choice is Bruce Arians and keep Williams and Kitchens.
Third choice? I will be pissed off if there is a Changing of the Guard and even more pissed off if it's Jimmy Haslam that puts his foot down and makes any hire over dorsey's head.
WSS
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My preference at this moment is to keep both. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I love Freddie but a new head coach will more than likely want his own guy and if he doesn't get it could possibly undermine an oc foisted upon him. See Jackson, Hue.
Second choice is Bruce Arians and keep Williams and Kitchens.
Third choice? I will be pissed off if there is a Changing of the Guard and even more pissed off if it's Jimmy Haslam that puts his foot down and makes any hire over dorsey's head.
WSS
My preference at this moment is to keep both. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I love Freddie but a new head coach will more than likely want his own guy and if he doesn't get it could possibly undermine an oc foisted upon him. See Jackson, Hue.
Second choice is Bruce Arians and keep Williams and Kitchens.
Third choice? I will be pissed off if there is a Changing of the Guard and even more pissed off if it's Jimmy Haslam that puts his foot down and makes any hire over dorsey's head.
WSS
I think and hope Jimmy learned his lessons with Johnny Football and Huebatross to stay out of the way.
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Prime Rib is my choice. I will leave the choosing of the HC to the GM. Honestly...that is the most fair response I can give.
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Prime Rib is my choice. I will leave the choosing of the HC to the GM. Honestly...that is the most fair response I can give.
Prime Rib is my choice. I will leave the choosing of the HC to the GM. Honestly...that is the most fair response I can give.
Sylvestros in Painesville has some outstanding Prime Rib.. Well worth the trip...
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This organization has been so screwed up for so long, I'm terrified that they are going to make coaching changes that will take us backwards, again. New HC...wants his own assistants...wants his own players....wants to run a different offense....wants to run a different defense, etc. If it were my decision, I would bring everyone back except the special teams coach. Williams : HC.... I would hate to lose all the progress this team has made in the last few months.
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The team overall is responding very well to Williams and with Kitchens and Baker having their thing going on, you stand pat and pay the men
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If Williams is willing to go back to DC, then I would like to bring in Arians as HC. That's unlikely so I would just keep the staff in tact except for our ST coach.
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I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.
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if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?
if it came down to williams or kitchens for head coach who would you choose? or do you have another choice who is it?
If it was up to me it'd be Arians as HC, Kitchens as AHC/OC (so he doesn't leave) and Bowles as DC.
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I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.
Mike, I think that would clobber all the invested time and training that went into the drastic improvements finally making this fan base happy.
Not only that, if you want to change Baker Mayfield's mind about Cleveland being RIGHT this place is for him - firing Kichens would do that. The same would hold true for all the guys that love playing for Gregg Williams.
We FINALLY have a reason guys WANT to be in Cleveland as well as a recruiting attraction for FAs. The best way to kill all that is to fire the entire coaching staff. NO THANKS!
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As the reporter Andre Knott(I think that’s his name) was saying, this is going to be the most difficult offseason for Cleveland in a long time..
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I am expecting a new crew next year coaching.
Let’s hope you are wrong. It’s very obvious to me the impact coaching can have on a team. We went from crap to contender level play with only a change in coaching. We should have a full court press on retaining what’s working. With added talent and the current staff ( including current play installation) we are a 10 win team. New staff and we are a complete roll of the dice again. Screw the shiny new toy approach.
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Gregg Williams has a plethora of coaching experience as both a defensive coordinator and head coach.
Freddie Kitchens has his first job running an offense, an offense that is VASTLY improved.
IMO, it is a no brainer to go with Williams and let Kitchens further his experience. I do not see any team going after him based on 1/2 season running an offense. Kitchens has a lot of tools on offense he can work with and establish a pedigree for success. The best thing he could do is interview for the position, continue to build his offense, win this team a division title, and then see what is available.
Let us say he goes to Arizona. They have a rotten offense with a vastly declining Larry Fitzgerald. The tools he will be given are not as sharp as Cleveland and won't have the same successes he has had in Cleveland.
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Why would we even consider kitchens as HC? He's staying at OC no matter who the HC is next year
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Williams but I'm in the camp of new coaching staff next year
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