We Need To Keep Lamar Jackson In The Pocket
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We have gone away from black Tarkenton we are now onto black Tebow
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Sam Arnold?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
We have gone away from black Tarkenton we are now onto black Tebow
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
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Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
B: Start with Bernie Kosar.
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
B: Start with Bernie Kosar.
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Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
game plan ?
first:make the them play from behind I all ways have agreed to defer but not this sunday I believe kitchens should have a well thought out game plan for are first series
second : do are best to try to keep them in third and long cause lamar is not an accurate passer and I believe we can force him into turning the ball over
final score Browns 13 them 10
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
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So, this Sunday the Browns decide who gets the north title. I’m hoping for the Ohio sweep. The raisins back in the playoffs damaged, stools sit. Coach says this is our playoff game. Maybe not quite but I’ll say some playoff type experience should come with this win.
That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
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That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
" You play to win the mother fucking game"... Get out of here with lets lose because of the steelers playoff chance.. That loser mentality thinking...
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
I would say that Randall Cunningham came around much earlier than Kordell Stewart. And don't forget Doug Williams, who was mobile early in his career,, but not so much later when he played with the Redskins.
Oh...and don't forget Fritz Pollard: Black QB, Akron Pros, 1920 NFL Champions.
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Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
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It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
That's two in 45+ years (or 11 Olympics) = rare. Break that down with # of competitors and I'd bet > 3%.
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
A bit of an unfair argument for Tarkenton. Until he got TD, Elway had gone to a bunch of SB and got beat bad. All that shows is it takes a team, not just an individual great QB.
As for coaches turning kids into that, the sad fact of the matter is that is what is happening, and not just black kids. A lot of coaches now are running a spread, without any real concepts behind it, and taking their best athlete and making him the QB, whether that is where he should be or not. I don't think we should categorize that as just black kids, as sure that happens a lot, but there are certainly more country/rural area schools in the nation than city.
What is going to happen in the future is you will see less and less pocket passes, as a lot of coaches now think the best athlete being QB is more conducive to winning, not thinking about the future of these kids
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Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
A bit of an unfair argument for Tarkenton. Until he got TD, Elway had gone to a bunch of SB and got beat bad. All that shows is it takes a team, not just an individual great QB.
As for coaches turning kids into that, the sad fact of the matter is that is what is happening, and not just black kids. A lot of coaches now are running a spread, without any real concepts behind it, and taking their best athlete and making him the QB, whether that is where he should be or not. I don't think we should categorize that as just black kids, as sure that happens a lot, but there are certainly more country/rural area schools in the nation than city.
What is going to happen in the future is you will see less and less pocket passes, as a lot of coaches now think the best athlete being QB is more conducive to winning, not thinking about the future of these kids
A bit of an unfair argument for Tarkenton. Until he got TD, Elway had gone to a bunch of SB and got beat bad. All that shows is it takes a team, not just an individual great QB.
As for coaches turning kids into that, the sad fact of the matter is that is what is happening, and not just black kids. A lot of coaches now are running a spread, without any real concepts behind it, and taking their best athlete and making him the QB, whether that is where he should be or not. I don't think we should categorize that as just black kids, as sure that happens a lot, but there are certainly more country/rural area schools in the nation than city.
What is going to happen in the future is you will see less and less pocket passes, as a lot of coaches now think the best athlete being QB is more conducive to winning, not thinking about the future of these kids
My only exception to your clarification of having a " team" and comparing to Elway. Elway never had much of a team, Tarkenton did. Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Alan Page, Gene Washington, Chuck Foreman, Amad Rashad, Mick TInglehoff, Ed White, Sammy White. Fran had players around him. Didn't he also lose 6 NFL Championship games? What I remember about him is thatin big games, he really, really sucked badly. In Superbowl 9, he was so cockeyed it wasn't funny. Remember, his entire career he had the Purple People Eater defense. They held Bradshaw to nothing, and Fran scored even less.
I think putting him in the HOF is fucking ridiculous. He accumulated a shitload of stats that ended in a bunch of nothing for his team. I just don't have any respect for him as a QB. I think he was a pony pile of shit.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
That's two in 45+ years (or 11 Olympics) = rare. Break that down with # of competitors and I'd bet > 3%.
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A bit of an unfair argument for Tarkenton. Until he got TD, Elway had gone to a bunch of SB and got beat bad. All that shows is it takes a team, not just an individual great QB.
As for coaches turning kids into that, the sad fact of the matter is that is what is happening, and not just black kids. A lot of coaches now are running a spread, without any real concepts behind it, and taking their best athlete and making him the QB, whether that is where he should be or not. I don't think we should categorize that as just black kids, as sure that happens a lot, but there are certainly more country/rural area schools in the nation than city.
What is going to happen in the future is you will see less and less pocket passes, as a lot of coaches now think the best athlete being QB is more conducive to winning, not thinking about the future of these kids
My only exception to your clarification of having a " team" and comparing to Elway. Elway never had much of a team, Tarkenton did. Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Alan Page, Gene Washington, Chuck Foreman, Amad Rashad, Mick TInglehoff, Ed White, Sammy White. Fran had players around him. Didn't he also lose 6 NFL Championship games? What I remember about him is thatin big games, he really, really sucked badly. In Superbowl 9, he was so cockeyed it wasn't funny. Remember, his entire career he had the Purple People Eater defense. They held Bradshaw to nothing, and Fran scored even less.
I think putting him in the HOF is fucking ridiculous. He accumulated a shitload of stats that ended in a bunch of nothing for his team. I just don't have any respect for him as a QB. I think he was a pony pile of shit.
My only exception to your clarification of having a " team" and comparing to Elway. Elway never had much of a team, Tarkenton did. Carl Eller, Jim Marshall, Alan Page, Gene Washington, Chuck Foreman, Amad Rashad, Mick TInglehoff, Ed White, Sammy White. Fran had players around him. Didn't he also lose 6 NFL Championship games? What I remember about him is thatin big games, he really, really sucked badly. In Superbowl 9, he was so cockeyed it wasn't funny. Remember, his entire career he had the Purple People Eater defense. They held Bradshaw to nothing, and Fran scored even less.
I think putting him in the HOF is fucking ridiculous. He accumulated a shitload of stats that ended in a bunch of nothing for his team. I just don't have any respect for him as a QB. I think he was a pony pile of shit.
My only point was just saying someone lost a lot doesn't really tell the story, as others have done the same thing, or even take it a step further, I'm sure there are guys you would consider way better and was beating them to get there to lose
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This will be a difficult match-up for us.
Final game. Sad to see our season end. When was the last time we could say that?
This will be a difficult match-up for us.
Final game. Sad to see our season end. When was the last time we could say that?
But at least it’ll be a fun offseason. Then on to the playoffs
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