We Need To Keep Lamar Jackson In The Pocket
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We have gone away from black Tarkenton we are now onto black Tebow
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
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To be honest, Lamar Jackson doesn't scare me. What scares me is the Ravens' defense. The Ravens haven't been winning shootouts, they've been winning because their defense is putting the squadoosh down on fools.
True....which also means that the Browns defense has to step up. First game between them was 12-9 in OT. It would not surprise me if we have something similar.
True....which also means that the Browns defense has to step up. First game between them was 12-9 in OT. It would not surprise me if we have something similar.
Man, I hope both of you guys are right. We're going to need turnovers to win IMO, and we've had CHANCES lately, but we're not finishing the darn plays. We dropped the easiest INT ever when two players kind of fought over it, we forced a fumble but didn't have anyone around to jump on it, and Myles Garrett continues to get the award for "almost had a sack". Again, I'm not hating on Myles, but if the goal of the game was to get as CLOSE to the QB without actually bringing him down, he'd be the best of all time. I've never in my life seen a guy "almost get a sack" so many times in one season, and if Myles thought that DRISKELL was hard to bring down, then he's in for a treat this Sunday. Here's something else, and I could be wrong, so don't bite my head off, but going back to Texans game, I don't think we've recovered a single fumble that we've forced, and I can think of at least 5-6. When you play a running QB, the chance of fumbles goes up exponentially, especially if they run pitch or option plays. Additionally, Lamar is going to under-throw several passes, or over-throw a few, and we HAVE to snatch those. No more dropped INT's! (I'm talking to YOU Collins)
And you know what we REALLY NEED? How about a freaking defensive or special teams touchdown? How many teams in the league don't have one of those? I know WE don't, but I wonder how many others don't either. You would think that a team that did so well with turnovers would take at least ONE of them home, but you'd be wrong. Let's break that streak during the last game of the year.
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Teams that play us practice for "almost get a sack" Garrett. They must get the ball out within 2.5 seconds or less. They all have a short passing gameplan and prefer it because of what can happen if they try going with longer timed patterns too often. Add Josh Allen of Ky. to the mix and this can get to be really fun to see who gets there first. Ogunjobi is getting better and better at it the more games he gets under his belt.
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Teams that play us practice for "almost get a sack" Garrett. They must get the ball out within 2.5 seconds or less. They all have a short passing gameplan and prefer it because of what can happen if they try going with longer timed patterns too often. Add Josh Allen of Ky. to the mix and this can get to be really fun to see who gets there first. Ogunjobi is getting better and better at it the more games he gets under his belt.
Teams that play us practice for "almost get a sack" Garrett. They must get the ball out within 2.5 seconds or less. They all have a short passing gameplan and prefer it because of what can happen if they try going with longer timed patterns too often. Add Josh Allen of Ky. to the mix and this can get to be really fun to see who gets there first. Ogunjobi is getting better and better at it the more games he gets under his belt.
Josh Allen, OLB of Kentucky is definitely an interesting prospect to imagine plugging into our defense.
We might have played ourselves out of being able to draft him, though.
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Lamar can pass much better than Tebow could...
Run better too
Yeah, Ghoolie's Black Tarkenton is a better fit. Tebow was a linebacker who thought he was a quarterback.
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We have gone away from black Tarkenton we are now onto black Tebow
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Sam Arnold?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
We have gone away from black Tarkenton we are now onto black Tebow
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
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Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
B: Start with Bernie Kosar.
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
B: Start with Bernie Kosar.
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Well, my term Black Tarkenton is not a racist slur, nor a hidden thought of what I think of black QBs. I loved Moon and McNair, and am impressed with Mahomes and Sam Arnold.
The term replies to a black kid who had his speed exploited in youth football, and was never taught like white kids are, to pass first.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
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game plan ?
first:make the them play from behind I all ways have agreed to defer but not this sunday I believe kitchens should have a well thought out game plan for are first series
second : do are best to try to keep them in third and long cause lamar is not an accurate passer and I believe we can force him into turning the ball over
final score Browns 13 them 10
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
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So, this Sunday the Browns decide who gets the north title. I’m hoping for the Ohio sweep. The raisins back in the playoffs damaged, stools sit. Coach says this is our playoff game. Maybe not quite but I’ll say some playoff type experience should come with this win.
That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
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That would be fresh. So, what would that make it: Ratrapers 9-7; Spermsuckers 8-7-1; Browns 8-7-1; (B)itchy Pussies 7-9.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
Best case Scenario Gip, that would be my first choice. However if the Bengals lose the Steelers, I'd almost want to lose to the Ravens (but make the score close). Like I've said many times, my wife is a Steelers' fan and I've been living with this for many years. Any to keep the Steelers out of the playoffs and I'm in.
" You play to win the mother fucking game"... Get out of here with lets lose because of the steelers playoff chance.. That loser mentality thinking...
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A. Sam (D)Arnold is white.
B. Who are some White Byron Leftwiches.....he was taught to pass first, as he had no speed whatsoever.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
I don't think that ethnicity lends any extra probability or unlikelihood of becoming a great or a lousy QB. Your example of Leftwich expands this conversation, for you are correct, he is not a run-first, (black Tarkenton) are I lament. I do maintain that at some early level, whether it is peepee or High School, coaches are prone to harvesting black kids who are fleet of foot and who shoe some ball-throwing ability and creating the running QB that we see so much now in college.
I believe that Kordell Stewart was the pioneered role-model for this type of QB. Clearly, the imagined upsides are mind-boggling. The true cyborg QB who can throw 80 yards or run 80 yards makes heads spin. The ratio of run first QBs is inarguably heavily weighted in the ration of Blacks versus Whites. Let's interject Leftwich here. As you pointed out, he is not really fleet of foot, but IS a pocket passer. But as far as blacks go, you must admit, he is not the norm. However, white QBs who ARE pocket passers and not fleet of foot are pretty common.
So what does that mean? That all blacks are fast and inaccurate passers, and whites are slow and more accurate? Nope. I believe it means coaches, the system, does not assess black QBs the same as they do whites. I think it is racism, or at least a different light bulb that goes off in a coaches head when he sees a Kordell Stewart type kid.
I honestly believe that the slow-footed, black Kosar type kid, the Leftwich type black player seldom gets picked to play QB.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
I would say that Randall Cunningham came around much earlier than Kordell Stewart. And don't forget Doug Williams, who was mobile early in his career,, but not so much later when he played with the Redskins.
Oh...and don't forget Fritz Pollard: Black QB, Akron Pros, 1920 NFL Champions.
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Gips, my old pal, as you and I head into a New Year, I am nudging you to get a little better grip on my tongue-in-cheek humor. Calling Sam D'Arnold black was a joke about color not meaning crap as far as a man's value. black, white, we are all loved equally by the one who counts.
So, my phrase, "Black Tarkenton" strike some as being racist, it is not, and I am not. I do however think that run-first QBs are ALL shit QBs. Not one of them has ever held up through the playoffs and won a SB. Nor do I believe will one ever. The fact that run-first QBs seem to all be black doesn't make me racist. I hate the run-first QB because of the implications and shortcomings. It isn't my fault that these primarily tend to be blacks. Also FWIW, I despised Tarkenton and think he is the model of what a QB should NOT be. The fucking guy was in 4 Superbowls, and he got his ass kicked in all 4. Just like the Black Tarkentons, he put up all kinds of numbers, and created excitement. But, when it counted, like all run-first QBs, he turned to shit.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
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It's just the way it is. The black guys in general are faster. I don't remember a white guy ever running in the 100 in the Olympics. If one has, it's mighty rare.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
Valery Borzov, USSR 1972 Olympics, 100 meter Winner:
Alan Wells, Great Britain, 1980 Olympics 100 meter winner
Of course, given the times....these both may have been heavily steroid aided victories.
That's two in 45+ years (or 11 Olympics) = rare. Break that down with # of competitors and I'd bet > 3%.
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