We Need To Keep Lamar Jackson In The Pocket
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Keeping Lamar in the pocket is the exact way to destroy the Browns tomorrow.
Keeping Lamar in the pocket is the same Marty-ball that birthed " THE DRIVE"
Strategies to keep Lamar in the pocket are based on the fear of seeing him make some big plays, maybe big runs. Granted, in a close game, no matter what the D, an athletic QB like Jackson can indeed hurt you with a big play. So, what is your answer to that? Play him soft, let the opposing offense move the ball up and down the field all day long, wear out your defense, and enjoy yet ANOTHER heartbreak of watching your team fall apart in the 4th quarter?
It amazes me that decade-after-decade Browns fans suffer the consequences of this fucked up, cowardly "contain him" football, but yet come to the pregame, over-and-over-and-over asking for more of the same................ Contain Elway......Contain Ben.........Contain Kordell (49 -0 ring a bell?) Every time the Browns "contain" a mobile QB they go home ass fucked. THat so few here get this, and call for even MORE MORE MORE MORE self ass-fucking truly is ridiculous.
The way you beat black Tarkenton is to make him use his weakest skills............
Decision making, accuracy, patience and vision.
Let the fucker run. Let him take off. The more he runs, the more likely he is to fuck up or get fucked up. This piece of shit isn't Marino, Elway or Manning. Why give him all day to pass? Because you are afraid he will run? WTF is wrong with you people?
If Williams tries to "contain" Jackson, you can all do yourselves a favor and turn the game off because our defense will be destroyed.
Contain = all day to pass = DB running around for 10 seconds each and every pass play = WRs coming wide open with all day to run around.
BLITZ................... kill the fucking QB.
HERE IS THE REALITY OF FOOBALL. HERE IS THE GREG WILLIAMS I WANT TO SEE. Fuck you all and your pussy, cowardly, faggot, containment football.
https://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2017/01/the_violent_controversial_past.html
Does this sound like a "containment" Coach? You want containment? Call this # 1 - 800 - PUSSIES
I want Williams ball. Go beat the fuck out of Black Tarkenton. Let the dumb Forrest Gump sonofabitch run all he wants.
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Myles Garrett continues to get the award for "almost had a sack". Again, I'm not hating on Myles, but if the goal of the game was to get as CLOSE to the QB without actually bringing him down, he'd be the best of all time. I've never in my life seen a guy "almost get a sack" so many times in one season,
I took a lot of heat for labeling him ZUMBA INSTRUCTOR, but if we are being honest, the moniker fits him very, very well. Much of my original contempt for him had to do with his public cock-sucking of Jerry Jones. But let's be realistic about him.
I blasted, and CONTINUE to blast those who create these MEANINGLESS stats like "QB hurries"...even IF it were true, what QB DOESN'T get pressure, or hurried? Can anyone show stats for the end result of this moronic " hurrying"? Who is inducted to the HOF based on hurrying the QB?
Myles is very fast and very athletic. However, he is an annoyance, not a disrupter. He will get his share of athletic sacks, but he is not a monster of the midway. Offensive Line schemes have effectively minimized Garrett's impact. Surely, you cannot say that in any one game he was a major factor in destroying a defense. Peppers and Ogbah have far more overall impact on the opposition than Garrett.
For Garrett to be effective the Browns must add a Brenston Buckner type bull.
Myles is not Watt. He isn't Mean Joe, Eller or anything close. I still say he was a waste of a #1 #1. He is okay, but that's all he is, okay. When you have to make up a new statistic called " Almost Got to the QB", it is pretty clear that all I have said about him is true.
I took a lot of heat for labeling him ZUMBA INSTRUCTOR, but if we are being honest, the moniker fits him very, very well. Much of my original contempt for him had to do with his public cock-sucking of Jerry Jones. But let's be realistic about him.
I blasted, and CONTINUE to blast those who create these MEANINGLESS stats like "QB hurries"...even IF it were true, what QB DOESN'T get pressure, or hurried? Can anyone show stats for the end result of this moronic " hurrying"? Who is inducted to the HOF based on hurrying the QB?
Myles is very fast and very athletic. However, he is an annoyance, not a disrupter. He will get his share of athletic sacks, but he is not a monster of the midway. Offensive Line schemes have effectively minimized Garrett's impact. Surely, you cannot say that in any one game he was a major factor in destroying a defense. Peppers and Ogbah have far more overall impact on the opposition than Garrett.
For Garrett to be effective the Browns must add a Brenston Buckner type bull.
Myles is not Watt. He isn't Mean Joe, Eller or anything close. I still say he was a waste of a #1 #1. He is okay, but that's all he is, okay. When you have to make up a new statistic called " Almost Got to the QB", it is pretty clear that all I have said about him is true.
Almost, sigh.. or is it because of rule changes that put skirts on QBs?
With listening to BK discuss current NFL defensive strategyy I wonder if almost is about as good as it’ll get. You’re not going to stop the other team from scoring. You need to run a ball hawking turnover oriented defense now. In the playoffs now, we got some high scoring Os facing other high powered offenses. Getting the ball a time or two more than the opponent is often the difference. And as it’s always been, turnovers are the biggest stat when it comes to wins and losses. Your D steals the ball more often than them, you win. Myles is quick off the line and a few of those almosts did result in a turnover
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Road Dawgs Rule
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OK everyone just for the sake of transparency I am a Ravens fan. Yes, I live here in Purple and Black territory. I didnt come here to talk smack or to have you talk smack to me....you can if you would like but dont expect me to converse. The reason I am here is to have some fun a back and forth with Browns fans. Thought I could give you guys some insight. WHat I have seen here was many of you talking about how you might stop Lamar Jackson. Very few talk about Baltimore's D. Some have but not many, that is going to be the Browns biggest problem. WHat you guys dont understand is that Baltimore has no problem winning the game 9-3. It's a very fast defense, they swarm to the ball. They tackle very well. They are playing their best football of the season. This Ravens team is not the same team you guys saw earlier in the year. They went to over time with KC and manhandled the Chargers. Does Cleveland have a punchers chance? Absolutely......but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this.......That huge chip on his shoulder? It's getting knocked off this SUnday.
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OK everyone just for the sake of transparency I am a Ravens fan. Yes, I live here in Purple and Black territory. I didnt come here to talk smack or to have you talk smack to me....you can if you would like but dont expect me to converse. The reason I am here is to have some fun a back and forth with Browns fans. Thought I could give you guys some insight. WHat I have seen here was many of you talking about how you might stop Lamar Jackson. Very few talk about Baltimore's D. Some have but not many, that is going to be the Browns biggest problem. WHat you guys dont understand is that Baltimore has no problem winning the game 9-3. It's a very fast defense, they swarm to the ball. They tackle very well. They are playing their best football of the season. This Ravens team is not the same team you guys saw earlier in the year. They went to over time with KC and manhandled the Chargers. Does Cleveland have a punchers chance? Absolutely......but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this.......That huge chip on his shoulder? It's getting knocked off this SUnday.
OK everyone just for the sake of transparency I am a Ravens fan. Yes, I live here in Purple and Black territory. I didnt come here to talk smack or to have you talk smack to me....you can if you would like but dont expect me to converse. The reason I am here is to have some fun a back and forth with Browns fans. Thought I could give you guys some insight. WHat I have seen here was many of you talking about how you might stop Lamar Jackson. Very few talk about Baltimore's D. Some have but not many, that is going to be the Browns biggest problem. WHat you guys dont understand is that Baltimore has no problem winning the game 9-3. It's a very fast defense, they swarm to the ball. They tackle very well. They are playing their best football of the season. This Ravens team is not the same team you guys saw earlier in the year. They went to over time with KC and manhandled the Chargers. Does Cleveland have a punchers chance? Absolutely......but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this.......That huge chip on his shoulder? It's getting knocked off this SUnday.
Hey bro, it is really nice to see a rival's fan come in to talk sensibly about football. Some here just don't have the ability to enjoy friendly banter and see the good and bad in each other's team. You get it, you understand, enjoy the ride? Bravo for you.
So, to continue on with the gentlemanly conversation you initiated, I would like to throw my two sents in.
Fuck you. Fuck the Ravens. Fuck Joe Fucco, and Fuck your defense. YOU aren't the same team? Sure you are. You dickheads aren't going anywhere. Your defense blows. Your women blow and your stadium blows. Your history blows and so does your choking head coach.
Baker Mayfield will expose your defense for the shit pile it is. You homosexuals lost to the Bengals and struggled with them the second time. You lost to us when we were cursed with Hue Jackson.
My shit looks like your logo.
By the way, please visit again, soon
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OK everyone just for the sake of transparency I am a Ravens fan. Yes, I live here in Purple and Black territory. I didnt come here to talk smack or to have you talk smack to me....you can if you would like but dont expect me to converse. The reason I am here is to have some fun a back and forth with Browns fans. Thought I could give you guys some insight. WHat I have seen here was many of you talking about how you might stop Lamar Jackson. Very few talk about Baltimore's D. Some have but not many, that is going to be the Browns biggest problem. WHat you guys dont understand is that Baltimore has no problem winning the game 9-3. It's a very fast defense, they swarm to the ball. They tackle very well. They are playing their best football of the season. This Ravens team is not the same team you guys saw earlier in the year. They went to over time with KC and manhandled the Chargers. Does Cleveland have a punchers chance? Absolutely......but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this.......That huge chip on his shoulder? It's getting knocked off this SUnday.
Hey bro, it is really nice to see a rival's fan come in to talk sensibly about football. Some here just don't have the ability to enjoy friendly banter and see the good and bad in each other's team. You get it, you understand, enjoy the ride? Bravo for you.
So, to continue on with the gentlemanly conversation you initiated, I would like to throw my two sents in.
Fuck you. Fuck the Ravens. Fuck Joe Fucco, and Fuck your defense. YOU aren't the same team? Sure you are. You dickheads aren't going anywhere. Your defense blows. Your women blow and your stadium blows. Your history blows and so does your choking head coach.
Baker Mayfield will expose your defense for the shit pile it is. You homosexuals lost to the Bengals and struggled with them the second time. You lost to us when we were cursed with Hue Jackson.
My shit looks like your logo.
By the way, please visit again, soon
Hey bro, it is really nice to see a rival's fan come in to talk sensibly about football. Some here just don't have the ability to enjoy friendly banter and see the good and bad in each other's team. You get it, you understand, enjoy the ride? Bravo for you.
So, to continue on with the gentlemanly conversation you initiated, I would like to throw my two sents in.
Fuck you. Fuck the Ravens. Fuck Joe Fucco, and Fuck your defense. YOU aren't the same team? Sure you are. You dickheads aren't going anywhere. Your defense blows. Your women blow and your stadium blows. Your history blows and so does your choking head coach.
Baker Mayfield will expose your defense for the shit pile it is. You homosexuals lost to the Bengals and struggled with them the second time. You lost to us what we were cursed with Hue Jackson.
My shit looks like your logo.
By the way, please visit again, soon
So let me get this straight....you don't like the Ravens? At least you made me laugh. Nice job.
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Hey bro, it is really nice to see a rival's fan come in to talk sensibly about football. Some here just don't have the ability to enjoy friendly banter and see the good and bad in each other's team. You get it, you understand, enjoy the ride? Bravo for you.
So, to continue on with the gentlemanly conversation you initiated, I would like to throw my two sents in.
Fuck you. Fuck the Ravens. Fuck Joe Fucco, and Fuck your defense. YOU aren't the same team? Sure you are. You dickheads aren't going anywhere. Your defense blows. Your women blow and your stadium blows. Your history blows and so does your choking head coach.
Baker Mayfield will expose your defense for the shit pile it is. You homosexuals lost to the Bengals and struggled with them the second time. You lost to us what we were cursed with Hue Jackson.
My shit looks like your logo.
By the way, please visit again, soon
So let me get this straight....you don't like the Ravens? At least you made me laugh. Nice job.
So let me get this straight....you don't like the Ravens? At least you made me laugh. Nice job.
I'm glad to amuse you. I have no problem with you guys, bro. It's just football. Hats off to you for being able to wade through the humor. People get too worked up about this shit. This game, as you know, is the playoffs for us. We haven't had a lot to cheer about, ya know?
So, yeah, fuck you..... fuck me, too. Fuck all of us.
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So let me get this straight....you don't like the Ravens? At least you made me laugh. Nice job.
I'm glad to amuse you. I have no problem with you guys, bro. It's just football. Hats off to you for being able to wade through the humor. People get too worked up about this shit. This game, as you know, is the playoffs for us. We haven't had a lot to cheer about, ya know?
So, yeah, fuck you..... fuck me, too. Fuck all of us.
I'm glad to amuse you. I have no problem with you guys, bro. It's just football. Hats off to you for being able to wade through the humor. People get too worked up about this shit. This game, as you know, is the playoffs for us. We haven't had a lot to cheer about, ya know?
So, yeah, fuck you..... fuck me, too. Fuck all of us.
It's all good, like you said it isnt life and death. It's the same in every city, you have those who live and die with their teams. It's a game in the end and the players couldnt give a ratbirds ass about any of us. I have done this a few times ( going in to the hornets nest ). I love it. I like chatting with the other teams fans. I want to know what they think.....how they feel. With the history of these two teams I am extremely interested. I was in Cleveland this past August and thought it actually was a really nice city.
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fuck the ravens fuck baltimore the std capitol of the world
I wouldn’t fuck them then. Lots of mercury poisoning goes on there too. Daddy butt fucked mommy and a raisinette results
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Seeing that Tarkenton only played in three super Bowls I question your credibility on this. Joe Kapp was the quarterback for one of those Viking losses
And if you followed my posts you will see that I corrected that BEFORE you did. HOWEVER....... in THREE SUPERBOWLS................. the run-first QB LOST ALL THREE...........with a lot of great players around him (Purple People Eater defense), AND PUT UP A WHOPPING 27 POINTS in THREE GAMES.
Fran Tarkenton was the Putney Swope of NFL QBs. He was a piece of shit.
And if you followed my posts you will see that I corrected that BEFORE you did. HOWEVER....... in THREE SUPERBOWLS................. the run-first QB LOST ALL THREE...........with a lot of great players around him (Purple People Eater defense), AND PUT UP A WHOPPING 27 POINTS in THREE GAMES.
Fran Tarkenton was the Putney Swope of NFL QBs. He was a piece of shit.
Meh ok
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OK everyone just for the sake of transparency I am a Ravens fan. Yes, I live here in Purple and Black territory. I didnt come here to talk smack or to have you talk smack to me....you can if you would like but dont expect me to converse. The reason I am here is to have some fun a back and forth with Browns fans. Thought I could give you guys some insight. WHat I have seen here was many of you talking about how you might stop Lamar Jackson. Very few talk about Baltimore's D. Some have but not many, that is going to be the Browns biggest problem. WHat you guys dont understand is that Baltimore has no problem winning the game 9-3. It's a very fast defense, they swarm to the ball. They tackle very well. They are playing their best football of the season. This Ravens team is not the same team you guys saw earlier in the year. They went to over time with KC and manhandled the Chargers. Does Cleveland have a punchers chance? Absolutely......but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this.......That huge chip on his shoulder? It's getting knocked off this SUnday.
but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this......
Except when we played the chargers and Texans and the Steelers twice, you mean?
Baltimore's defense hasn't faced anyone with Mayfield's ability to both extend plays and throw with accuracy to any WR being covered by someone with their back turned. Well, aside from KC, who you also lost to. Mahomes wasn't as good as Mayfield his first season..
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I'm glad to amuse you. I have no problem with you guys, bro. It's just football. Hats off to you for being able to wade through the humor. People get too worked up about this shit. This game, as you know, is the playoffs for us. We haven't had a lot to cheer about, ya know?
So, yeah, fuck you..... fuck me, too. Fuck all of us.
It's all good, like you said it isnt life and death. It's the same in every city, you have those who live and die with their teams. It's a game in the end and the players couldnt give a ratbirds ass about any of us. I have done this a few times ( going in to the hornets nest ). I love it. I like chatting with the other teams fans. I want to know what they think.....how they feel. With the history of these two teams I am extremely interested. I was in Cleveland this past August and thought it actually was a really nice city.
It's all good, like you said it isnt life and death. It's the same in every city, you have those who live and die with their teams. It's a game in the end and the players couldnt give a ratbirds ass about any of us. I have done this a few times ( going in to the hornets nest ). I love it. I like chatting with the other teams fans. I want to know what they think.....how they feel. With the history of these two teams I am extremely interested. I was in Cleveland this past August and thought it actually was a really nice city.
I have taken a lot of heat for saying the Ravens are the real Browns. In reality, I just feel that there is indeed a historical connection. I am the same way with the Bengals being Paul Browns team. I also don't hate the Steelers but 2x per year, as I have a lot of friends, family and my career connected to the area.
Football day I get nasty....in words, not deeds.
Modell is common to us both, and I consider him as part of my own football culture. I hate what happened, but people don't always do what we want.
I am glad you guys love your team.
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but Mayfeild has not seen a defense like this......
Except when we played the chargers and Texans and the Steelers twice, you mean?
Baltimore's defense hasn't faced anyone with Mayfield's ability to both extend plays and throw with accuracy to any WR being covered by someone with their back turned. Well, aside from KC, who you also lost to. Mahomes wasn't as good as Mayfield his first season..
Except when we played the chargers and Texans and the Steelers twice, you mean?
There is only one #1.......Steelers and Texans are in the top ten I will give you that. I am telling you this defense is playing their best football right now. The steelers? Have you seen them lately? They have suffered a late season crash. They are hanging on life support. They lost to Oakland for goodness sake.
I havnt watched enough of the Texans to give an opinion. Do you really think this Ravens team is the same team you played the last time? If you do you will be surprised.
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It's all good, like you said it isnt life and death. It's the same in every city, you have those who live and die with their teams. It's a game in the end and the players couldnt give a ratbirds ass about any of us. I have done this a few times ( going in to the hornets nest ). I love it. I like chatting with the other teams fans. I want to know what they think.....how they feel. With the history of these two teams I am extremely interested. I was in Cleveland this past August and thought it actually was a really nice city.
I have taken a lot of heat for saying the Ravens are the real Browns. In reality, I just feel that there is indeed a historical connection. I am the same way with the Bengals being Paul Browns team. I also don't hate the Steelers but 2x per year, as I have a lot of friends, family and my career connected to the area.
Football day I get nasty....in words, not deeds.
Modell is common to us both, and I consider him as part of my own football culture. I hate what happened, but people don't always do what we want.
I am glad you guys love your team.
I have taken a lot of heat for saying the Ravens are the real Browns. In reality, I just feel that there is indeed a historical connection. I am the same way with the Bengals being Paul Browns team. I also don't hate the Steelers but 2x per year, as I have a lot of friends, family and my career connected to the area.
Football day I get nasty....in words, not deeds.
Modell is common to us both, and I consider him as part of my own football culture. I hate what happened, but people don't always do what we want.
I am glad you guys love your team.
Really? I never understood this. You got to keep the history....the colors.....the name. What did Cleveland actually lose? Yes a few years of football but Modell and the Browns wouldn't have had the same team as the 96 Ravens or any other Ravens. You could say 100% it would have been the same. Modell got a butt load of cash for coming to Baltimore. If you were in his shoes you may have as well. I actually know how you feel more than you think. My first name is John, I am named after John Unitas.....I swear on my mothers grave that is the absolute truth. I was born on a very significant day in John Unitas's career. The Baltimore Colts were ripped from this community and we do know how it feels. As far as what happened in Cleveland and Baltimore I think were two different scenarios.......the players always change......it is laundry we root for.....just jersey's. Cleveland was able to keep their jerseys.
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Except when we played the chargers and Texans and the Steelers twice, you mean?
There is only one #1.......Steelers and Texans are in the top ten I will give you that. I am telling you this defense is playing their best football right now. The steelers? Have you seen them lately? They have suffered a late season crash. They are hanging on life support. They lost to Oakland for goodness sake.
I havnt watched enough of the Texans to give an opinion. Do you really think this Ravens team is the same team you played the last time? If you do you will be surprised.
There is only one #1.......Steelers and Texans are in the top ten I will give you that. I am telling you this defense is playing their best football right now. The steelers? Have you seen them lately? They have suffered a late season crash. They are hanging on life support. They lost to Oakland for goodness sake.
I havnt watched enough of the Texans to give an opinion. Do you really think this Ravens team is the same team you played the last time? If you do you will be surprised.
It is the same team. Are they playing at a different level? Perhaps. Realistically neither you or anyone else gave us a shot at beating them the first time in Cleveland but we did. It is really quite simple, if we can contain Lamar we win. Without him running the ball you are lucky to score any points.
By the way same question back at you, Do you think this is the same team you played earlier this year? the answer is HELL NO, better coached and kicking a$$
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I have taken a lot of heat for saying the Ravens are the real Browns. In reality, I just feel that there is indeed a historical connection. I am the same way with the Bengals being Paul Browns team. I also don't hate the Steelers but 2x per year, as I have a lot of friends, family and my career connected to the area.
Football day I get nasty....in words, not deeds.
Modell is common to us both, and I consider him as part of my own football culture. I hate what happened, but people don't always do what we want.
I am glad you guys love your team.
Really? I never understood this. You got to keep the history....the colors.....the name. What did Cleveland actually lose? Yes a few years of football but Modell and the Browns wouldn't have had the same team as the 96 Ravens or any other Ravens. You could say 100% it would have been the same. Modell got a butt load of cash for coming to Baltimore. If you were in his shoes you may have as well. I actually know how you feel more than you think. My first name is John, I am named after John Unitas.....I swear on my mothers grave that is the absolute truth. I was born on a very significant day in John Unitas's career. The Baltimore Colts were ripped from this community and we do know how it feels. As far as what happened in Cleveland and Baltimore I think were two different scenarios.......the players always change......it is laundry we root for.....just jersey's. Cleveland was able to keep their jerseys.
Really? I never understood this. You got to keep the history....the colors.....the name. What did Cleveland actually lose? Yes a few years of football but Modell and the Browns wouldn't have had the same team as the 96 Ravens or any other Ravens. You could say 100% it would have been the same. Modell got a butt load of cash for coming to Baltimore. If you were in his shoes you may have as well. I actually know how you feel more than you think. My first name is John, I am named after John Unitas.....I swear on my mothers grave that is the absolute truth. I was born on a very significant day in John Unitas's career. The Baltimore Colts were ripped from this community and we do know how it feels. As far as what happened in Cleveland and Baltimore I think were two different scenarios.......the players always change......it is laundry we root for.....just jersey's. Cleveland was able to keep their jerseys.
But the fan abuse ar t dished out on us still gets his grave rightly pissed on
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There is only one #1.......Steelers and Texans are in the top ten I will give you that. I am telling you this defense is playing their best football right now. The steelers? Have you seen them lately? They have suffered a late season crash. They are hanging on life support. They lost to Oakland for goodness sake.
I havnt watched enough of the Texans to give an opinion. Do you really think this Ravens team is the same team you played the last time? If you do you will be surprised.
It is the same team. Are they playing at a different level? Perhaps. Realistically neither you or anyone else gave us a shot at beating them the first time in Cleveland but we did. It is really quite simple, if we can contain Lamar we win. Without him running the ball you are lucky to score any points.
By the way same question back at you, Do you think this is the same team you played earlier this year? the answer is HELL NO, better coached and kicking a$$
It is the same team. Are they playing at a different level? Perhaps. Realistically neither you or anyone else gave us a shot at beating them the first time in Cleveland but we did. It is really quite simple, if we can contain Lamar we win. Without him running the ball you are lucky to score any points.
By the way same question back at you, Do you think this is the same team you played earlier this year? the answer is HELL NO, better coached and kicking a$$
I agree the Browns are not. But the wins have come from sub 500 teams. The same certianally can not be said about the Ravens. You are right we can't predict what will truly happen tomorrow, that is why we play the game. The Ravens are playing at home, for the division title, the #4 seed and possible #2 seed, the entire season or go home.....a one and done scenario. Sorry I guess you can say I am partial, but statistically over all the Ravens are better. The defense is way better, the coaching is better, These are facts not a opinion based on emotions. I say Good luck we will find out in about 24 hours.
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Really? I never understood this. You got to keep the history....the colors.....the name. What did Cleveland actually lose? Yes a few years of football but Modell and the Browns wouldn't have had the same team as the 96 Ravens or any other Ravens. You could say 100% it would have been the same. Modell got a butt load of cash for coming to Baltimore. If you were in his shoes you may have as well. I actually know how you feel more than you think. My first name is John, I am named after John Unitas.....I swear on my mothers grave that is the absolute truth. I was born on a very significant day in John Unitas's career. The Baltimore Colts were ripped from this community and we do know how it feels. As far as what happened in Cleveland and Baltimore I think were two different scenarios.......the players always change......it is laundry we root for.....just jersey's. Cleveland was able to keep their jerseys.
But the fan abuse ar t dished out on us still gets his grave rightly pissed on
But the fan abuse ar t dished out on us still gets his grave rightly pissed on
Not sure what the truth is, I am sure there is another side of the story. But the story here is that Art had no choice.....He asked for another stadium and the city basically told him to go fuck himself. That te city paid for Jacobs and the R&R HOF and told Art No. Art was on the expansion committee and saw what a sweetheart deal Baltimore was offerring the NFL expansion committee. After the NFL went to Jacksonville and Carolina Art took the deal. Art was broke ass, he needed money. He took the deal, for him and his family it set them up for life. He came away with hundreds of millions of dollars and than sold the team with zero debt and made hundreds of million more.
Since the team came back the Browns have had bad ownership, bad GM and bad coaching. Cleveland has had more first round picks in the time they have returned than any other team. Yet have been just flat out bad year after year. Now you guys have turned the corner....Finally getting a franchise QB. Got a great running back in Chubb and you just maybe have finally found a coach.
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But the fan abuse ar t dished out on us still gets his grave rightly pissed on
Not sure what the truth is, I am sure there is another side of the story. But the story here is that Art had no choice.....He asked for another stadium and the city basically told him to go fuck himself. That te city paid for Jacobs and the R&R HOF and told Art No. Art was on the expansion committee and saw what a sweetheart deal Baltimore was offerring the NFL expansion committee. After the NFL went to Jacksonville and Carolina Art took the deal. Art was broke ass, he needed money. He took the deal, for him and his family it set them up for life. He came away with hundreds of millions of dollars and than sold the team with zero debt and made hundreds of million more.
Since the team came back the Browns have had bad ownership, bad GM and bad coaching. Cleveland has had more first round picks in the time they have returned than any other team. Yet have been just flat out bad year after year. Now you guys have turned the corner....Finally getting a franchise QB. Got a great running back in Chubb and you just maybe have finally found a coach.
Not sure what the truth is, I am sure there is another side of the story. But the story here is that Art had no choice.....He asked for another stadium and the city basically told him to go fuck himself. That te city paid for Jacobs and the R&R HOF and told Art No. Art was on the expansion committee and saw what a sweetheart deal Baltimore was offerring the NFL expansion committee. After the NFL went to Jacksonville and Carolina Art took the deal. Art was broke ass, he needed money. He took the deal, for him and his family it set them up for life. He came away with hundreds of millions of dollars and than sold the team with zero debt and made hundreds of million more.
Since the team came back the Browns have had bad ownership, bad GM and bad coaching. Cleveland has had more first round picks in the time they have returned than any other team. Yet have been just flat out bad year after year. Now you guys have turned the corner....Finally getting a franchise QB. Got a great running back in Chubb and you just maybe have finally found a coach.
Not sure of the story and yet on google. Brilliant
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