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  • nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    I don't want McCarthy.. I just don't see Baker as a WCO QB.. Roll with Kitchens.. Hes done plenty right by Baker...Having McCarthy's bland personality on the sidelines is counter productive to Bakers fire and passion... It just doesn't mesh..

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      i think it would be a horrible hire and think it would piss mayfield off

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        I don't want McCarthy.. I just don't see Baker as a WCO QB.. Roll with Kitchens.. Hes done plenty right by Baker...Having McCarthy's bland personality on the sidelines is counter productive to Bakers fire and passion... It just doesn't mesh..

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        @nickers said:

        I don't want McCarthy.. I just don't see Baker as a WCO QB.. Roll with Kitchens.. Hes done plenty right by Baker...Having McCarthy's bland personality on the sidelines is counter productive to Bakers fire and passion... It just doesn't mesh..

        Williams since he's taken over as HC has been about as passive and bland as anyone. I remember in preseason and the beginning of the season he was all fired up on the sidelines. He just might not have the right personality to be HC. 

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

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            In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

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            Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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            @clevfan4life said:

            In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

            He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

            The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

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              @clevfan4life said:

              In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

              He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

              The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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              @mr.-make-believe said:

              He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

              The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

              I honestly don't have much of a strong opinion. I'll go with what Dorsey says on this one. And my previous comment was tongue in cheek, there are definitely moves Dorsey has made that I didn't agree with at the time and the season has somewhat bore out my criticisms. Offensively tho, hard to argue with the mans moves. We haven't had this kind of offense in decades. So if he thinks McCarthy will be good for Baker...then fine. 

              Personally I wouldn't mind tho seeing a defensively minded coach come in and keep the OC as is...cause that's clearly working. But if no moves are made, im fine with that too. 

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                @mr.-make-believe said:

                He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

                The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

                I honestly don't have much of a strong opinion. I'll go with what Dorsey says on this one. And my previous comment was tongue in cheek, there are definitely moves Dorsey has made that I didn't agree with at the time and the season has somewhat bore out my criticisms. Offensively tho, hard to argue with the mans moves. We haven't had this kind of offense in decades. So if he thinks McCarthy will be good for Baker...then fine. 

                Personally I wouldn't mind tho seeing a defensively minded coach come in and keep the OC as is...cause that's clearly working. But if no moves are made, im fine with that too. 

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                @clevfan4life said:

                I honestly don't have much of a strong opinion. I'll go with what Dorsey says on this one. And my previous comment was tongue in cheek, there are definitely moves Dorsey has made that I didn't agree with at the time and the season has somewhat bore out my criticisms. Offensively tho, hard to argue with the mans moves. We haven't had this kind of offense in decades. So if he thinks McCarthy will be good for Baker...then fine. 

                Personally I wouldn't mind tho seeing a defensively minded coach come in and keep the OC as is...cause that's clearly working. But if no moves are made, im fine with that too. 

                But as a rule head coaches don't want to use whatever was there when they get to a new team. They want their own people, they want to break things down and build them again in their own image. Which we don't need to do especially with the guy is used to working with an excellent quarterback but from a completely different mold from our franchise QB.

                So we get another disappointing year as this guy tries to hammer Baker Mayfield into an Aaron Rodgers mold. Or grudgingly keeps Freddie kitchens and micromanagers him micromanages him into failure.

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                  Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                  Only Dorsey knows...We'll see soon enough.

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                     McCarthy had a premiere QB and couldn’t find his way to the playoffs . His approach is no longer working 

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

                      He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

                      The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

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                      CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                      @mr.-make-believe said:

                      He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

                      The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

                      No, he let Hue bring in Haley. He was giving the current at the time staff a chance with a somehwhat built roster, he let nature take its course.

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                        @mr.-make-believe said:

                        He also thought Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were best for the team. We can say he’d be wrong again. 

                        The current crew earned their opportunity to go into next season at the helm. Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken.

                        No, he let Hue bring in Haley. He was giving the current at the time staff a chance with a somehwhat built roster, he let nature take its course.

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                        @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                        No, he let Hue bring in Haley. He was giving the current at the time staff a chance with a somehwhat built roster, he let nature take its course.

                        You think Jackson wanted Haley here? I think you're dreaming oh, it was forced on him that pissed him off every second of the day.

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                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                          McCarthy wasn't even good for a HoF talent like Rodgers.    Why would there be an impression that here is some how different...? 

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                            @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                            No, he let Hue bring in Haley. He was giving the current at the time staff a chance with a somehwhat built roster, he let nature take its course.

                            You think Jackson wanted Haley here? I think you're dreaming oh, it was forced on him that pissed him off every second of the day.

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                            CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            You think Jackson wanted Haley here? I think you're dreaming oh, it was forced on him that pissed him off every second of the day.

                            WSS

                            O I was under the impresssion that Haley was the guy Hue wanted to bring in.

                            who did he want then?

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                              McCarthy wasn't even good for a HoF talent like Rodgers.    Why would there be an impression that here is some how different...? 

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                              CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              McCarthy wasn't even good for a HoF talent like Rodgers.    Why would there be an impression that here is some how different...? 

                              I blame the Packers GM, well now ex GM since he got fired..

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                                In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

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                                flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                In any case, if Dorsey thinks McCarthy is best for the team...who are we to say right?

                                Agree. I have opined about keeping things intact. But I respect what JD has done and will support the team and his choices until given reason other wise. 

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                                  KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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                                  The last thing I want is another qb squanderer taking over the reins.

                                  Keep whats in place another year...they have earned it.

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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    McCarthy wasn't even good for a HoF talent like Rodgers.    Why would there be an impression that here is some how different...? 

                                    I blame the Packers GM, well now ex GM since he got fired..

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                                    I blame the Packers GM, well now ex GM since he got fired..

                                    GM didn't have a hand in the game day prep and questionable coaching the last 5 years.  

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                                      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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                                      Out of all of the rumors, this is the only dude that I don't want.

                                      I think Dorsey already has his guy all but signed, but needs to do the Broadway style song and dance show to appease the NFL's ridiculous hiring rules. 

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        The problem with Dorsey seems to be his locking onto personnel early with little regard to input from anyone else.   It worked with Baker (so far)                  But he believes McCarthy is Andy Reid - he is incorrect.  

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                                          @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

                                          I blame the Packers GM, well now ex GM since he got fired..

                                          GM didn't have a hand in the game day prep and questionable coaching the last 5 years.  

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                                          CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          GM didn't have a hand in the game day prep and questionable coaching the last 5 years.  

                                          Hahaha but how about the actual supporting cast of one of the greatest QBs of all time?

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