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Rock n Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2019

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  • Here are the names of the acts that have been announced who will be inducted into the RRHOF next year:

    Here is the list of 2019 inductees:
    • The Cure
    • Def Leppard
    • Janet Jackson
    • Stevie Nicks
    • Radiohead
    • Roxy Music
    • The Zombies

    I am cool with the Zombies and Roxy Music as I know and like them.  Stevie Nicks solo?  I guess...though no more so than Lindsey Buckingham solo.  Janet Jackson?  Meh....but OK.   The other 3 are 80s era bands that I do not know much about... except that they are big names.   Radiohead, Def Leppard, The Cure.    

    I might prefer some others:  Tears for Fears,  Culture Club, Pet Shop Boys, Pat Benatar, Eurythmics.  (though...are some of these in?)...but it is just because I know them better.

  • I can’t stand Def Leppard. Most of those hair bands from the 80’s sucked

  • Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

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    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    Sorry, but The Zombies and Roxy Music are more Rock n Roll than the others here.   If you just want "pure" Rock n Roll....they would have quit when they inducted Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly and Bill Haley and the Comets.

  • AxeA Axe

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    I have no idea of how many albums ANYONE sold. But I would think Janet Jackson sold more. Or Whitney Houston sold more than ALL OF THEM

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  • AxeA Axe

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    screw that MC5 would kick all their ass's in a fight 

  • @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    screw that MC5 would kick all their ass's in a fight 

    @atom said:

    screw that MC5 would kick all their ass's in a fight 

    STFU Atom ant.  atomant1.gif

  • @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    I have no idea of how many albums ANYONE sold. But I would think Janet Jackson sold more. Or Whitney Houston sold more than ALL OF THEM

    @browns149 said:

    I have no idea of how many albums ANYONE sold. But I would think Janet Jackson sold more. Or Whitney Houston sold more than ALL OF THEM

    Whitney Houston sold more than either of them.   Janet Jackson and Def Leppard have sold about the same number.

    Rihanna has sold more than any of the ones mentioned, but she is not eligible for the RRHOF until 2030.

    There are some BIG sellers who are eligible...but who have not been voted in:   Mariah Carey, Whitney, Celine Dion

    But, I guess they are not considered Rock n Roll....so have not been inducted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists

    Others not inducted:   Frank Sinatra;   Barbara Streisand. Garth Brooks

  • I was just pointing out that selling over 100 million records doesn’t automatically get you in.

    IMO  Def leppard sucks

  • @atom said:

    screw that MC5 would kick all their ass's in a fight 

    STFU Atom ant.  atomant1.gif

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    STFU Atom ant.  atomant1.gif

    fuck off you racist The MC5 kicks ass

  • AxeA Axe

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    It's the "Jan Wenner HOF".. Janet Jackson has 0 business being in.. She has nothing R&R about her,,,, And Mutt Lang definitely deserves to be in. He made AC/DC stars too..... I'll go as far as saying Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio deserve to be in more than Janet fucking Jackson.. They actually have influenced the sound of Rock music and rock guitar for almost 50 years.. Jan Wenner.. I hope he chokes on a fucking ham sandwich and croaks!

  • @axe said:

    Def Leppard has sold more than 100 million albums world wide.. Hell yes they deserve to be in!  But, they need to take Mutt Lange in with them..

    The rest are a joke, with the exception of The Cure..

    If you want to call it the Music Hall of Fame then do it!!!  Quit calling it the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!

    It's the "Jan Wenner HOF".. Janet Jackson has 0 business being in.. She has nothing R&R about her,,,, And Mutt Lang definitely deserves to be in. He made AC/DC stars too..... I'll go as far as saying Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio deserve to be in more than Janet fucking Jackson.. They actually have influenced the sound of Rock music and rock guitar for almost 50 years.. Jan Wenner.. I hope he chokes on a fucking ham sandwich and croaks!

    @nickers said:

    It's the "Jan Wenner HOF".. Janet Jackson has 0 business being in.. She has nothing R&R about her,,,, And Mutt Lang definitely deserves to be in. He made AC/DC stars too..... I'll go as far as saying Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio deserve to be in more than Janet fucking Jackson.. They actually have influenced the sound of Rock music and rock guitar for almost 50 years.. Jan Wenner.. I hope he chokes on a fucking ham sandwich and croaks!

    Everybody has a fucking different idea of what is or is not R&R...and what kind of genre should or should not be in the RRHOF.  They have put one hit wonders in there...yet have left out some people who have had numerous #1 hits.

  • @nickers said:

    It's the "Jan Wenner HOF".. Janet Jackson has 0 business being in.. She has nothing R&R about her,,,, And Mutt Lang definitely deserves to be in. He made AC/DC stars too..... I'll go as far as saying Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio deserve to be in more than Janet fucking Jackson.. They actually have influenced the sound of Rock music and rock guitar for almost 50 years.. Jan Wenner.. I hope he chokes on a fucking ham sandwich and croaks!

    Everybody has a fucking different idea of what is or is not R&R...and what kind of genre should or should not be in the RRHOF.  They have put one hit wonders in there...yet have left out some people who have had numerous #1 hits.

    @the-gipper said:

    Everybody has a fucking different idea of what is or is not R&R...and what kind of genre should or should not be in the RRHOF.  They have put one hit wonders in there...yet have left out some people who have had numerous #1 hits.

    Well I'm not looking at it from the eyes of the average fan (consumer).. I'm looking at it from the eyes of a seasoned Musician whose been at it most of my life (40+ years). Toto deserves to be in and One of Totos' founders Steve Lukather (Guitarist,Musician) deserves to be in by himself .. He's helped written some of the biggest hits in Rock.. and not only rock but Music in general.. him and former Toto drummer , the late Jeff Porcaro and other members of Toto pretty muck made MJ's Thriller all by themselves.. There were a couple of Rock hits off that record.. One being a song called "Beat it" which was composed by Lukather (Music) Guitar solo performed by Eddie Van Halen.. Not to mention Luke has been in on countless sessions with the likes of Chicago, The tubes and over a thousand songs from other artists, throughout the late 70's through the 90's.. Adding his guitar parts and such.. So when I see people like Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson getting in.. it pisses me off because they do NOT meet the criteria as far as I'm concerned..

  • @the-gipper said:

    Everybody has a fucking different idea of what is or is not R&R...and what kind of genre should or should not be in the RRHOF.  They have put one hit wonders in there...yet have left out some people who have had numerous #1 hits.

    Well I'm not looking at it from the eyes of the average fan (consumer).. I'm looking at it from the eyes of a seasoned Musician whose been at it most of my life (40+ years). Toto deserves to be in and One of Totos' founders Steve Lukather (Guitarist,Musician) deserves to be in by himself .. He's helped written some of the biggest hits in Rock.. and not only rock but Music in general.. him and former Toto drummer , the late Jeff Porcaro and other members of Toto pretty muck made MJ's Thriller all by themselves.. There were a couple of Rock hits off that record.. One being a song called "Beat it" which was composed by Lukather (Music) Guitar solo performed by Eddie Van Halen.. Not to mention Luke has been in on countless sessions with the likes of Chicago, The tubes and over a thousand songs from other artists, throughout the late 70's through the 90's.. Adding his guitar parts and such.. So when I see people like Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson getting in.. it pisses me off because they do NOT meet the criteria as far as I'm concerned..

    @nickers said:

    Well I'm not looking at it from the eyes of the average fan (consumer).. I'm looking at it from the eyes of a seasoned Musician whose been at it most of my life (40+ years).

    Well...here is a clue for  you: nobody cares about that. Particularly the people that run this institution.  This is a museum/hof meant for the consumption by the public....and NOT for the esoteric long time musician. So, like I said, nobody gives  shit about what you give a shit about.

    Toto deserves to be in and One of Totos' founders Steve Lukather (Guitarist,Musician) deserves to be in by himself .. He's helped written some of the biggest hits in Rock.. and not only rock but Music in general.. him and former Toto drummer , the late Jeff Porcaro and other members of Toto pretty muck made MJ's Thriller all by themselves.. There were a couple of Rock hits off that record.. One being a song called "Beat it" which was composed by Lukather (Music) Guitar solo performed by Eddie Van Halen.. Not to mention Luke has been in on countless sessions with the likes of Chicago, The tubes and over a thousand songs from other artists, throughout the late 70's through the 90's.. Adding his guitar parts and such.. So when I see people like Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson getting in.. it pisses me off because they do NOT meet the criteria as far as I'm concerned..

    Except, of course, likely that they did meet the criteria  Why?  Because YOUR criteria is NOT THE criteria.......no matter how artistically valid your arguments may be. I believe that they Do have a songwriter section...and a sideman category

  • @nickers said:

    Well I'm not looking at it from the eyes of the average fan (consumer).. I'm looking at it from the eyes of a seasoned Musician whose been at it most of my life (40+ years).

    Well...here is a clue for  you: nobody cares about that. Particularly the people that run this institution.  This is a museum/hof meant for the consumption by the public....and NOT for the esoteric long time musician. So, like I said, nobody gives  shit about what you give a shit about.

    Toto deserves to be in and One of Totos' founders Steve Lukather (Guitarist,Musician) deserves to be in by himself .. He's helped written some of the biggest hits in Rock.. and not only rock but Music in general.. him and former Toto drummer , the late Jeff Porcaro and other members of Toto pretty muck made MJ's Thriller all by themselves.. There were a couple of Rock hits off that record.. One being a song called "Beat it" which was composed by Lukather (Music) Guitar solo performed by Eddie Van Halen.. Not to mention Luke has been in on countless sessions with the likes of Chicago, The tubes and over a thousand songs from other artists, throughout the late 70's through the 90's.. Adding his guitar parts and such.. So when I see people like Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson getting in.. it pisses me off because they do NOT meet the criteria as far as I'm concerned..

    Except, of course, likely that they did meet the criteria  Why?  Because YOUR criteria is NOT THE criteria.......no matter how artistically valid your arguments may be. I believe that they Do have a songwriter section...and a sideman category

    @the-gipper said:

    Well here's a clue for you.. No one gives a shit what you think.. So.. There's that... I at least I understand what is Rock.. And what is NOT Rock . I'm also a fan of music of all kinds.. They're criteria is garbage...If they're gonna induct Rap and Pop artists , Then the reality is it really is NOT the RRHOF.. I mean there are exceptions like Leo Fender and Les Paul.. They brought the guitar to the modern age and influenced 50+ years worth of rock music.... Without Electric Guitars.. There ain't no Rock and Roll.. I also stated.. They should put Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio in the Rock hall respectively.. These men are every bit as influential as Les Paul and Leo Fender.. These men are the leading manufacturers of Electric guitar pickups which for the last 50 some years has influenced the sound of Rock guitar and also a number of different genres.. These men are Rock legends IMHO.... And yes.. I'm not in anyway underscoring songwriters like John Prine or someone like Glenn Ballard.. But if they're gonna keep passing on rock genius like Todd Rundgren or Steve Lukather.. Then the RRHOF is a complete fraud and should be blown up...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well here's a clue for you.. No one gives a shit what you think.. So.. There's that... I at least I understand what is Rock.. And what is NOT Rock . I'm also a fan of music of all kinds.. They're criteria is garbage...If they're gonna induct Rap and Pop artists , Then the reality is it really is NOT the RRHOF.. I mean there are exceptions like Leo Fender and Les Paul.. They brought the guitar to the modern age and influenced 50+ years worth of rock music.... Without Electric Guitars.. There ain't no Rock and Roll.. I also stated.. They should put Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio in the Rock hall respectively.. These men are every bit as influential as Les Paul and Leo Fender.. These men are the leading manufacturers of Electric guitar pickups which for the last 50 some years has influenced the sound of Rock guitar and also a number of different genres.. These men are Rock legends IMHO.... And yes.. I'm not in anyway underscoring songwriters like John Prine or someone like Glenn Ballard.. But if they're gonna keep passing on rock genius like Todd Rundgren or Steve Lukather.. Then the RRHOF is a complete fraud and should be blown up...

    @nickers said:

    Well here's a clue for you.. No one gives a shit what you think.. So.. There's that

    I know that....but I am not complaining about it...like you are.

    ... I at least I understand what is Rock.. And what is NOT Rock . I'm also a fan of music of all kinds.. They're criteria is garbage...If they're gonna induct Rap and Pop artists , Then the reality is it really is NOT the RRHOF.

    Well...maybe they have a different definition than you do.  Maybe I have a different definition than you do. So, the fact is, none of "them" are going to listen to what either you or I would have to say.  I just don't get as bent out of shape about it as you do.

    . I mean there are exceptions like Leo Fender and Les Paul.. They brought the guitar to the modern age and influenced 50+ years worth of rock music.... Without Electric Guitars.. There ain't no Rock and Roll.. I also stated.. They should put Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio in the Rock hall respectively.. These men are every bit as influential as Les Paul and Leo Fender.. These men are the leading manufacturers of Electric guitar pickups which for the last 50 some years has influenced the sound of Rock guitar and also a number of different genres.. These men are Rock legends IMHO.... And yes.. I'm not in anyway underscoring songwriters like John Prine or someone like Glenn Ballard.. But if they're gonna keep passing on rock genius like Todd Rundgren or Steve Lukather.. Then the RRHOF is a complete fraud and should be blown up...

    Again....notwithstanding the potential validity of your points.....I will just say that I will appreciate what they have done, not what they haven't....and hopefully.....to quote Todd Rundgren  they will "See the Light" someday.

  • @nickers said:

    Well here's a clue for you.. No one gives a shit what you think.. So.. There's that

    I know that....but I am not complaining about it...like you are.

    ... I at least I understand what is Rock.. And what is NOT Rock . I'm also a fan of music of all kinds.. They're criteria is garbage...If they're gonna induct Rap and Pop artists , Then the reality is it really is NOT the RRHOF.

    Well...maybe they have a different definition than you do.  Maybe I have a different definition than you do. So, the fact is, none of "them" are going to listen to what either you or I would have to say.  I just don't get as bent out of shape about it as you do.

    . I mean there are exceptions like Leo Fender and Les Paul.. They brought the guitar to the modern age and influenced 50+ years worth of rock music.... Without Electric Guitars.. There ain't no Rock and Roll.. I also stated.. They should put Seymour Duncan and Larry DiMarzio in the Rock hall respectively.. These men are every bit as influential as Les Paul and Leo Fender.. These men are the leading manufacturers of Electric guitar pickups which for the last 50 some years has influenced the sound of Rock guitar and also a number of different genres.. These men are Rock legends IMHO.... And yes.. I'm not in anyway underscoring songwriters like John Prine or someone like Glenn Ballard.. But if they're gonna keep passing on rock genius like Todd Rundgren or Steve Lukather.. Then the RRHOF is a complete fraud and should be blown up...

    Again....notwithstanding the potential validity of your points.....I will just say that I will appreciate what they have done, not what they haven't....and hopefully.....to quote Todd Rundgren  they will "See the Light" someday.

    @the-gipper said:

    Hey sue me for being passionate about something I strongly believe in.... I didn't get into music to get rich quick or obtain anything in life except my own pure satisfaction of creating and playing music.. When I see a fraud taking place.. I don't mind airing my views about it.. They may not care.. or change just because I said something.. But the end result is its wrong and fraudulent.. I guess assholes like Jan Wenner don't have any trouble sleeping at night.. I pity him...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Hey sue me for being passionate about something I strongly believe in.... I didn't get into music to get rich quick or obtain anything in life except my own pure satisfaction of creating and playing music.. When I see a fraud taking place.. I don't mind airing my views about it.. They may not care.. or change just because I said something.. But the end result is its wrong and fraudulent.. I guess assholes like Jan Wenner don't have any trouble sleeping at night.. I pity him...

    @nickers said:

    Hey sue me for being passionate about something I strongly believe in.... I didn't get into music to get rich quick or obtain anything in life except my own pure satisfaction of creating and playing music.. When I see a fraud taking place.. I don't mind airing my views about it.. They may not care.. or change just because I said something.. But the end result is its wrong and fraudulent.. I guess assholes like Jan Wenner don't have any trouble sleeping at night.. I pity him...

    Wrong is merely an opinion in this case maybe they think they’re right and that you were wrong.

  • @nickers said:

    Hey sue me for being passionate about something I strongly believe in.... I didn't get into music to get rich quick or obtain anything in life except my own pure satisfaction of creating and playing music.. When I see a fraud taking place.. I don't mind airing my views about it.. They may not care.. or change just because I said something.. But the end result is its wrong and fraudulent.. I guess assholes like Jan Wenner don't have any trouble sleeping at night.. I pity him...

    Wrong is merely an opinion in this case maybe they think they’re right and that you were wrong.

    @the-gipper said:

    Wrong is merely an opinion in this case maybe they think they’re right and that you were wrong.

    They're wrong and you know it..  Do you always give enablers to idiots?