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  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Instead of criticizing the messenger why not address the message of the dems hypocrisy on border security?

    25 Years of Democrats' Illegal Immigration Hypocrisy

    https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2018-02-01-25-years-of-democrats-illegal-immigration-hypocrisy/

    That's pretty easy. The people who the demo represent changed their minds about the wall. So their representatives changed their position. That is how Representative Democracies are supposed to work. Maybe you could explain why Trump is ignoring the 64% who are opposed to shutting down the government for the wall?

    American voters oppose building a wall on the Mexican border 54 - 43 percent and say 54 - 44 percent the wall is not necessary to improve border security, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. 

    This is the highest level of support for the wall since the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University National Poll first asked the question in November 2016. 

    Opposition to the wall is 57 - 40 percent among women, 90 - 8 percent among Democrats. Republicans support the wall 86 - 14 percent. Independent voters are divided as 45 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. Men also are divided as 47 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. White voters are divided 49 - 50 percent. Opposition is 78 - 16 percent among black voters and 68 - 27 percent among Hispanic voters. 

    By a wider 62 - 34 percent, American voters oppose shutting down the government because of funding differences over the wall. Republicans support shutting down the government over the wall 59 - 33 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group supporting a shutdown. 

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590

    @cccjwh said:

    That's pretty easy. The people who the demo represent changed their minds about the wall. So their representatives changed their position. That is how Representative Democracies are supposed to work. Maybe you could explain why Trump is ignoring the 64% who are opposed to shutting down the government for the wall?

    American voters oppose building a wall on the Mexican border 54 - 43 percent and say 54 - 44 percent the wall is not necessary to improve border security, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. 

    This is the highest level of support for the wall since the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University National Poll first asked the question in November 2016. 

    Opposition to the wall is 57 - 40 percent among women, 90 - 8 percent among Democrats. Republicans support the wall 86 - 14 percent. Independent voters are divided as 45 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. Men also are divided as 47 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. White voters are divided 49 - 50 percent. Opposition is 78 - 16 percent among black voters and 68 - 27 percent among Hispanic voters. 

    By a wider 62 - 34 percent, American voters oppose shutting down the government because of funding differences over the wall. Republicans support shutting down the government over the wall 59 - 33 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group supporting a shutdown. 

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590

    Polls are highly inaccurate nowadays due to cell phone usage.

  • And not one time did this MF mention the lack of cowbell in modern  rock music.   Like... How am I supposed to look at my President if he won't address that big issue?!?! 

    @tiamat63 said:

    And not one time did this MF mention the lack of cowbell in modern  rock music.   Like... How am I supposed to look at my President if he won't address that big issue?!?! 

    Maybe they need some more cowbell in rap music and/or country music too...

  • @cccjwh said:

    That's pretty easy. The people who the demo represent changed their minds about the wall. So their representatives changed their position. That is how Representative Democracies are supposed to work. Maybe you could explain why Trump is ignoring the 64% who are opposed to shutting down the government for the wall?

    American voters oppose building a wall on the Mexican border 54 - 43 percent and say 54 - 44 percent the wall is not necessary to improve border security, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. 

    This is the highest level of support for the wall since the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pe-ack) University National Poll first asked the question in November 2016. 

    Opposition to the wall is 57 - 40 percent among women, 90 - 8 percent among Democrats. Republicans support the wall 86 - 14 percent. Independent voters are divided as 45 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. Men also are divided as 47 percent support the wall, with 51 percent opposed. White voters are divided 49 - 50 percent. Opposition is 78 - 16 percent among black voters and 68 - 27 percent among Hispanic voters. 

    By a wider 62 - 34 percent, American voters oppose shutting down the government because of funding differences over the wall. Republicans support shutting down the government over the wall 59 - 33 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group supporting a shutdown. 

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2590

    Polls are highly inaccurate nowadays due to cell phone usage.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Polls are highly inaccurate nowadays due to cell phone usage.

    Bahahaha. ?

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Polls are highly inaccurate nowadays due to cell phone usage.

    Bahahaha. ?

    @cccjwh said:

    Bahahaha. ?

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  • @cccjwh said:

    Bahahaha. ?

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    @oldbrownsfan said:

    You keep on living in your safe place. "but but but the polls aren't accurate..." ?

    It was a good year for polls. This time, they got the basic story of the election right: a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. And on average, the final polls were closer to the results than any election in a decade. Best of all, the polls were relatively unbiased, meaning that one party didn’t systematically overperform or underperform its final poll results.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/upshot/polls-2018-midterms-accuracy.html

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    You keep on living in your safe place. "but but but the polls aren't accurate..." ?

    It was a good year for polls. This time, they got the basic story of the election right: a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. And on average, the final polls were closer to the results than any election in a decade. Best of all, the polls were relatively unbiased, meaning that one party didn’t systematically overperform or underperform its final poll results.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/upshot/polls-2018-midterms-accuracy.html

    Using the biased NY Times for a source....not acceptable.

    @cccjwh said:

    You keep on living in your safe place. 

    It was a good year for polls. This time, they got the basic story of the election right: a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. And on average, the final polls were closer to the results than any election in a decade. Best of all, the polls were relatively unbiased, meaning that one party didn’t systematically overperform or underperform its final poll results.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/upshot/polls-2018-midterms-accuracy.html

    When it comes to bad polling just say president Trump...

    Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - With hours to go before Americans vote, Democrat Hillary Clinton has about a 90 percent chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House, according to the final Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/clinton-has-90-percent-chance-of-winning-reuters-ipsos-states-of-the-nation-idUSKBN1322J1

  • Using the biased NY Times for a source....not acceptable.

    @cccjwh said:

    You keep on living in your safe place. 

    It was a good year for polls. This time, they got the basic story of the election right: a Democratic House and a Republican Senate. And on average, the final polls were closer to the results than any election in a decade. Best of all, the polls were relatively unbiased, meaning that one party didn’t systematically overperform or underperform its final poll results.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/upshot/polls-2018-midterms-accuracy.html

    When it comes to bad polling just say president Trump...

    Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - With hours to go before Americans vote, Democrat Hillary Clinton has about a 90 percent chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House, according to the final Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/clinton-has-90-percent-chance-of-winning-reuters-ipsos-states-of-the-nation-idUSKBN1322J1

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Using the biased NY Times for a source....not acceptable.

    When it comes to bad polling just say president Trump...

    Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - With hours to go before Americans vote, Democrat Hillary Clinton has about a 90 percent chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House, according to the final Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll/clinton-has-90-percent-chance-of-winning-reuters-ipsos-states-of-the-nation-idUSKBN1322J1

    I'm sorry, do you not understand how percentage work? 

    And...

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    Factual Reporting: HIGH
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  • Although the NY Times is a left wing rag you like to use it alot so this one is fer you:

    NY Times..Hillary Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

  • Although the NY Times is a left wing rag you like to use it alot so this one is fer you:

    NY Times..Hillary Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Although the NY Times is a left wing rag you like to use it alot so this one is fer you:

    NY Times..Hillary Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

    Non Cheetos Jesus you really don't understand how percentages work.... I would laugh but it is kind of sad.

  • cccjwh mz the pussy translation:

      "I'm a pouty little ignorant beeach but I get a little attention so I feeeeeel better about myself...sometimes..."

  • Trump won even though most polls predicted he wouldn't. Now every poll that says something I disagree with us invalid because Trump. 

    Trump's election had the hidden consequence of being a big blow to the publics understanding and acceptance of math and statistics

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Although the NY Times is a left wing rag you like to use it alot so this one is fer you:

    NY Times..Hillary Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

    Non Cheetos Jesus you really don't understand how percentages work.... I would laugh but it is kind of sad.

    @cccjwh said:

    Non Cheetos Jesus you really don't understand how percentages work.... I would laugh but it is kind of sad.

    Percentages based on what???? bad polling that is what ...there you go.

  • @cccjwh said:

    Non Cheetos Jesus you really don't understand how percentages work.... I would laugh but it is kind of sad.

    Percentages based on what???? bad polling that is what ...there you go.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Percentages based on what???? bad polling that is what ...there you go.

    If they predict that Hillary has 85% chance of winning. That means she would win 85 out of 100 times. Which means Trump wins 15 out of 100. The polling didn't say she had 100% of winning. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Percentages based on what???? bad polling that is what ...there you go.

    If they predict that Hillary has 85% chance of winning. That means she would win 85 out of 100 times. Which means Trump wins 15 out of 100. The polling didn't say she had 100% of winning. 

    @cccjwh said:

    If they predict that Hillary has 85% chance of winning. That means she would win 85 out of 100 times. Which means Trump wins 15 out of 100. The polling didn't say she had 100% of winning. 

    And why would they predict Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning...again bad polling data.

  • @cccjwh said:

    If they predict that Hillary has 85% chance of winning. That means she would win 85 out of 100 times. Which means Trump wins 15 out of 100. The polling didn't say she had 100% of winning. 

    And why would they predict Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning...again bad polling data.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    And why would they predict Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning...again bad polling data.

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you any better. It's in your own words. She had an 85% CHANCE of winning.  Which mean Trump had 15% CHANCE of winning. When flipping a coin you have 50% CHANCE of getting heads. When picking a card to have 4 out of 52 CHANCE of getting an Ace. Trump had a better CHANCE of winning than you do of pick a ace of heart randoming from a deck of cards.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    And why would they predict Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning...again bad polling data.

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you any better. It's in your own words. She had an 85% CHANCE of winning.  Which mean Trump had 15% CHANCE of winning. When flipping a coin you have 50% CHANCE of getting heads. When picking a card to have 4 out of 52 CHANCE of getting an Ace. Trump had a better CHANCE of winning than you do of pick a ace of heart randoming from a deck of cards.

    @cccjwh said:

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you. It's in your own words. I am a pansy bot with no gender, and I'm stupid.

    http://theconversation.com/explainer-how-do-you-read-an-election-poll-41204

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    And why would they predict Clinton has an 85 percent chance of winning...again bad polling data.

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you any better. It's in your own words. She had an 85% CHANCE of winning.  Which mean Trump had 15% CHANCE of winning. When flipping a coin you have 50% CHANCE of getting heads. When picking a card to have 4 out of 52 CHANCE of getting an Ace. Trump had a better CHANCE of winning than you do of pick a ace of heart randoming from a deck of cards.

    @cccjwh said:

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you. It's in your own words. She had an 85% CHANCE of winning. 

    We are talking about two different things. You ever hear of taking something down to the common denominator?  There is a phrase in computer programming that applies here, garbage in and garbage out...I'm speaking about bad polling that lead to wrong predictions. 

     "Garbage In, Garbage Out." GIGO is a computer science acronym that implies bad input will result in bad output. Because computers operate using strict logic, invalid input may produce unrecognizable output, or "garbage."

    The election models showing a blow out win for Clinton were based on garbage input..

  • @cccjwh said:

    I really have no idea how to explain this to you. It's in your own words. She had an 85% CHANCE of winning. 

    We are talking about two different things. You ever hear of taking something down to the common denominator?  There is a phrase in computer programming that applies here, garbage in and garbage out...I'm speaking about bad polling that lead to wrong predictions. 

     "Garbage In, Garbage Out." GIGO is a computer science acronym that implies bad input will result in bad output. Because computers operate using strict logic, invalid input may produce unrecognizable output, or "garbage."

    The election models showing a blow out win for Clinton were based on garbage input..

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    We are talking about two different things. You ever hear of taking something down to the common denominator?  There is a phrase in computer programming that applies here, garbage in and garbage out...I'm speaking about bad polling that lead to wrong predictions. 

     "Garbage In, Garbage Out." GIGO is a computer science acronym that implies bad input will result in bad output. Because computers operate using strict logic, invalid input may produce unrecognizable output, or "garbage."

    The election models showing a blow out win for Clinton were based on garbage input..

    Yeah, I really don't need you to tell me about coding. The polls said Trump had a small chance of winning. So your bullshit excuse for your war hero ignoring what the majority of the public wants, doesn't hold water. I also show you how well the polls did well predicting the 2018 elections. But you keep on repeating to yourself "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it".

    The average from the polls was + 3.2 for Clinton that is not a blow out. She did win the pop vote by the way, by a lot.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    We are talking about two different things. You ever hear of taking something down to the common denominator?  There is a phrase in computer programming that applies here, garbage in and garbage out...I'm speaking about bad polling that lead to wrong predictions. 

     "Garbage In, Garbage Out." GIGO is a computer science acronym that implies bad input will result in bad output. Because computers operate using strict logic, invalid input may produce unrecognizable output, or "garbage."

    The election models showing a blow out win for Clinton were based on garbage input..

    Yeah, I really don't need you to tell me about coding. The polls said Trump had a small chance of winning. So your bullshit excuse for your war hero ignoring what the majority of the public wants, doesn't hold water. I also show you how well the polls did well predicting the 2018 elections. But you keep on repeating to yourself "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it".

    The average from the polls was + 3.2 for Clinton that is not a blow out. She did win the pop vote by the way, by a lot.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    @cccjwh said:

    Yeah, I really don't need you to tell me about coding. The polls said Trump had a small chance of winning. So your bullshit excuse for your war hero ignoring what the majority of the public wants, doesn't hold water. I also show you how well the polls did well predicting the 2018 elections. But you keep on repeating to yourself "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it".

    The average from the polls was + 3.2 for Clinton that is not a blow out. She did win the pop vote by the way, by a lot.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    I highlighted it for you. Bad polling.

  • @cccjwh said:

    Yeah, I really don't need you to tell me about coding. The polls said Trump had a small chance of winning. So your bullshit excuse for your war hero ignoring what the majority of the public wants, doesn't hold water. I also show you how well the polls did well predicting the 2018 elections. But you keep on repeating to yourself "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it".

    The average from the polls was + 3.2 for Clinton that is not a blow out. She did win the pop vote by the way, by a lot.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    I highlighted it for you. Bad polling.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I highlighted it for you. Bad polling.

    Did they say he had no chance of winning? No. Which mean there was a chance of him winning. But you keep on using this childish excuse to avoid the facts that a majority of public doesn't support your war hero shutting down the government.  

    Wait here another poll you can ignore. 50% of registered voters Blame Trump for shutdown, up 4 points since Christmas.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-has-lost-ground-in-the-shutdown-blame-game/

    Side Note: It is so much easier reading this forum with baby cow on ignore. No more scrolling through pages of copy paste garbage and childish memes. I would recommend it.