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  • @jcam222 said:

    Analytics are used in hiring throughout business anymore. Ever taken a trimetrics assessment? I can assure you they are scary good at getting to the core of who you are. 

    Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    I really don't understand why multiple people on this forum think they're making a point when they spout emotional nonsense against "analytics."  If you've ever analyzed profiles of the customers who buy your product.. that's analytics.  If you've ever tried to make sure your emotions aren't clouding your judgement.. that's analytics. 

    You know what's not analytics? Being the Seahawks and telling Russell Wilson who's having one of the historically best deep ball seasons of all time.. to hand the ball off for under 2 YPC more than 30 times under the magical theory that "If We Run 30 Times We Win" ... watching the theory fail, and not changing.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    The Japanese were eating bratwurst 🙂

  • Wow, just wow! Forget about Parcells advising Haslam? Must have forgot about Dorsey’s unnamed committee. 

  • @choco said:

    What initially led you to believe only Dorsey would be conducting the search?

    Every media report that I saw.

    @the-gipper said:

    Every media report that I saw.

    Sucker!

  • @jcam222 said:

    Analytics are used in hiring throughout business anymore. Ever taken a trimetrics assessment? I can assure you they are scary good at getting to the core of who you are. 

    Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    I really don't understand why multiple people on this forum think they're making a point when they spout emotional nonsense against "analytics."  If you've ever analyzed profiles of the customers who buy your product.. that's analytics.  If you've ever tried to make sure your emotions aren't clouding your judgement.. that's analytics. 

    You know what's not analytics? Being the Seahawks and telling Russell Wilson who's having one of the historically best deep ball seasons of all time.. to hand the ball off for under 2 YPC more than 30 times under the magical theory that "If We Run 30 Times We Win" ... watching the theory fail, and not changing.

    @unsympathetic said:

    You know what's not analytics? Being the Seahawks and telling Russell Wilson who's having one of the historically best deep ball seasons of all time.. to hand the ball off for under 2 YPC more than 30 times under the magical theory that "If We Run 30 Times We Win" ... watching the theory fail, and not changing.

    Oh it was analytics all right. But they forgot that the data came from before Beastmode left. LOL!?

  • ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

  • ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    @lodilobo said:

    ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    If we were at all serious about Stefanski, I think we dodged the bullet that would have been the Browns final killshot. The Coup de Grace.

  • Gee, nobody seems to mention Bill Parcells in this. He is consulting with the Haslams. 

  • Well....maybe Parcells was advising Haslam to hire Stefanski....who knows? I feel a lot more comfortable with Kitchens....still very concerned about the coordinators and assistants he can bring in, though.

  • Kitchens will be hiring his own staff. Parcells told Haslam to ignore the Mannings. Kitchens will report to Dorsey. And that’s the truth!

  • Gee, nobody seems to mention Bill Parcells in this. He is consulting with the Haslams. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Gee, nobody seems to mention Bill Parcells in this. He is consulting with the Haslams. 

    could you see Parcells asking his wife anything about football? thanks for stepping in Bill !! 

  • ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    @lodilobo said:

    ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    again...its was all over the media because one guy on the local beat connected some unrelated dots and that was his conclusion.  other media members piggybacking off groosi's story.  with was nothing more than made up bullshit.

  • Jimmy and those boys may have sat in on the meetings, but this is Dorsey's football team. He has been given free reign from the Haslems. His players, his coach, his QB. This is what we wanted Holmgren to do for Lerner Jr., take the team out of his hands and build a winning organization. But Mike got a little too comfortable.

    holmgren-relaxes-copy.jpg

  • That photoshopped picture still cracks me up.  ?

  • It is true that people believe conspiracy theories.  Still waiting on that actual evidence of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction..

    I have yet to see one piece of evidence that could even be construed to be interference by Haslam.  Until then, I don't believe assertions.

  • @lodilobo said:

    ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    If we were at all serious about Stefanski, I think we dodged the bullet that would have been the Browns final killshot. The Coup de Grace.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If we were at all serious about Stefanski, I think we dodged the bullet that would have been the Browns final killshot. The Coup de Grace.

    It'd be funny if it weren't true.

  • @lodilobo said:

    ...and maybe Haslam saw the negative reaction on twitter and other media regarding possibly hiring Stefanski over Kitchens, a couple hours before, and changed his mind. Gipper was NOT premature in the original post. It was all over the media, of a power struggle between Dorsey and DePodesta. I think it was accurate and the Hillbilly came to his senses. 

    again...its was all over the media because one guy on the local beat connected some unrelated dots and that was his conclusion.  other media members piggybacking off groosi's story.  with was nothing more than made up bullshit.

    @choco said:

    again...its was all over the media because one guy on the local beat connected some unrelated dots and that was his conclusion.  other media members piggybacking off groosi's story.  with was nothing more than made up bullshit.

    Made up bullshit or not....I don't think it was purely coincidental that within a couple hours after it was out there, Mortenson was reporting that Kitchens was the new HC.

  • @choco said:

    again...its was all over the media because one guy on the local beat connected some unrelated dots and that was his conclusion.  other media members piggybacking off groosi's story.  with was nothing more than made up bullshit.

    Made up bullshit or not....I don't think it was purely coincidental that within a couple hours after it was out there, Mortenson was reporting that Kitchens was the new HC.

    @lodilobo said:

    Made up bullshit or not....I don't think it was purely coincidental that within a couple hours after it was out there, Mortenson was reporting that Kitchens was the new HC.

    ...and why is Grossi getting the blame?....that's not where I heard it.

  • I am guessing some of you feel silly in hind sight ?, trust the process

    @jcam222 said:

    I am guessing some of you feel silly in hind sight ?, trust the process

    Maybe Jimmy didn't fuck it up this time....but apparently not without trying.  I heard that Depo and maybe Berry wanted Stefanski....but that Dorsey stuck to his guns with Kitchen....and got his way. 

    So maybe, just maybe, JimmyDee is brightening up.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Every media report that I saw.

    They said leading the search.  Leading implies that others would be following the lead.

    @ballpeen said:

    They said leading the search.  Leading implies that others would be following the lead.

    Yes...but then there were reports out that he was NOT leading the search...that he was just one of the voices.

    So...it is highly possible that THOSE reports were wrong...that Dorsey was in fact "leading".   And that is good.

  • Jimmy and those boys may have sat in on the meetings, but this is Dorsey's football team. He has been given free reign from the Haslems. His players, his coach, his QB. This is what we wanted Holmgren to do for Lerner Jr., take the team out of his hands and build a winning organization. But Mike got a little too comfortable.

    holmgren-relaxes-copy.jpg

    Zombo said:

    Jimmy and those boys may have sat in on the meetings, but this is Dorsey's football team. He has been given free reign from the Haslems. His players, his coach, his QB. This is what we wanted Holmgren to do for Lerner Jr., take the team out of his hands and build a winning organization. But Mike got a little too comfortable.

    holmgren-relaxes-copy.jpg

    What is Holmgren doing these days?   Nothing in football that I am aware of.  Perhaps he is home....riding golf carts around, smoking, drinking and living off all the money Randy gave him?