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Zona D outside of Patrick Peterson wasn't much - they lost calais campbell, they lost their rover DB Mathieu. They're so bad they just hired the useless Denver Vance Joseph to be their DC.. They had barely above-average seasons from DB Budda Baker / LB haason reddick / DL chandler jones.
As well, don't look now but someone named Pierre Desir was the 15th rated CB [ahead of Lattimore, Slay and others] in the entire league this season with Indy.
Zona D outside of Patrick Peterson wasn't much - they lost calais campbell, they lost their rover DB Mathieu. They're so bad they just hired the useless Denver Vance Joseph to be their DC.. They had barely above-average seasons from DB Budda Baker / LB haason reddick / DL chandler jones.
As well, don't look now but someone named Pierre Desir was the 15th rated CB [ahead of Lattimore, Slay and others] in the entire league this season with Indy.
& we've all seen how that works out- you have one all-world corner. Who's he covering? Throw it the other way.
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Reading several pages on his schemes and philosophy now. The one consistent is the amount of zone and pattern matching zone he plays. With certain personnel he gets blitz happy and others not so much. Appears to be pretty aggressive mostly running 1 gap assignments.
On the fence about it because I see how badly the Cardinals fell off in defensive DVOA rankings after only one season. But I also know that when you're offense puts your defense out on the field for 75% of the game, then they're bound to pack it up eventually.
Still reading and versing myself. Will comment more later.
When you play 1 gap up front - you better have good LBers. Wilks had that in Carolina and his defense was successful.
What I like about zone coverage (aside from DBs not turning their backs on the QB) - is it doesn't give opposing offenses the Ray Hortonesque Ghost towns to exploit. That knucklehead used to repeatedly leave an entire third of the field unmanned. So, what do you need to make zone coverage work? LBs and DBs that can close and tackle. Keuchly not only has elite 1st step instinct; but he's also well respected for his level of preparation. It seems like quite a few of his opponents said something along the line of "that guy knew every play we were about to run; and he was never wrong."
It wouldn't suck at all if we hired Wilks. No matter who we hire - we have to improve the LBer Corps, upgrade 1 starting DT and 1 starting DE as well as add depth/talent to the secondary. That said, we have the FA cake and draft volume to make it happen.
When you play 1 gap up front - you better have good LBers. Wilks had that in Carolina and his defense was successful.
What I like about zone coverage (aside from DBs not turning their backs on the QB) - is it doesn't give opposing offenses the Ray Hortonesque Ghost towns to exploit. That knucklehead used to repeatedly leave an entire third of the field unmanned. So, what do you need to make zone coverage work? LBs and DBs that can close and tackle. Keuchly not only has elite 1st step instinct; but he's also well respected for his level of preparation. It seems like quite a few of his opponents said something along the line of "that guy knew every play we were about to run; and he was never wrong."
It wouldn't suck at all if we hired Wilks. No matter who we hire - we have to improve the LBer Corps, upgrade 1 starting DT and 1 starting DE as well as add depth/talent to the secondary. That said, we have the FA cake and draft volume to make it happen.
Maybe he will be able to convince Dorsey to find a way to get White out of LSU. He has greatness written all over him as an ILB with sideline to sideline speed and toughness to fill the inside gaps.
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https://deadspin.com/vikings-run-out-of-excuses-to-keep-mike-nuke-the-gays-1831681752
Interesting fella ?
He said nuke the gays? Now that’s funny! So much for the pc fan base. But that can change. Who needs a heterophobic football coach anyhow. ....lol
Born in Cleveland 1966
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Well, If you look at the stats Williams D put up, I doubt Wilks could do much worse...
One season as the Panthers D-coord isn't a huge sample size. And as I said earlier, the Cardinals DVOA drop off is a bit whacky. If our defense ends up being right around the same as the 2017 Panthers (they gave up 30+ points only 3 times during the season and at most 34) then I'll be completely fine with that. I just want to make sure we engineer a good turnover rate and giving a young offense as many chances to succeed as possible.
One season as the Panthers D-coord isn't a huge sample size. And as I said earlier, the Cardinals DVOA drop off is a bit whacky. If our defense ends up being right around the same as the 2017 Panthers (they gave up 30+ points only 3 times during the season and at most 34) then I'll be completely fine with that. I just want to make sure we engineer a good turnover rate and giving a young offense as many chances to succeed as possible.
From what I have read, the Cards had been running a 3-4 and had their roster geared for that prior to Wilks showing up. It could have been a growing pains year transitioning to a new defense without the required talent. We shall see.
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One season as the Panthers D-coord isn't a huge sample size. And as I said earlier, the Cardinals DVOA drop off is a bit whacky. If our defense ends up being right around the same as the 2017 Panthers (they gave up 30+ points only 3 times during the season and at most 34) then I'll be completely fine with that. I just want to make sure we engineer a good turnover rate and giving a young offense as many chances to succeed as possible.
From what I have read, the Cards had been running a 3-4 and had their roster geared for that prior to Wilks showing up. It could have been a growing pains year transitioning to a new defense without the required talent. We shall see.
From what I have read, the Cards had been running a 3-4 and had their roster geared for that prior to Wilks showing up. It could have been a growing pains year transitioning to a new defense without the required talent. We shall see.
I sure as shit don't want to see somebody shuffling the deck for a 3/4 right now. I don't want to shit can players that play well in a 4/4 while the rest of everybody has to learn completely new terminology. I would like to slow down the run but that 3/4 hasn't been a Panacea for that in the past here.
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From what I have read, the Cards had been running a 3-4 and had their roster geared for that prior to Wilks showing up. It could have been a growing pains year transitioning to a new defense without the required talent. We shall see.
I sure as shit don't want to see somebody shuffling the deck for a 3/4 right now. I don't want to shit can players that play well in a 4/4 while the rest of everybody has to learn completely new terminology. I would like to slow down the run but that 3/4 hasn't been a Panacea for that in the past here.
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I sure as shit don't want to see somebody shuffling the deck for a 3/4 right now. I don't want to shit can players that play well in a 4/4 while the rest of everybody has to learn completely new terminology. I would like to slow down the run but that 3/4 hasn't been a Panacea for that in the past here.
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Wilks runs a 4-3 so we are square. My fear was Pagano coming in and trying to run a 3-4.
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This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type. HATE this pick.
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This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type. HATE this pick.
This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type. HATE this pick.
Yeah totally sounds like they hated him....
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I sure as shit don't want to see somebody shuffling the deck for a 3/4 right now. I don't want to shit can players that play well in a 4/4 while the rest of everybody has to learn completely new terminology. I would like to slow down the run but that 3/4 hasn't been a Panacea for that in the past here.
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Wilks runs a 4-3 so we are square. My fear was Pagano coming in and trying to run a 3-4.
Wilks runs a 4-3 so we are square. My fear was Pagano coming in and trying to run a 3-4.
Now the beer is can worry about Pagano
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Wilks runs a 4-3 so we are square. My fear was Pagano coming in and trying to run a 3-4.
Now the beer is can worry about Pagano
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Now the beer is can worry about Pagano
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Funny......I assume that talk to text interpreted "Bears" as "Beer is".....
It would be fresh if some team had the name The Beers.
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Reading several pages on his schemes and philosophy now. The one consistent is the amount of zone and pattern matching zone he plays. With certain personnel he gets blitz happy and others not so much. Appears to be pretty aggressive mostly running 1 gap assignments.
On the fence about it because I see how badly the Cardinals fell off in defensive DVOA rankings after only one season. But I also know that when you're offense puts your defense out on the field for 75% of the game, then they're bound to pack it up eventually.
Still reading and versing myself. Will comment more later.
When you play 1 gap up front - you better have good LBers. Wilks had that in Carolina and his defense was successful.
What I like about zone coverage (aside from DBs not turning their backs on the QB) - is it doesn't give opposing offenses the Ray Hortonesque Ghost towns to exploit. That knucklehead used to repeatedly leave an entire third of the field unmanned. So, what do you need to make zone coverage work? LBs and DBs that can close and tackle. Keuchly not only has elite 1st step instinct; but he's also well respected for his level of preparation. It seems like quite a few of his opponents said something along the line of "that guy knew every play we were about to run; and he was never wrong."
It wouldn't suck at all if we hired Wilks. No matter who we hire - we have to improve the LBer Corps, upgrade 1 starting DT and 1 starting DE as well as add depth/talent to the secondary. That said, we have the FA cake and draft volume to make it happen.
When you play 1 gap up front - you better have good LBers. Wilks had that in Carolina and his defense was successful.
What I like about zone coverage (aside from DBs not turning their backs on the QB) - is it doesn't give opposing offenses the Ray Hortonesque Ghost towns to exploit. That knucklehead used to repeatedly leave an entire third of the field unmanned. So, what do you need to make zone coverage work? LBs and DBs that can close and tackle. Keuchly not only has elite 1st step instinct; but he's also well respected for his level of preparation. It seems like quite a few of his opponents said something along the line of "that guy knew every play we were about to run; and he was never wrong."
It wouldn't suck at all if we hired Wilks. No matter who we hire - we have to improve the LBer Corps, upgrade 1 starting DT and 1 starting DE as well as add depth/talent to the secondary. That said, we have the FA cake and draft volume to make it happen.
In order.
- Doesn't really matter the front, any defense calls for good players and most especially linebackers.
- Some of the pattern matching that Wilks seems to run is Horton-esque
- Agree on all points
edit: Not directly at you specifically Flugs, this is in general.
Trying to get a better handle on Wilks and his coverages. Doesn't show much but I've seen some trends.
A wide blend of calls ranging from your typical tampa 2, inverted cover 2, quarters with man under etc etc. The other common thing you'll routinely see are the 5 man pressures and some 33 looks. Saw Luke roll around quite a bit in a swap cover 3 shell even. A really interesting blend of pattern matching zones. The biggest take away I have is this - Wilks was spoiled by having Keuchly. Schob is a hell of a guy to have in coverage as well, but he isn't quite Luke. Can he be the 2.0 lite version? I believe so. But the Thomas Davis compliment isn't there on our end. I think having Wilks on board with this coaching staff puts an added priority on LB in the draft. (Devin White, come on down)
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This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type. HATE this pick.
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This Wilks guy rubbed players the wrong way in Ariz., stubborn, and the defensive Hue Jackson type. HATE this pick.
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When you play 1 gap up front - you better have good LBers. Wilks had that in Carolina and his defense was successful.
What I like about zone coverage (aside from DBs not turning their backs on the QB) - is it doesn't give opposing offenses the Ray Hortonesque Ghost towns to exploit. That knucklehead used to repeatedly leave an entire third of the field unmanned. So, what do you need to make zone coverage work? LBs and DBs that can close and tackle. Keuchly not only has elite 1st step instinct; but he's also well respected for his level of preparation. It seems like quite a few of his opponents said something along the line of "that guy knew every play we were about to run; and he was never wrong."
It wouldn't suck at all if we hired Wilks. No matter who we hire - we have to improve the LBer Corps, upgrade 1 starting DT and 1 starting DE as well as add depth/talent to the secondary. That said, we have the FA cake and draft volume to make it happen.
In order.
- Doesn't really matter the front, any defense calls for good players and most especially linebackers.
- Some of the pattern matching that Wilks seems to run is Horton-esque
- Agree on all points
edit: Not directly at you specifically Flugs, this is in general.
Trying to get a better handle on Wilks and his coverages. Doesn't show much but I've seen some trends.
A wide blend of calls ranging from your typical tampa 2, inverted cover 2, quarters with man under etc etc. The other common thing you'll routinely see are the 5 man pressures and some 33 looks. Saw Luke roll around quite a bit in a swap cover 3 shell even. A really interesting blend of pattern matching zones. The biggest take away I have is this - Wilks was spoiled by having Keuchly. Schob is a hell of a guy to have in coverage as well, but he isn't quite Luke. Can he be the 2.0 lite version? I believe so. But the Thomas Davis compliment isn't there on our end. I think having Wilks on board with this coaching staff puts an added priority on LB in the draft. (Devin White, come on down)
A wide blend of calls ranging from your typical tampa 2, inverted cover 2, quarters with man under etc etc. The other common thing you'll routinely see are the 5 man pressures and some 33 looks. Saw Luke roll around quite a bit in a swap cover 3 shell even. A really interesting blend of pattern matching zones. The biggest take away I have is this - Wilks was spoiled by having Keuchly. Schob is a hell of a guy to have in coverage as well, but he isn't quite Luke. Can he be the 2.0 lite version? I believe so. But the Thomas Davis compliment isn't there on our end.
I think Scho is ready for the challenge. He’s only been in the league 2 years, and plays like he’s an older veteran.
Now we can hope Collins will become more of a factor as the compliment to Joe in this scheme. I can see an LB being taken in the earlier rounds as well.
I am a big fan of zone schemes(with occasional man and man blitzes thrown in).
The sky is the limit for this defense in the coming years.
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I like the Wilks hire, but I do have a concern about Denzel Ward playing mostly Zone. He is more of a press man cover corner. I'm sure he can adapt but it's going to take some time. Most of the times balls were caught on him this year were when we were in zone coverage and he didn't get deep enough in a cover 2 or didn't see a guy coming into his zone. My other concern with Ward in zone coverage is those times that he does get deep enough they will throw underneath and he will have to come up and make a tackle. It's not that he can't make the tackle it's can he make the tackle while keeping his head out of the play to keep from getting yet another concussion
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Zombo said:
Wilks is official ...
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As is Stump
http://nfltraderumors.co/browns-hiring-former-jets-rbs-coach-stump-mitchell/
Probably means Lindley goes to QB coach
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Zombo said:
Wilks is official ...
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Like I said, I'm 50/50 on this hire but trying to hope for the best. Will be interesting to see the presser.
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Zombo said:
Wilks is official ...
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As is Stump
http://nfltraderumors.co/browns-hiring-former-jets-rbs-coach-stump-mitchell/
Probably means Lindley goes to QB coach
Wika shows him hired in Zona a day ago? & i honestly don't trust this woman Mrs. Anderson as any kind of source..
We also hired Packers O line coach ........
do we have confirming links on any of these? am seeing more candidates coming
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