Jarvis Landry headed to pro bowl
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Zombo said:
He was exactly what this team, and Baker needed. Now we need another piece across from him. Whether Calloway or Perriman can be that guy, I don't know.
I keep comparing Landry to Hines Ward, that is how I see him. Ward was never asked to be "the guy". They always had a big, fast home run hitter guy on the other side that you had to worry about while Hines killed you underneath ... Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace ... then moved right into Antonio Brown and now they have a stud Shuster, to replace him.
If you put a 1,000 yd, 15 ypc tall, fast guy on the other side, with Baker's arm, Landry will KILL people underneath.
If he is getting Pro Bowl respect now, just wait until we have a big gain hunter across from him.
Zombo
I like that you brought up Perriman, as I'm excited to see if he was merely a flash in the pan (which we've seen before), or if he can utilize his vast physical skills to become the player many people thought he'd be. When you go back and watch his receptions, and granted there weren't TOO many, you see a guy running hard and making difficult catches. Some of his catches weren't exactly "simple", and what's more, he made "big plays". That touchdown against the Broncos was absolutely HUGE, and that's what I call helping out your QB. Baker didn't have his best stuff against the Broncos, but I tell ya what, THAT throw was amazing. Perriman isn't signed to a contract, and the guy definitely resurrected his career to the point that SOMEBODY is going to offer him something, but man...I really hope he's back. I think it's pretty fair to say that he WANTS to be back with us, but we all know how difficult it is to sign to an unrestricted.
I like that you brought up Perriman, as I'm excited to see if he was merely a flash in the pan (which we've seen before), or if he can utilize his vast physical skills to become the player many people thought he'd be. When you go back and watch his receptions, and granted there weren't TOO many, you see a guy running hard and making difficult catches. Some of his catches weren't exactly "simple", and what's more, he made "big plays". That touchdown against the Broncos was absolutely HUGE, and that's what I call helping out your QB. Baker didn't have his best stuff against the Broncos, but I tell ya what, THAT throw was amazing. Perriman isn't signed to a contract, and the guy definitely resurrected his career to the point that SOMEBODY is going to offer him something, but man...I really hope he's back. I think it's pretty fair to say that he WANTS to be back with us, but we all know how difficult it is to sign to an unrestricted.
Sometimes, just a change of scenery can work wonders. The vast majority of us Browns fans would have been happy to buy Cam Erving a ticket out of town. Yet he's starting at LG for the Chiefs, and one game away from the Super Bowl. Go figure...
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I like that you brought up Perriman, as I'm excited to see if he was merely a flash in the pan (which we've seen before), or if he can utilize his vast physical skills to become the player many people thought he'd be. When you go back and watch his receptions, and granted there weren't TOO many, you see a guy running hard and making difficult catches. Some of his catches weren't exactly "simple", and what's more, he made "big plays". That touchdown against the Broncos was absolutely HUGE, and that's what I call helping out your QB. Baker didn't have his best stuff against the Broncos, but I tell ya what, THAT throw was amazing. Perriman isn't signed to a contract, and the guy definitely resurrected his career to the point that SOMEBODY is going to offer him something, but man...I really hope he's back. I think it's pretty fair to say that he WANTS to be back with us, but we all know how difficult it is to sign to an unrestricted.
Sometimes, just a change of scenery can work wonders. The vast majority of us Browns fans would have been happy to buy Cam Erving a ticket out of town. Yet he's starting at LG for the Chiefs, and one game away from the Super Bowl. Go figure...
Sometimes, just a change of scenery can work wonders. The vast majority of us Browns fans would have been happy to buy Cam Erving a ticket out of town. Yet he's starting at LG for the Chiefs, and one game away from the Super Bowl. Go figure...
That's a solid point. Makes me happy for the kid. I met him a few times in Tallahassee when he played in college, and he was always nice. I'm not sure how well he's actually playing, but it can't be too bad, huh? A change of scenery can do wonders, but a change of coaches and personnel can help too. Remember how so many people wanted to run Hubbard out of town? Remember how poorly our OL was doing in general? 33 sacks through 8 games, then 5 during the last 8? That number still just befuddles me. I can remember everyone on the board was terrified (me included) that Baker would die or get ruined. What a difference a new coaching staff makes, huh?
5 sacks and Baker only got "hit" 9 times in those last 8 games. 9 hits was obviously tops in the league, and the next closest team was something like 28 hits. I know I've mentioned that stat several times, but it just blows my mind so completely.
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I’m just blessed to say I was there in Tampa with my hands up in the air, signaling TOUCHDOWN for play #2, when Jarvis extended his left hand across the plane WHILE making a diving catch. Absolute baller.
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Bless em
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I’m just blessed to say I was there in Tampa with my hands up in the air, signaling TOUCHDOWN for play #2, when Jarvis extended his left hand across the plane WHILE making a diving catch. Absolute baller.
I’m just blessed to say I was there in Tampa with my hands up in the air, signaling TOUCHDOWN for play #2, when Jarvis extended his left hand across the plane WHILE making a diving catch. Absolute baller.
Awesome play to see live! That entire game was so very frustrating, right? We played like garbage the entire time, then we're down 14 with 7 minutes to go and here comes Baker. The Landry TD was absolutely sick, but don't forget about that 40 yard run he had! Lol! Little white boy was RUNNING, and then got drilled in the head, and THEN the refs said he was ALLOWED to be hit in the head. Wtf. And of course the 59 yard FG that killed us in OT. ARGH!
Best play I was in attendance for was the Callaway TD bomb on 4th and 5 from Tyrod. That was AWESOME! However, it was another frustrating game, too. Hehehehe
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I’m just blessed to say I was there in Tampa with my hands up in the air, signaling TOUCHDOWN for play #2, when Jarvis extended his left hand across the plane WHILE making a diving catch. Absolute baller.
Awesome play to see live! That entire game was so very frustrating, right? We played like garbage the entire time, then we're down 14 with 7 minutes to go and here comes Baker. The Landry TD was absolutely sick, but don't forget about that 40 yard run he had! Lol! Little white boy was RUNNING, and then got drilled in the head, and THEN the refs said he was ALLOWED to be hit in the head. Wtf. And of course the 59 yard FG that killed us in OT. ARGH!
Best play I was in attendance for was the Callaway TD bomb on 4th and 5 from Tyrod. That was AWESOME! However, it was another frustrating game, too. Hehehehe
Best play I was in attendance for was the Callaway TD bomb on 4th and 5 from Tyrod. That was AWESOME! However, it was another frustrating game, too. Hehehehe
It was after that game that I was extremely OK with the loss because I knew we had our franchise QB and that “somebody” was getting fired sooner or later.. lol
And that Callaway bomb from TT! hell yea! That was the loudest I yelled at my TV all season. However, I did go a bit cray when Greg Joseph sneaked the GW over the upright against Baltimore, that was a special W. “GET IN THEREEE!!!!!” Felt like I was roid raging lmao
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What I see there is a guy that is in the Top Ten in the league in that category. That is how. And, to me, if a guy is targeted and catches fewer of the passes thrown his way, it says to me: QB accuracy issues.
He’s nearly bottom in every category of those targeted most often. You can even extend it to the top 20 and 30 targeted and he is close to it bottom in all other categories.
I know our fans are desperate to win and change the culture but they’re a bit blind with this guy. He just isn’t very good.
He’s nearly bottom in every category of those targeted most often. You can even extend it to the top 20 and 30 targeted and he is close to it bottom in all other categories.
I know our fans are desperate to win and change the culture but they’re a bit blind with this guy. He just isn’t very good.
and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
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Stats aren't everything!! The attitude & work ethic he brought to us are MAJOR additions.
If you two can't see what a positive Landry is, you need to find another team to bitch about.
Mike
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Stats aren't everything!! The attitude & work ethic he brought to us are MAJOR additions.
If you two can't see what a positive Landry is, you need to find another team to bitch about.
Mike
Stats aren't everything!! The attitude & work ethic he brought to us are MAJOR additions.
If you two can't see what a positive Landry is, you need to find another team to bitch about.
Mike
well this is hard to quantify....but I would suggest we find someone who is paid a couple of mill per year to bring 'good attitude and work ethic' to us?
But it's not my money....as long as our cap situation is what it is, they can pay him what they want.
As a browns fan hopefully the passes will be distributed more to guys who are more efficient though.....
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You are correct about it being difficult to quantify, but Landry IS one of those players who raises the level of play of those around him & stats alone will not define that.
Mike
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He’s nearly bottom in every category of those targeted most often. You can even extend it to the top 20 and 30 targeted and he is close to it bottom in all other categories.
I know our fans are desperate to win and change the culture but they’re a bit blind with this guy. He just isn’t very good.
and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
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and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
I didn’t know your name was Baker
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and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
Lmao what a troll
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and this is what I've said when we signed him....he's at 6.5 yards per target. Thats terrible in the nfl in 2018/19.
We've had some bright spots this year....he was not one of them. We need to divert some of those targets to more productive guys.
Bad signing so far(as I predicted)...how much money do we still owe him where it is feasible to get out?
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
well makes sense as Baker doesnt seem like a guy who expects to get 6 yards per target or one td evey 40 targets
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You are correct about it being difficult to quantify, but Landry IS one of those players who raises the level of play of those around him & stats alone will not define that.
Mike
You are correct about it being difficult to quantify, but Landry IS one of those players who raises the level of play of those around him & stats alone will not define that.
Mike
how do we prove that? What is the evidence for this? Couldn't you just as easily say this about any player anyone wanted?
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His targets started to differ once Hue left. Baker doesn’t like Landry as much as this board does.
Lmao what a troll
Lmao what a troll
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
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Lmao what a troll
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
It’s easy to give your opinions stick, man. Especially how you go about it. “Hue deserves to get fired even if he never loses another game in his life” type shit, you sound like a hater half the time.
And at least we agreed on something then, as I wasn’t fond of Hyde as well and even went as far as to saying he was used as a rental until Chubb was ready to go.
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Lmao what a troll
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
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? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
Gtfo if you don’t know what “logic” and “sense” are. Stats are great but not everything. Your ass is backwards.
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Stats aren't everything!! The attitude & work ethic he brought to us are MAJOR additions.
If you two can't see what a positive Landry is, you need to find another team to bitch about.
Mike
well this is hard to quantify....but I would suggest we find someone who is paid a couple of mill per year to bring 'good attitude and work ethic' to us?
But it's not my money....as long as our cap situation is what it is, they can pay him what they want.
As a browns fan hopefully the passes will be distributed more to guys who are more efficient though.....
actual data..
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