MERGED THREADS---DA Vs. Quinn

? mz.

@drunkandstoopid said:
You should fricken enjoy the ride when you've got it rather than look for reasons to stop the momentum.

Uhmm...we were looking forward to enjoying the ride until the DA-led offense killed that momentum.

Drunkandstoopid

@inspecta said:
I'm confused. Oh wait, typical manwagoner who puts DA's starting status ahead of the team.

As far as I can tell, Lums is about the only one here putting DA's starting status ahead of the team. I'm OK with whomever wins the competition between BQ and DA. Are you?

chumpchange

"With the Indians out of the pennant race, Cleveland fans have their hearts set on a daily training-camp battle between Brady "The Hometown Kid" Quinn vs. Derek Anderson, who actually had the Browns a game away from the playoffs in 2007. This could be the most bizarre battle of the summer when considering new coach Eric Mangini was attempting to trade Quinn -- there were no serious takers -- in the off-season. What compounds this competition is that Anderson, who possesses a stronger arm, has never been the greatest of practice quarterbacks. He's a so-called gamer, going 10-5 in 2007. Quinn was 1-2 last season before being injured.

This entire competition could backfire on Mangini and first-year offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, who was Brett Favre's quarterback coach last season with the Jets. While sharing the practice snaps, neither Anderson, the favorite, nor Quinn will get enough work to make the Browns a winner this season. Prediction: Anderson implodes and Quinn starts opening day."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9806792...versy?GT1=39002

PlaygroundLegend

That just shows how Retarded the national media can be

Legacy Fan

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9806792...versy?GT1=39002
..that Anderson, who possesses a stronger arm, has never been the greatest of practice quarterbacks.

Then again, I've never been to a Browns practice, so how the fcuk would I know?

Are you kidding John? Practice is when Joey BigArm shines.

AZBrowns

I really, really hate this discussion because nothing new is ever stated.

There are VERY few people on this board and among the Browns fan base that have watched Derek Anderson as long as the fans here in Pac-10 country have. Talk to ANY scout, fan, coach, writer, media member etc., and they will tell you that Anderson is the same QB today as he was when he was a sophomore at Oregon State.

There is a reason he is close to the top of Pac-10 record books in terms of both TD's and INT's and has earned the same reputation as pro; Has always completed passes at less than a 60% clip; Usually beats up on the bad defenses and generally struggles against the good ones.

Basically, he is the Jose Canseco or Adam Dunn of QB's. All or nothing. Strikeout or home run. TD pass or INT.

Sometimes you are what you are, and I have seen enough of Derek Anderson over the past 7 years to tell you that he's probably not going to get any better on a consistent basis.

However, if he wins the job.... then Go Derek Anderson! Whatever.....

Let me clarify... I think Quinn will be the better QB, but if it turns out to be Anderson then that's fine by me too. i just don't see that happening.

? AdaM

@shepwrite said:
That article almost seemed like they accidentally switched the names or something. There were two offers including first round picks for Quinn and there were no takers for Anderson.
Weird.

Did you see the article he wrote about Mangini taking the rookies on the bus trip and what a fiasco it is?

That is the most laughable shit I've ever read.

AZBrowns

@drunkandstoopid said:
As far as I can tell, Lums is about the only one here putting DA's starting status ahead of the team. I'm OK with whomever wins the competition between BQ and DA. Are you?

Where is that douchebag anyway?

DeadWombat

Wait, is this the one DA vs BQ thread to rule them all? I predict at least 37 pages.

Gah... everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) about this debate has been said a million times already. Why can't we all leave this alone and wait for Mankok to make their decision come Preseason?

? mz.

@deadwombat said:
Why can't we all leave this alone and wait for Mankok to make their decision come Preseason?

1) Boredom.

2) Lumbergh.

3) See #2.

LCDawgFan13

@drunkandstoopid said:
It's easy to find blemishes if one looks for them. BQ will probably get his turn to be scrutinized at some point.
DA was soooooo horrible in '07....

That the Browns had their first 10 win season since the early 90s...

That they went from averaging 4.75 wins a year over 4 straight years to that 10 win season...

Blah, blah, blah....

You should fricken enjoy the ride when you've got it rather than look for reasons to stop the momentum.

Do you actually watch the games, or do you just look at the outcome to see if the Browns won or lost? In 2007, DA started off the season playing great! And then the team had to find ways to win in spite of him! The second half of the season was horrible! If he'd have played the entire season even remotely close to how he started it, then he wouldn't have been an alternate to the Pro Bowl to begin with. He would have been the starter! But...he fell apart...taking the team and all of the fans' hopes with him! If he can get back to early 2007 form, then great! I doubt you'll hear any true fans complaining that he is our QB. But, until then, he has to earn it. I think Quinn is the better fit for the way this team is going. However, if DA WINS the job in preseason, I will back him 100%...as I have stated numerous times.

Oh..I enjoyed the ride...right up until DA drove us right off a cliff! Not so enjoyable then! Since then, I'm waiting for a new ride to start. We're all waiting to find out who's driving...hoping he gets us to where we all want to go!

? Aloysius

Here's some film from last year:

It's amazing that a guy can go from looking that good one week to sucking that badly the next.

Dan in Florida

The inconsistancy is consistant (if that makes sense). The 10 game winning season (early half good play) was a long time ago.

I'm not saying Quinn will be better but I think we know what DA is by now. BTW, all teams have injuries and breakdowns through an NFL season that they have to play through.

I'm looking forward to Camp, and Most Importantly, Pre-Season games to see how this plays out.

TIME TO "MERGE THREADS" AGAIN

WPB Dawg Fan

@dan-in-florida said:
The inconsistancy is consistant (if that makes sense). The 10 game winning season (early half good play) was a long time ago.
I'm not saying Quinn will be better but I think we know what DA is by now. BTW, all teams have injuries and breakdowns through an NFL season that they have to play through.

I'm looking forward to Camp, and Most Importantly, Pre-Season games to see how this plays out.

TIME TO "MERGE AGAIN"

Exactly, I don't remember P.Manning blaming the injuries last year...and they had a TON...as they ended up IN THE PLAYOFFS!

Greythan

It's amazing that a guy can go from looking that good one week to sucking that badly the next.

Its part of what makes us question the guy.

I've noticed, and stated this before, that DA seems to struggle leading the team out of downward trends. i.e., once things start going bad, DA goes bad (often leading the way). In all fairness, its tough to be the guy who leads you through the dark back to the light, but that's a big part of being a QB. Is there any other position in team sports where this responsibility falls so directly?

AZBrowns

Aloysius said:
Here's some film from last year:

It's amazing that a guy can go from looking that good one week to sucking that badly the next.

Haven't you heard? That's everyone else's fault. Nope, DA was not responsible for his play AT ALL