Jarvis Landry headed to pro bowl
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Lmao what a troll
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
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? i took a similar amount of stick when we traded Hyde. I was delighted about it and everyone else....wasnt.
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
this forum, practically everyone here, is mostly divorced from actual data. Or actual data that is shown to be related to success winning(ie citing how many total catches landry is).
there is a lot of ass backwards thinking in here that doesn't go along with the nfl in 2019
Gtfo if you don’t know what “logic” and “sense” are. Stats are great but not everything. Your ass is backwards.
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Stats aren't everything!! The attitude & work ethic he brought to us are MAJOR additions.
If you two can't see what a positive Landry is, you need to find another team to bitch about.
Mike
well this is hard to quantify....but I would suggest we find someone who is paid a couple of mill per year to bring 'good attitude and work ethic' to us?
But it's not my money....as long as our cap situation is what it is, they can pay him what they want.
As a browns fan hopefully the passes will be distributed more to guys who are more efficient though.....
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Best play I was in attendance for was the Callaway TD bomb on 4th and 5 from Tyrod. That was AWESOME! However, it was another frustrating game, too. Hehehehe
It was after that game that I was extremely OK with the loss because I knew we had our franchise QB and that “somebody” was getting fired sooner or later.. lol
And that Callaway bomb from TT! hell yea! That was the loudest I yelled at my TV all season. However, I did go a bit cray when Greg Joseph sneaked the GW over the upright against Baltimore, that was a special W. “GET IN THEREEE!!!!!” Felt like I was roid raging lmao
It was after that game that I was extremely OK with the loss because I knew we had our franchise QB and that “somebody” was getting fired sooner or later.. lol
And that Callaway bomb from TT! hell yea! That was the loudest I yelled at my TV all season. However, I did go a bit cray when Greg Joseph sneaked the GW over the upright against Baltimore, that was a special W. “GET IN THEREEE!!!!!” Felt like I was roid raging lmao
LOL! Yes! I thought there was NO way it had any CHANCE of going through, and the announcer yelled, "IT WENT INNNNNN!" So awesome.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
It also proves the point that most players could give a shit about the pro bowl since they are backing out all the time.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
It also proves the point that most players could give a shit about the pro bowl since they are backing out all the time.
It also proves the point that most players could give a shit about the pro bowl since they are backing out all the time.
Two things Mark
1) I never respected Dan Marino for coming up with a phantom injury every year so he didn't have to play.
2) With the billions the NFL makes, what they pay the guys in the Pro Bowl is an insult. Make it $500k to the winners, and $250k to the losers, and I'd bet a lot more guys would show up.
& Yes I'm one of the few that actually watches the Pro Bowl every year.
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It also proves the point that most players could give a shit about the pro bowl since they are backing out all the time.
Two things Mark
1) I never respected Dan Marino for coming up with a phantom injury every year so he didn't have to play.
2) With the billions the NFL makes, what they pay the guys in the Pro Bowl is an insult. Make it $500k to the winners, and $250k to the losers, and I'd bet a lot more guys would show up.
& Yes I'm one of the few that actually watches the Pro Bowl every year.
& Yes I'm one of the few that actually watches the Pro Bowl every year.
So you're the one who's watching. Good to know. I'm sure I watched when I was a kid but I just have no interest at all. I might at least look to tune in this year since there will be some good looking orange helmets in the game for a change.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
Yes and no. Dorsey may trade or cut him when, or should we say if, money gets tight. Right now Landry makes sense but that doesn't mean he will be in Cleveland and fulfill the years of his deal.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
What makes you think that a possession wide receiver can’t be a star wide receiver.
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
dorsey is looking at it as a sunk cost vs future cost thing too...and looking at what we already paid him vs cap hit if traded(based on that bonus)....so it's not that simple. Dorsey could
very well be saying "yeah, I missed that one and wish we could get rid of him" but when looking at what we gave him in terms of up front signing bonus and how that is spread out over cap it may make sense to cut bait after next year and not now. Doesnt mean he would do it again
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Landry is a possession WR being paid like a star WR. Like others have said I don't care what they pay him until the cap becomes an issue. Good for him making the Pro Bowl but it also illustrates it isn't a measure of top tier talent in the league since his numbers are good at best.
What makes you think that a possession wide receiver can’t be a star wide receiver.
What makes you think that a possession wide receiver can’t be a star wide receiver.
probably the fact that everything about him(YAC, yp target, first down %) is low for any type of reciever.
His catches result in a first down less than most starters in the league. Thats not good.
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London and Taco are essentially parroting arguments we heard from some of the " experts" when the Landry trade rumors stated heating up. He's not that good and not worth the money. Either you buy that POV, or you don't. Dorsey didn't, and I'll side with John.
dorsey is looking at it as a sunk cost vs future cost thing too...and looking at what we already paid him vs cap hit if traded(based on that bonus)....so it's not that simple. Dorsey could
very well be saying "yeah, I missed that one and wish we could get rid of him" but when looking at what we gave him in terms of up front signing bonus and how that is spread out over cap it may make sense to cut bait after next year and not now. Doesnt mean he would do it again
dorsey is looking at it as a sunk cost vs future cost thing too...and looking at what we already paid him vs cap hit if traded(based on that bonus)....so it's not that simple. Dorsey could
very well be saying "yeah, I missed that one and wish we could get rid of him" but when looking at what we gave him in terms of up front signing bonus and how that is spread out over cap it may make sense to cut bait after next year and not now. Doesn't mean he would do it again
& I (and many other have said) did we know at the time we were overpaying for Landry? Certainly. We were also getting a three time Pro Bowl WR that was a 1,000 yard 100 catch guy for 4th and 7th round draft picks.... Javis also immediately became the best WR on the roster short of the totally unreliable, and soon to be suspended Josh Gordon....
Thing is, as the team improves- Dorsey may not have to overpay for talent. And when the option years start coming up for players like Garrett, the way Landry's contract is structured, he can be moved or cut without destroying the cap. If I'm reading Spotrac correctly, this season we'll have paid almost all of his guaranteed money.
I don't know why a few guys are so damn upset that this year (and only for this year, with tons of cap room) we're paying Jarvis Odell Beckham\ Julio Jones sort of money... If you wan't to look at it this way $5 million of Jarvis' salary is for being a great cheerleader, role model...
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What makes you think that a possession wide receiver can’t be a star wide receiver.
probably the fact that everything about him(YAC, yp target, first down %) is low for any type of reciever.
His catches result in a first down less than most starters in the league. Thats not good.
probably the fact that everything about him(YAC, yp target, first down %) is low for any type of reciever.
His catches result in a first down less than most starters in the league. Thats not good.
His history was that each catch actually did go for a first down. Not sure about this year haven’t seen no stats but all I know is that he made a hell of a lot of first downs with his catches and kept a lot of drivesgoing and scored a number of touchdowns and lead this team the way no one else has for years.
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probably the fact that everything about him(YAC, yp target, first down %) is low for any type of reciever.
His catches result in a first down less than most starters in the league. Thats not good.
His history was that each catch actually did go for a first down. Not sure about this year haven’t seen no stats but all I know is that he made a hell of a lot of first downs with his catches and kept a lot of drivesgoing and scored a number of touchdowns and lead this team the way no one else has for years.
His history was that each catch actually did go for a first down. Not sure about this year haven’t seen no stats but all I know is that he made a hell of a lot of first downs with his catches and kept a lot of drivesgoing and scored a number of touchdowns and lead this team the way no one else has for years.
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
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His history was that each catch actually did go for a first down. Not sure about this year haven’t seen no stats but all I know is that he made a hell of a lot of first downs with his catches and kept a lot of drivesgoing and scored a number of touchdowns and lead this team the way no one else has for years.
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
Probably a good time to close this thread after that final statement.. I took it as a gavel slam.. (No offense Gip) LOL
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
Probably a good time to close this thread after that final statement.. I took it as a gavel slam.. (No offense Gip) LOL
Probably a good time to close this thread after that final statement.. I took it as a gavel slam.. (No offense Gip) LOL
I really do try to be sort of objective. I pointed this out earlier to guys who are SO anti-Jarvis, where's the thread about Jamie Collins being statistically inferior? And making a ton of money in the process? IMHO, they've picked the wrong guy to target..
But-but-but, we're overpaying him!!!! Just like any team in the dumpster would have had to. How many players take a discount to play for a team with Super Bowl aspirations? Suh raked in $60 million guaranteed from the Dolphins, and is playing on a relatively cheap $16 million one year deal with the Rams...
Nah, I'll keep it open. Haters gonna hate...
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Probably a good time to close this thread after that final statement.. I took it as a gavel slam.. (No offense Gip) LOL
I really do try to be sort of objective. I pointed this out earlier to guys who are SO anti-Jarvis, where's the thread about Jamie Collins being statistically inferior? And making a ton of money in the process? IMHO, they've picked the wrong guy to target..
But-but-but, we're overpaying him!!!! Just like any team in the dumpster would have had to. How many players take a discount to play for a team with Super Bowl aspirations? Suh raked in $60 million guaranteed from the Dolphins, and is playing on a relatively cheap $16 million one year deal with the Rams...
Nah, I'll keep it open. Haters gonna hate...
I really do try to be sort of objective. I pointed this out earlier to guys who are SO anti-Jarvis, where's the thread about Jamie Collins being statistically inferior? And making a ton of money in the process? IMHO, they've picked the wrong guy to target..
But-but-but, we're overpaying him!!!! Just like any team in the dumpster would have had to. How many players take a discount to play for a team with Super Bowl aspirations? Suh raked in $60 million guaranteed from the Dolphins, and is playing on a relatively cheap $16 million one year deal with the Rams...
Nah, I'll keep it open. Haters gonna hate...
A symptom of being in the NFL gutter so long does that to people.. Some just enjoy being miserable.. I laugh at everything and everybody.. I figure whilt I'm alive.. I'm gonna smile and laugh my way through life.. Its how I've pretty much handled obstacles in stead of "Woe is Me"
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His history was that each catch actually did go for a first down. Not sure about this year haven’t seen no stats but all I know is that he made a hell of a lot of first downs with his catches and kept a lot of drivesgoing and scored a number of touchdowns and lead this team the way no one else has for years.
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
Ah, come on Gipper- that sort of info is just a couple mouse clicks away.... Landry averaged 12 ypc this year. But-but-but that's not anywhere close to Mike Evans 17 ypc.
Well Jarvis raggers, 12 ypc is more than Julian Edelman's 11.5 ypc- so go ask Tom Brady if he thinks HE sucks.
How many drive sustaining great catches did he make against the Chiefs? A bunch you say? Landry is our Edelman. Deal with it...
I am just on my phone so it’s not as easy for me to do the research like that as when I am on my desktop at the office
actual data..
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