Baker Recruiting Von Miller and OBJ
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If there going to give away a first round pick you go after Antonio brown. As far as free agents go I would go after trey flowers and earl Thomas
Fortunately we're not giving away a first round pick, and certainly not for Antonio Brown.
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yeah Im sure Elway is open to trading him ?
we would prob have to give up this year and next years #1 while also taking on his contract..which is, lemme see here..
Current Contract
Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap
NumberCap % Dead Money & Cap SavingsCut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtensionProrated Roster Workout Other Total $72,500,000 $33,800,000 $6,000,000 $2,000,000 $0 $114,500,000 2016 27 $2,000,000 $8,000,000 $3,400,000 $6,000,000 $0 $0 $11,500,000 7.4% 2017 28 $16,500,000 $16,500,000 $3,400,000 $0 $0 $0 $20,000,000 12.0% 2018 29 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $10,125,000 5.7% 2019 30 $17,000,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,125,000 13.2% $19,375,000$5,750,0002020 31 $17,500,000 $7,625,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $25,625,000 12.8% $11,750,000$13,875,0002021 32 $17,500,000 $4,125,000 $0 $500,000 $0 $22,125,000 -- $4,125,000$18,000,000Plus he's a 34 OLB'er, no fit.
You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips.
You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips.
Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future.
Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.
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You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips.
Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future.
Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.
Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future.
Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.
I'm not arguing in favor of Miller, I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising Will edge rusher in Avery that provides great cost/performance value.
Just relating that Miller, despite his current role, is more than capable of finding an impact spot in our current defense... At the expense of a promising rookie snap count however.
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They say this upcoming draft is loaded with defensive talent. Von Miller is getting old & Beckham is a girl in disguise.
Stick to the draft: LT, WR, DL, CB
I believe in Dorsey. He’s respected & coveted around the league & he’s building it for the long haul.
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Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future.
Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.
I'm not arguing in favor of Miller, I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising Will edge rusher in Avery that provides great cost/performance value.
Just relating that Miller, despite his current role, is more than capable of finding an impact spot in our current defense... At the expense of a promising rookie snap count however.
I'm not arguing in favor of Miller, I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising
I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard?
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I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard?
Chris Smith comes to mind.
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You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips.
Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future.
Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.
Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher.
^^^^^
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I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard?
Chris Smith comes to mind.
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Not a 34 package edge rusher tho right?
He can do a bit of both.
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Not a 34 package edge rusher tho right?
He can do a bit of both.
He can do a bit of both.
Anybody can stand up at the line and either rush or drop....doesnt mean they're any good at it. Williams stood up zettel during the year....one of the reasons im not mad williams is gone.
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Anybody can stand up at the line and either rush or drop....doesnt mean they're any good at it. Williams stood up zettel during the year....one of the reasons im not mad williams is gone.
Cool. To come back around to the original point - Von isn't a fit in Cleveland not because of some scheme fit. But involving a log jam at the position that would reduce snaps for a younger, promising player.
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Anybody can stand up at the line and either rush or drop....doesnt mean they're any good at it. Williams stood up zettel during the year....one of the reasons im not mad williams is gone.
Cool. To come back around to the original point - Von isn't a fit in Cleveland not because of some scheme fit. But involving a log jam at the position that would reduce snaps for a younger, promising player.
Cool. To come back around to the original point - Von isn't a fit in Cleveland not because of some scheme fit. But involving a log jam at the position that would reduce snaps for a younger, promising player.
Even if we didnt have genard, id be hesitant at his age. We need a bigger 5T type of 43LDE to shore up our run D. That and genard are a better compliment than paying 20m to a guy who's salary essenyially demands playing minutes im not sure wouldnt wesr him down too much. He's protected in Denver from doing too much heavy lifting.
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