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  • hence my original reply...

    what-if the future...sure.  what-if the past is a useless thought exercise.

  • hence my original reply...

    what-if the future...sure.  what-if the past is a useless thought exercise.

    @choco said:

    hence my original reply...

    what-if the future...sure.  what-if the past is a useless thought exercise.

    I agree.

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  • My head hurts now.

  • look toward the future because of last year:

  • Looking back...we could have had both easily.  No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3.  Im not disappointed with what we have...just having some fun.  If anything...after a few years their contracts would be so expensive we wouldnt have been able to maintain it.

    Thats one thing about Brady...he never bankrupted his team so they could stay competitive like flacco did

    @kvoethe said:

    No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3

    False.  Pats were willing to trade up to 2 w NYG to take him, and Jets had him as their top pick.

  • @kvoethe said:

    No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3

    False.  Pats were willing to trade up to 2 w NYG to take him, and Jets had him as their top pick.

    @unsympathetic said:

    False.  Pats were willing to trade up to 2 w NYG to take him, and Jets had him as their top pick.

    Really? I did not know that, wgere'd u read that?

  • Droooooooolllll

    Discuss

    @kvoethe said:

    Droooooooolllll

    Discuss

    I think Baker was the #1 target of many.  He wouldn't have lasted to #4.   It's not like Chubb didn't add something.

  • Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

  • Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    @kvoethe said:

    Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    Imagine if we had drafted Aaron Rodgers and Barry Sanders and Ladanian Tomlinson and Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor and JJ Watt.

    Discuss.

    Idiotic.

  • @kvoethe said:

    Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    Imagine if we had drafted Aaron Rodgers and Barry Sanders and Ladanian Tomlinson and Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor and JJ Watt.

    Discuss.

    Idiotic.

    @mark-o said:

    Imagine if we had drafted Aaron Rodgers and Barry Sanders and Ladanian Tomlinson and Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor and JJ Watt.

    Discuss.

    Idiotic.

    Idiotic are people who dont embrace their imagination.

    Mr Rogers taught you that a long time ago

  • Ok...so lets play your fairy tale game.   Let's imagine drafting every player who was ever good.  The Browns would never lose a game and they'd win the super bowl 300 years in a row until the league folded out of boredom. 

  • Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

  • Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    awwwwww...poor baby...no one wants to play your stupid fantasy and pointed out why it (A) wouldn't have happened and (b) why the combination of Mayfield, Ward and Chubb is better so you get a sandy diaper and announce you're leaving.     

    Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

  • Imagine if we weren't fuddy duddies...then we'd just be assholes!!!  LOL

    Mike

  • Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    Shake and Bake would have made Cleveland a Superbowl Favorite... last year. 

    Of course, we would still be strapped with Clueless Jackson and company. 

    I'm pleasantly surprised with Chubb, he looked solid and had a nice rookie year contending with Hyde and Johnson. 

    Although many believe that we need another powerback to complement Chubb and give him a breather... Baker Barkley and Chubb would have been amazing. Hoping Ward stays healthy and can prove he was worth trading the fantasy above for a shutdown corner.  

  • Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    @kvoethe said:

    Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    One poster that's living in the past here, and not a very realistic one too....  Your initial premise is bad even by the coulda shoulda game..  We Coulda drafted Aaron Rodgers, and a bunch of other Pro Bowl players, instead of the bums we did take.. And not even had to give up draft picks, like your fantasy would have entailed... 

    @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    Where you getting that crap from? We're not being negative, just realistic...  Can't stand the heat because the majority here think your premise is straight out of fantasyland? So if you don't like it here- go look up Ghoolie on FaceBook, (I'll happily supply his real name). I'm sure he's getting lonely talking to himself- and would love to up his like total when he's spewing his bullcrap.  

    Sorry if the rest of us aren't playing the fantasy game that we could have had both Mayfield and Barkley...  We've already said Mayfield wasn't going to be there for us at #4. That's not some fantasy game, that's pretty much what the reports said. The only way to insure both was to move up to #2- that would have cost us our #4, the high second round pick, and our #1 this year. 

    Giving that much up to get Saquon when we got Chubb in the second round IS NUTS. Or you want me to tell you again in the REAL WORLD of either\or, you always take a swing at a franchise quarterback before you think about drafting a running back.  Jim Brown is still considered the GOAT running back by many- and he won exactly one Championship. History shows- and go reread my post pointing it out, a HOF running back isn't getting you to the Super Bowl by himself... 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    Shake and Bake would have made Cleveland a Superbowl Favorite... last year. 

    Of course, we would still be strapped with Clueless Jackson and company. 

    I'm pleasantly surprised with Chubb, he looked solid and had a nice rookie year contending with Hyde and Johnson. 

    Although many believe that we need another powerback to complement Chubb and give him a breather... Baker Barkley and Chubb would have been amazing. Hoping Ward stays healthy and can prove he was worth trading the fantasy above for a shutdown corner.  

    @poeticg said:

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    Shake and Bake would have made Cleveland a Superbowl Favorite... last year. 

    Of course, we would still be strapped with Clueless Jackson and company. 

    I'm pleasantly surprised with Chubb, he looked solid and had a nice rookie year contending with Hyde and Johnson. 

    Although many believe that we need another powerback to complement Chubb and give him a breather... Baker Barkley and Chubb would have been amazing. Hoping Ward stays healthy and can prove he was worth trading the fantasy above for a shutdown corner.  

    Congrats Po, you did nail how good Saquon was going to be- much to my surprise...  But please be realistic- even with both, we weren't going to the Super Bowl, too many other missing pieces... Playoffs first... Then let's think about the Super Bowl...  To get there, sometimes just being good isn't enough, you have to get lucky. If you followed that other thread- you can easily say the Saints should have been in the Super Bowl not the Rams, if they hadn't gotten screwed by a bad call. Just think how we would have felt if that no call had happened to the Browns instead of the Saints.... 

  • My head hurts now.

    @5150k9 said:

    My head hurts now.

    ?.... iZr.gif    RMR0.gif   multiple post draft reports confirmed...No Chance!!          

  • @kvoethe said:

    Buncha fuddy duddies in this place

    One poster that's living in the past here, and not a very realistic one too....  Your initial premise is bad even by the coulda shoulda game..  We Coulda drafted Aaron Rodgers, and a bunch of other Pro Bowl players, instead of the bums we did take.. And not even had to give up draft picks, like your fantasy would have entailed... 

    @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    Where you getting that crap from? We're not being negative, just realistic...  Can't stand the heat because the majority here think your premise is straight out of fantasyland? So if you don't like it here- go look up Ghoolie on FaceBook, (I'll happily supply his real name). I'm sure he's getting lonely talking to himself- and would love to up his like total when he's spewing his bullcrap.  

    Sorry if the rest of us aren't playing the fantasy game that we could have had both Mayfield and Barkley...  We've already said Mayfield wasn't going to be there for us at #4. That's not some fantasy game, that's pretty much what the reports said. The only way to insure both was to move up to #2- that would have cost us our #4, the high second round pick, and our #1 this year. 

    Giving that much up to get Saquon when we got Chubb in the second round IS NUTS. Or you want me to tell you again in the REAL WORLD of either\or, you always take a swing at a franchise quarterback before you think about drafting a running back.  Jim Brown is still considered the GOAT running back by many- and he won exactly one Championship. History shows- and go reread my post pointing it out, a HOF running back isn't getting you to the Super Bowl by himself... 

    @hoorta said:

    So if you don't like it here- go look up Ghoolie on FaceBook, (I'll happily supply his real name). I'm sure he's getting lonely talking to himself- and would love to up his like total when he's spewing his bullcrap.   

    The thought of Ghoolie relegated to spewing nonsense on Facebook genuinely makes me happy. 

    It's a fitting end.