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  • They acknowledged they met with him one week before the draft.. if you've ever been to a Belichick press conference, that's as close as you'll ever get.

  • @kvoethe said:

    Screw this place...be back at draft time.  I can just be like ghoolie and say how everything sucks d1cks and our coaching staff are coffee fetchers and scream black tarkenton.  Fits the mentality of this offseason

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    Shake and Bake would have made Cleveland a Superbowl Favorite... last year. 

    Of course, we would still be strapped with Clueless Jackson and company. 

    I'm pleasantly surprised with Chubb, he looked solid and had a nice rookie year contending with Hyde and Johnson. 

    Although many believe that we need another powerback to complement Chubb and give him a breather... Baker Barkley and Chubb would have been amazing. Hoping Ward stays healthy and can prove he was worth trading the fantasy above for a shutdown corner.  

    @poeticg said:

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    How is that you what if clowns can't realize that if you take Barkley at #1 there is no guarantee that Mayfield is still sitting there at 4.   Patriots and Jets reportedly both wanted him.  Who's to say the Giants don't take him with Barkley off the board?  

    Once again...slower for some of you to understand...   Mayfield+Ward+Chubb is better than Barkley+whothehellknowswho'sgoingtobethereat4.   Chubb had a great rookie season and that came in really only playing in 11 or games.  

    Barkley had a nice solid rookie season.  As asked in another thread, when was the last time a running back carried a team to a championship without a great QB? 

  • @poeticg said:

    I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

    It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

    How is that you what if clowns can't realize that if you take Barkley at #1 there is no guarantee that Mayfield is still sitting there at 4.   Patriots and Jets reportedly both wanted him.  Who's to say the Giants don't take him with Barkley off the board?  

    Once again...slower for some of you to understand...   Mayfield+Ward+Chubb is better than Barkley+whothehellknowswho'sgoingtobethereat4.   Chubb had a great rookie season and that came in really only playing in 11 or games.  

    Barkley had a nice solid rookie season.  As asked in another thread, when was the last time a running back carried a team to a championship without a great QB? 

    @mark-o said:

    Barkley had a nice solid rookie season.  As asked in another thread, when was the last time a running back carried a team to a championship without a great QB? 

    Giants are on the up and up...won 2 more games than last year, still drafting top 10 ?

  • Imagine if we had a board where we did not have threads that said "Imagine if we had drafted so and so" at any point in history. 

    I think that if we looked at every single Browns draft going back to when they merged into the NFL in 1950....we could find a "What if"  draft in there.

    I mean, we could start with the 50s,  why didn't we take:

    1950 Ernie Stautner HOF over Ken Carpenter

    1951 Dick Stanfel or Bill George both HOF over Ken Konz

    1952 Gino Marchetti HOF over  Harry Agannis

    1953 Why didn't we keep Doug Atkins instead of trading him for a bag of beans

    1954 RAymond Berry HOF over Jon Bauer

    1955 Rosey Grier over Kurt Burris

    1956  Forrest Gregg or Sam Huff over Preston Carpenter

    1957....We took Jim Brown.....so shut the fuck up

    1958 Jerry Kramer over Jim Shofner

    1959  Why didn't we keep Dick LeBeau instead of trading him.

    I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

  • Imagine if we had a board where we did not have threads that said "Imagine if we had drafted so and so" at any point in history. 

    I think that if we looked at every single Browns draft going back to when they merged into the NFL in 1950....we could find a "What if"  draft in there.

    I mean, we could start with the 50s,  why didn't we take:

    1950 Ernie Stautner HOF over Ken Carpenter

    1951 Dick Stanfel or Bill George both HOF over Ken Konz

    1952 Gino Marchetti HOF over  Harry Agannis

    1953 Why didn't we keep Doug Atkins instead of trading him for a bag of beans

    1954 RAymond Berry HOF over Jon Bauer

    1955 Rosey Grier over Kurt Burris

    1956  Forrest Gregg or Sam Huff over Preston Carpenter

    1957....We took Jim Brown.....so shut the fuck up

    1958 Jerry Kramer over Jim Shofner

    1959  Why didn't we keep Dick LeBeau instead of trading him.

    I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

    @the-gipper said:

    I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

    Please don't. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

    Please don't. 

    @mark-o said:

    Please don't. 

    Sure, why not? It's part of the fun reason we eventually wound up going 0-16. I'll play Gipper's game for one year. Justin Gilbert or- ahem. Take your pick. Kahlil Mack, Aaron Donald, or Odell-Beckham. How's that for some crappy talent evaluation? Then we doubled down and took Johnny CFL on top of it. Um, instead of DeMarcus Lawrence or Derek Carr. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

    Please don't. 

    @mark-o said:

    Please don't. 

    I love it when you beg. 

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  • I'll only make take someone that was available 16 picks later... Tom Brady instead of Spergon Wynn in 2000. 

  • Looking back...we could have had both easily.  No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3.  Im not disappointed with what we have...just having some fun.  If anything...after a few years their contracts would be so expensive we wouldnt have been able to maintain it.

    Thats one thing about Brady...he never bankrupted his team so they could stay competitive like flacco did

    @kvoethe said:

    Looking back...we could have had both easily.  No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3.  Im not disappointed with what we have...just having some fun.  If anything...after a few years their contracts would be so expensive we wouldnt have been able to maintain it.

    Thats one thing about Brady...he never bankrupted his team so they could stay competitive like flacco did

    He may have gone 2 or 3, so if he's your man, take him.

    As far as his contract goes, that is why you build as fast as you can NOW while you have him on his rookie contract. When it does come up, I'm sure he'll play ball, like Brady, because he wants to compete and he should have a shit ton of endorsement money coming in.

    Let's face it, Flacco had nothing going for him other than that one postseason, the only thing he could endorse would maybe be an Ernie doll.

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  • "suppose, like, imagine if we could have traded all our future first round draft picks for the next ten years,

    and then we had the first five picks in last years draft, and then, like, imagine we would have..."

    never mind, I'm just not good at this crap.

  • "suppose, like, imagine if we could have traded all our future first round draft picks for the next ten years,

    and then we had the first five picks in last years draft, and then, like, imagine we would have..."

    never mind, I'm just not good at this crap.

    @calfoxwc said:

    "suppose, like, imagine if we could have traded all our future first round draft picks for the next ten years,

    and then we had the first five picks in last years draft, and then, like, imagine we would have..."

    never mind, I'm just not good at this crap.

    Nope....you're just an old fuddy duddy.   Have to be a Madden playing schmoe to want to continually live in what if fantasy land.

  • How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

    I would have took that draft night 

  • How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

    I would have took that draft night 

    @leebladedawg said:

    How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

    I would have took that draft night 

    Something maybe you can relate to:  this is like saying  "Imagine if I were from Liverpool and grew up in the 50s, and could play guitar.....maybe I could have become one of The Beatles...or at least part of Gerry and the Pacemakers.  

    See how absurd all this speculation is?

  • How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

    I would have took that draft night 

    @leebladedawg said:

    How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

    I would have took that draft night 

    Nope, it's the original poster fantasizing they both would have been available at #1 and #4. There were links to articles in this thread showing Mayfield would have certainly been taken at #3 by the Jets, if not at #2 by the Giants had we drafted Saquon at #1.

    You have to draft a quarterback first if you don't have one, regardless of how great Barkley potentially was going to be. 

  • So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

    This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

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  • I agree with others that Mayfield, Ward and Chubb seems like a better deal even though I will not put Chubb in Barkley's category...

  • So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

    This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

    @clevfan4life said:

    So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

    This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

    You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

  • @clevfan4life said:

    So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

    This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

    You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

    @hoorta said:

    You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

    This is one of those comments that you don't know if it is a compliment or just the opposite...

  • @hoorta said:

    You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

    This is one of those comments that you don't know if it is a compliment or just the opposite...

    @nero said:

    This is one of those comments that you don't know if it is a compliment or just the opposite...

    Maybe a little of both. 🙂 Mostly, the timing was bad. After the Combine, look for all kinds of crazy draft talk and trades to pop up.