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Barkley beats Mayfield for Offensive Rookie of the Year

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  • At first I was a bit angry at this one but Barkley did have very good numbers.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    Honestly a part of me is glad he didn't win. You know hes gonna come for blood because of the snub. 

    @jrb12711 said:

    Honestly a part of me is glad he didn't win. You know hes gonna come for blood because of the snub. 

    Fuel for the fucking fire. 

  • jcam222J jcam222

    @kvoethe said:

    Trying to be objective and not a homer

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RB's in the NFL this year, Barkley had over 2000 yards from scrim, 15 TD's and 90+ receptions, 2nd in the league in rushing, 3rd in rec for RB's

    Baker was what the 22nd best QB in the league via Total QBR, 24th in completion %, 17th in yards, 11th in TD's, 5th most in INT's, 11th in YPA, 18th in rating

    So although he was our mvp...he probably wasnt the tru rookie of the year.

    Eyes opened ?

    I have a much different take. Barkley was awarded 1 rookie of the week. Mayfield was awarded 7! Honeslty one shouldnt have to make argument beyond that. That said Barkley was ONE OF THREE rookie RB in history with over 2000 yards total offense. Mayfield is THE ONLY rookie QB in history to throw 27 TD’s and he did it in 14 games beating out full seasons of Peyton and Wilson. The voting shouldn’t have been close, should have been a Baker landslide. 

    @jcam222 said:

    I have a much different take. Barkley was awarded 1 rookie of the week. Mayfield was awarded 7! Honeslty one shouldnt have to make argument beyond that. That said Barkley was ONE OF THREE rookie RB in history with over 2000 yards total offense. Mayfield is THE ONLY rookie QB in history to throw 27 TD’s and he did it in 14 games beating out full seasons of Peyton and Wilson. The voting shouldn’t have been close, should have been a Baker landslide. 

    Hell I am not sure that I would trade Nick Chubb for Saquon Barkley. If you took their pro Rata share of production chub may be just as good given the amount of time each of them saw. 

    👍 ❤

  • I realized that as much as I hated it...Rookie of the year is NOT MVP.

    That helps me be less furious haha

  • 43.5 < 83.7.  

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  • i thought it was complete bullshit by espn to announce the winner before the show came on

    side note: the foo fighter concert was pretty damn cool

  • While it's obvious that Baker will be far more valuable to his team vs Barkley will ever be...

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RBs this year. Baker, while he was the best rookie QB, was not even a top 8 QB this year. I would say its fair to say that Barkley had a better rookie campaign. Now had Baker played and started all 16 games, this may have been Baker by a landslide.

    And for those saying that Chubb was the better RB...lol c'mon. That Giants OL is just embarassing. Give credit where it's due: Barkley is a generational talent at his position. And from the looks of it, so is Baker.

  • S secondwave

    While it's obvious that Baker will be far more valuable to his team vs Barkley will ever be...

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RBs this year. Baker, while he was the best rookie QB, was not even a top 8 QB this year. I would say its fair to say that Barkley had a better rookie campaign. Now had Baker played and started all 16 games, this may have been Baker by a landslide.

    And for those saying that Chubb was the better RB...lol c'mon. That Giants OL is just embarassing. Give credit where it's due: Barkley is a generational talent at his position. And from the looks of it, so is Baker.

    @secondwave said:

    While it's obvious that Baker will be far more valuable to his team vs Barkley will ever be...

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RBs this year. Baker, while he was the best rookie QB, was not even a top 8 QB this year. I would say its fair to say that Barkley had a better rookie campaign. Now had Baker played and started all 16 games, this may have been Baker by a landslide.

    And for those saying that Chubb was the better RB...lol c'mon. That Giants OL is just embarassing. Give credit where it's due: Barkley is a generational talent at his position. And from the looks of it, so is Baker.

    Barkley IS amazing - speedwise, especially - but Nick Chubb is close to that in effectiveness - what Chubb accomplished after not started some games early on - is amazing. Wasn't it about the 7th game, that he got to start?

      Barkley didn't have to play the ratbirds and squaler defenses twice, the Browns offense struggled until dead weight Hue got booted, and only then did it take off. Not bad for a second round pick, after getting Baker and Ward in the first round.

    I could be wrong, but Barkley's longest run from los was 68 yards, and he was caught. Obviously, Nick Chubb's longest was 92 yards, and he was not caught, went for a TD.

    Nick Chubb leads all rookies in yards after contact per carry. pic.twitter.com/WDTR2lCX28

    — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 8, 2018

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/nick-chubb-earned-a-higher-pff-grade-than-saquon-barkley-as-rookie-rbs/

    Sure, Barkley is a generational talent, but the cost-effectiveness of getting a rb that had some better stats, etc...

    is priceless. Nick Chubb is also the real deal.

    S The GipperT 2 Replies
  • C calfoxwc

    @secondwave said:

    While it's obvious that Baker will be far more valuable to his team vs Barkley will ever be...

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RBs this year. Baker, while he was the best rookie QB, was not even a top 8 QB this year. I would say its fair to say that Barkley had a better rookie campaign. Now had Baker played and started all 16 games, this may have been Baker by a landslide.

    And for those saying that Chubb was the better RB...lol c'mon. That Giants OL is just embarassing. Give credit where it's due: Barkley is a generational talent at his position. And from the looks of it, so is Baker.

    Barkley IS amazing - speedwise, especially - but Nick Chubb is close to that in effectiveness - what Chubb accomplished after not started some games early on - is amazing. Wasn't it about the 7th game, that he got to start?

      Barkley didn't have to play the ratbirds and squaler defenses twice, the Browns offense struggled until dead weight Hue got booted, and only then did it take off. Not bad for a second round pick, after getting Baker and Ward in the first round.

    I could be wrong, but Barkley's longest run from los was 68 yards, and he was caught. Obviously, Nick Chubb's longest was 92 yards, and he was not caught, went for a TD.

    Nick Chubb leads all rookies in yards after contact per carry. pic.twitter.com/WDTR2lCX28

    — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 8, 2018

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/nick-chubb-earned-a-higher-pff-grade-than-saquon-barkley-as-rookie-rbs/

    Sure, Barkley is a generational talent, but the cost-effectiveness of getting a rb that had some better stats, etc...

    is priceless. Nick Chubb is also the real deal.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Barkley IS amazing - speedwise, especially - but Nick Chubb is close to that in effectiveness - what Chubb accomplished after not started some games early on - is amazing. Wasn't it about the 7th game, that he got to start?

      Barkley didn't have to play the ratbirds and squaler defenses twice, the Browns offense struggled until dead weight Hue got booted, and only then did it take off. Not bad for a second round pick, after getting Baker and Ward in the first round.

    I could be wrong, but Barkley's longest run from los was 68 yards, and he was caught. Obviously, Nick Chubb's longest was 92 yards, and he was not caught, went for a TD.

    Nick Chubb leads all rookies in yards after contact per carry. pic.twitter.com/WDTR2lCX28

    — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 8, 2018

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/nick-chubb-earned-a-higher-pff-grade-than-saquon-barkley-as-rookie-rbs/

    Sure, Barkley is a generational talent, but the cost-effectiveness of getting a rb that had some better stats, etc...

    is priceless. Nick Chubb is also the real deal.

    Not disputing that, I think Chubb will end up having a great career. But look at the offensive pieces (particularly QB and OL) both running backs had. Barkley with Baker and this very underrated OL would have put up, imo, better stats.

    Not a complaint from me though, I'd take Denzel Ward (although his injuries are starting to become a concern for me given his frame) and Chubb together over Barkley.

    👍
  • C calfoxwc

    @secondwave said:

    While it's obvious that Baker will be far more valuable to his team vs Barkley will ever be...

    Barkley was one of the 3 best RBs this year. Baker, while he was the best rookie QB, was not even a top 8 QB this year. I would say its fair to say that Barkley had a better rookie campaign. Now had Baker played and started all 16 games, this may have been Baker by a landslide.

    And for those saying that Chubb was the better RB...lol c'mon. That Giants OL is just embarassing. Give credit where it's due: Barkley is a generational talent at his position. And from the looks of it, so is Baker.

    Barkley IS amazing - speedwise, especially - but Nick Chubb is close to that in effectiveness - what Chubb accomplished after not started some games early on - is amazing. Wasn't it about the 7th game, that he got to start?

      Barkley didn't have to play the ratbirds and squaler defenses twice, the Browns offense struggled until dead weight Hue got booted, and only then did it take off. Not bad for a second round pick, after getting Baker and Ward in the first round.

    I could be wrong, but Barkley's longest run from los was 68 yards, and he was caught. Obviously, Nick Chubb's longest was 92 yards, and he was not caught, went for a TD.

    Nick Chubb leads all rookies in yards after contact per carry. pic.twitter.com/WDTR2lCX28

    — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 8, 2018

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/nick-chubb-earned-a-higher-pff-grade-than-saquon-barkley-as-rookie-rbs/

    Sure, Barkley is a generational talent, but the cost-effectiveness of getting a rb that had some better stats, etc...

    is priceless. Nick Chubb is also the real deal.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Barkley IS amazing - speedwise, especially - but Nick Chubb is close to that in effectiveness - what Chubb accomplished after not started some games early on - is amazing. Wasn't it about the 7th game, that he got to start?

      Barkley didn't have to play the ratbirds and squaler defenses twice, the Browns offense struggled until dead weight Hue got booted, and only then did it take off. Not bad for a second round pick, after getting Baker and Ward in the first round.

    I could be wrong, but Barkley's longest run from los was 68 yards, and he was caught. Obviously, Nick Chubb's longest was 92 yards, and he was not caught, went for a TD.

    Nick Chubb leads all rookies in yards after contact per carry. pic.twitter.com/WDTR2lCX28

    — Pro Football Focus (@PFF) December 8, 2018

    https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/03/nick-chubb-earned-a-higher-pff-grade-than-saquon-barkley-as-rookie-rbs/

    Sure, Barkley is a generational talent, but the cost-effectiveness of getting a rb that had some better stats, etc...

    is priceless. Nick Chubb is also the real deal.

    I posted elsewhere each players stats.  As far as rushing, Chubb was just as good or better than Barkley.   Barkley did have a big edge when it came to his being used in the passing game.

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