Beatoff O'Rourke
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Socialism is an economic and political theory that has the means of production controlled by the community.
Come on now no one anywhere in the world is talking about a pure system of government.
I doubt either Sanders or Cortez are going to call for the government to completely controlling the means of production.
WSS
Come on now no one anywhere in the world is talking about a pure system of government.
I doubt either Sanders or Cortez are going to call for the government to completely controlling the means of production.
WSS
And that's the problem. Everyone argues against the worst form of economic examples. Intelligent people look at the economic ideal and then apply practical policy that avoids the pitfalls that other governments have made.
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Come on now no one anywhere in the world is talking about a pure system of government.
I doubt either Sanders or Cortez are going to call for the government to completely controlling the means of production.
WSS
And that's the problem. Everyone argues against the worst form of economic examples. Intelligent people look at the economic ideal and then apply practical policy that avoids the pitfalls that other governments have made.
And that's the problem. Everyone argues against the worst form of economic examples. Intelligent people look at the economic ideal and then apply practical policy that avoids the pitfalls that other governments have made.
There is nothing inherently wrong or evil about almost any form of government I can imagine. Human nature on the other hand?
WSS
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And that's the problem. Everyone argues against the worst form of economic examples. Intelligent people look at the economic ideal and then apply practical policy that avoids the pitfalls that other governments have made.
There is nothing inherently wrong or evil about almost any form of government I can imagine. Human nature on the other hand?
WSS
There is nothing inherently wrong or evil about almost any form of government I can imagine. Human nature on the other hand?
WSS
Agreed but to suggest the theory of Socialism supports opening boarders to give free handouts to illegal immigrants is simply not true. I'd wager that most socialist countries, nationalism and isolationism is more common than an open free for all.
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There is nothing inherently wrong or evil about almost any form of government I can imagine. Human nature on the other hand?
WSS
Agreed but to suggest the theory of Socialism supports opening boarders to give free handouts to illegal immigrants is simply not true. I'd wager that most socialist countries, nationalism and isolationism is more common than an open free for all.
Agreed but to suggest the theory of Socialism supports opening boarders to give free handouts to illegal immigrants is simply not true. I'd wager that most socialist countries, nationalism and isolationism is more common than an open free for all.
Most successful socialist countries oh, it appears to me, have been that way for a long time I do not seem to having an extremely large destitute violent and unproductive underclass.
And he does support United States benefits for illegals so there's that. People in the United States on the Dole compared to the Bottom Rung of society in El Salvador Etc would seem like kings in that country.
WSS
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Agreed but to suggest the theory of Socialism supports opening boarders to give free handouts to illegal immigrants is simply not true. I'd wager that most socialist countries, nationalism and isolationism is more common than an open free for all.
Most successful socialist countries oh, it appears to me, have been that way for a long time I do not seem to having an extremely large destitute violent and unproductive underclass.
And he does support United States benefits for illegals so there's that. People in the United States on the Dole compared to the Bottom Rung of society in El Salvador Etc would seem like kings in that country.
WSS
Most successful socialist countries oh, it appears to me, have been that way for a long time I do not seem to having an extremely large destitute violent and unproductive underclass.
And he does support United States benefits for illegals so there's that. People in the United States on the Dole compared to the Bottom Rung of society in El Salvador Etc would seem like kings in that country.
WSS
Steve I consider you an intelligent person and that's why I enjoy these chats but it seems like you you often times play stupid to keep the argument going. There is a big difference from opening boarders and providing a standard of living to all individuals, legal or illegal, living in the Unite States. I think there is a large segment of our country who don't believe there is "border crisis" but completely support overhauling our immigration policies. Better border security, path to citizenship, improving ICE enforcement, better trade agreements with Mexico, stricter fines for using illegal labor, fast track deportation for certain violations, etc.. This isn't a simple issue and will take many difficult decisions to make a positive change but unfortunately our leadership doesn't care to affect change as much as they do rallying their base, on either side of the aisle. So let's hope the population can overcome this nationalist nonsense and rise above to force our leaders into actually leading....
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Most successful socialist countries oh, it appears to me, have been that way for a long time I do not seem to having an extremely large destitute violent and unproductive underclass.
And he does support United States benefits for illegals so there's that. People in the United States on the Dole compared to the Bottom Rung of society in El Salvador Etc would seem like kings in that country.
WSS
Steve I consider you an intelligent person and that's why I enjoy these chats but it seems like you you often times play stupid to keep the argument going. There is a big difference from opening boarders and providing a standard of living to all individuals, legal or illegal, living in the Unite States. I think there is a large segment of our country who don't believe there is "border crisis" but completely support overhauling our immigration policies. Better border security, path to citizenship, improving ICE enforcement, better trade agreements with Mexico, stricter fines for using illegal labor, fast track deportation for certain violations, etc.. This isn't a simple issue and will take many difficult decisions to make a positive change but unfortunately our leadership doesn't care to affect change as much as they do rallying their base, on either side of the aisle. So let's hope the population can overcome this nationalist nonsense and rise above to force our leaders into actually leading....
Steve I consider you an intelligent person and that's why I enjoy these chats but
oh oh you know the old journalistic Maxim everything before the but is bullshit?
it seems like you you often times play stupid to keep the argument going. There is a big difference from opening boarders and providing a standard of living to all individuals, legal or illegal, living in the Unite States.
I totally disagree with that. Illegals have no rights and should be afforded no benefits. It's like expecting factory warranty service when you've stolen a car.
I think there is a large segment of our country who don't believe there is "border crisis" but completely support overhauling our immigration policies.
myself included. Also I believe that many who disregard the idea of a border crisis are doing so merely because they hate Trump.
Better border security, path to citizenship, improving ICE enforcement, better trade agreements with Mexico, stricter fines for using illegal labor, fast track deportation for certain violations, etc..
I'm basically on board for all of that even though id fasttrak deportation for illegals for almost any violation. But especially Grease the skids for immigration for people with skills. I would also crack down hard on Sanctuary cities. I think that's reprehensible. I don't expect a border wall to be a Panacea nor do I trust anybody to do anything substantial about the reform you mentioned.
This isn't a simple issue and will take many difficult decisions to make a positive change but unfortunately our leadership doesn't care to affect change as much as they do rallying their base, on either side of the aisle.
no shit? ?
So let's hope the population can overcome this nationalist nonsense and rise above to force our leaders into actually leading....
looking for a prediction? When the Democrats take over we won't hear dick about it. Except on Fox News or in The Blaze.
WSS
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There's no difference between the two or all the fake news the MSM spews..
It's funny.. Sonny bitches about a meme I post. I look in to it and find the meme to be questionable so I do the right thing and delete it.. Now the only place it's visible is in Sonny's post. Yet along comes Peckerhead to bitch about memes for the 25th time
And Sonny thinks he's in a position to dole out life advice
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And then there is this..
Nancy thinks it's Thanksgiving day.
With all the bullshit that comes out of her mouth, Schummer's mouth, AOC's mouth, Booker's mouth,Omar's mouth, and just about every liberal's mouth.. Is there any wonder the Beto meme was believable?
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How rich.....
Does anyone recall what just happened to Judge Kavanaugh?
yeah lets belly ache about a forum meme
fake outrage? Yep
like a snowflake
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Not a meme but an actual tweet
I guess it’s ok when you need to do it
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Not a meme but an actual tweet
I guess it’s ok when you need to do it
Of course Trump did negotiate with Congress maybe you weren't paying attention. Never a good idea to give anything to Chuck and Nancy.
WSS
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And then there is this..
Nancy thinks it's Thanksgiving day.
With all the bullshit that comes out of her mouth, Schummer's mouth, AOC's mouth, Booker's mouth,Omar's mouth, and just about every liberal's mouth.. Is there any wonder the Beto meme was believable?
And then there is this..
Nancy thinks it's Thanksgiving day.
With all the bullshit that comes out of her mouth, Schummer's mouth, AOC's mouth, Booker's mouth,Omar's mouth, and just about every liberal's mouth.. Is there any wonder the Beto meme was believable?
It was never believable if you have at least half of a brain.
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Not a meme but an actual tweet
I guess it’s ok when you need to do it
Go drive your truck.
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Not a meme but an actual tweet
I guess it’s ok when you need to do it
Go drive your truck.
Go drive your truck.
Only Monday-Thursday
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Barry shoved Obamacare down our throats.
Enjoy the wall.
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Barry shoved Obamacare down our throats.
Enjoy the wall.
Barry shoved Obamacare down our throats.
Enjoy the wall.
Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
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Barry shoved Obamacare down our throats.
Enjoy the wall.
Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
Do you believe there's a downside to the ACA? I don't think there's necessarily a down side to the wall unless somebody expects it to be a Panacea.
WSS
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Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
Do you believe there's a downside to the ACA? I don't think there's necessarily a down side to the wall unless somebody expects it to be a Panacea.
WSS
Do you believe there's a downside to the ACA? I don't think there's necessarily a down side to the wall unless somebody expects it to be a Panacea.
WSS
I do believe the ACA is flawed but I also believe spending $8 Billion on a symbol is a joke. But that is off topic. The point that was made is Congress approving the ACA is the same as the president circumventing Congressional approval.
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Barry shoved Obamacare down our throats.
Enjoy the wall.
Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
Congress approved the Affordable Care Act but declaring a national emergency and circumventing Congressional approval is basically the same thing.
Barry claimed more than a dozen national emergencies during his tenure, but none to the benefit of the U.S.
Funny the Dems used the term “Affordable” in their quest of socialized medicine.
I’m working with people that are now paying $1200 a month for their healthcare insurance.
Affordable? For whom...the welfare recipients that are receiving it free?
I’m happy a judge deemed the ACA unconstitutional.
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