The Combine
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A football player got into a fight? Not exactly "man bites dog."
I mean where is the line? Fought as a Frosh then nothing for a couple years after that? Hardly the habitual criminal...
#73 Joe Thomas will join the crew from NFL Network Day 1, on the field to observe the OL drills.. that won't suck ?
Dunno, gum... he liked both Cam and Shon...
A football player got into a fight? Not exactly "man bites dog."
I mean where is the line? Fought as a Frosh then nothing for a couple years after that? Hardly the habitual criminal...
Dunno, gum... he liked both Cam and Shon...
Well...it goes back to the conversation had on the other thread, where, of course it is said that it is not alright for a man to hit a woman.....but then someone claimed that it is alright for a man to hit another man.
And the answer is: It is NOT alright. You commit an assault on another human being, man or woman, and there can be consequences.
Point in fact.
I can tell you that I have had far more cases in front of me for man on man assaults than man on woman.
(again, remember....it is NOT domestic violence unless the victim is a relative, or lives with you...it is "merely" assault.
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How about we discontinue any discussion about him until and unless the Browns draft him
Most recent article on him says Buffalo wants him in front of Josh Allen directing their OL and he goes early 2nd to them. He actually never played C until A&M. Was primarily a G and OT in HS. They switched him there to direct the OL and act as a pulling center on some of their running plays which was of course in front of the leading rusher in the SEC.
The reason he is up for discussion is the same reason we discuss other possible Browns choices even if we don't end up drafting them. It's the same reason I have brought up Devin White, ILB from LSU. He could meet a real need and I expect a stellar career from him just as I do McCoy.
I will be identifying others as we get closer to draft day as will other posters here. That's just how we fill the time until draft so people have a better idea of what kinds of players we would want to look closely at before we actually draft anyone. That's how it works so don't read it if you don't like it.
It's the same reason I have brought up Devin White, ILB from LSU.
In thinking about the AFCN I have concluded that White is the solution to the Steelers' MLB problem...
All the more reason for me to want him.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's the same reason I have brought up Devin White, ILB from LSU.
In thinking about the AFCN I have concluded that White is the solution to the Steelers' MLB problem...
All the more reason for me to want him.
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Steelers draft behind the Browns at 17. Is it fair to say that neither is likely to get him as he will go much higher?
This is one of those few times I think it imperative we use draft capital to move up in the draft and take him. I think he is that good and that key to a vast defensive improvement for the Browns. He's a one man wrecking crew not unlike some of the best who have ever played the position.
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The Prospect game-tape nit picking has started..Here's 3 writers 2nd look opinion on White.. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/02/08/2019-nfl-draft-player-profile-devin-white/ White has dropped on this site from #5 to now #17..but Physical freaks like White, raise those numbers at combine..I can't see how he gets past Bengals, even if White is still there then.. Kentucky's Josh Allen has moved from #4 to #6
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Miss.St. DT Jeffery Simmons (a top 25 prospect) & WR Colorado St. Preston Williams fail Combine background check & get no Combine invite..Williams pleaded guilty to harassing a women, court date differed. Simmons was arrested in 2016 for Physical altercation with women..The List of 335 should be out next week. Lot of juniors coming out this year. could be a lot of unhappy campers waiting on Pro Days?
Miss.St. DT Jeffery Simmons, La.Tech DE-Jaylon Ferguson & WR Colorado St. Preston Williams fail Combine background check & get no Combine invite..
Nfl.com now reports, that all 3 players will get expenses paid invite to Combine for *Medical Evaluations Only*..Jeffery Simmons stock continues falling now with late ACL injury. Drafted team will need to sit Simmons on IR most/all season. Ferguson's agent is still pushing to get his client on the field (tick-tock) Freddie Kitchens is scheduled to speak at Combine 2-27-19 at 12:15pm..John Dorsey speaks 2-28-19 at 10am...both should be carried on NFL Network (exact viewing times could get debatable) ...
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Seriously Gip?
Yes, seriously. Why should we care about potential Texas A&M prospects any more than Texas prospects, or Texas Tech prospects, or Texas Christian prospects....or, you name the school.
Give us a list of the priority needs of the Browns, and which prospects may fit those needs who may be available when the Browns pick, regardless of college.
Hell...for all I know there may be a couple of Akron U players that could be draftable prospects. Maybe we should highlight them.
Yes, seriously. Why should we care about potential Texas A&M prospects any more than Texas prospects, or Texas Tech prospects, or Texas Christian prospects....or, you name the school.
Give us a list of the priority needs of the Browns, and which prospects may fit those needs who may be available when the Browns pick, regardless of college.
Hell...for all I know there may be a couple of Akron U players that could be draftable prospects. Maybe we should highlight them.
It's background on prospects for the NFL draft that we may or may not draft. If someone has Insight on players that could fill a need for the Browns because they have watched them their whole career why would we not welcome more information about said players. He doesn't know every single player that's going to be drafted and when and their strengths and weaknesses but from watching those guys he gave us his scouting report. What is wrong with that. The Browns certainly aren't looking at quarterback at least in the first round and you have given breakdowns and Dwayne Haskins in a thread or two. I fail to see the difference. If there are players from Akron that you think that posters here should look into because you think they could fill a need to feel free to give as much information as you can.
Edit also you said this in a post I just saw
"I say we get good/better everywhere we can....no matter the position. If say, a CB is clearly the best player available in the draft, then you take one over what you consider a lesser talent at a position of greater need. But all things being equal talentwise, you take the place of need."
So who is to say one of those 3 guys won't be bpa at one of our picks
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Who watches all of it ....I am a bit of a nerdy geek I even mark down player stats etc on a writing pad each year so I can study them to help with my final mock draft at the end of April
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Guilty here as well... Love my DVR!
But just not going to be the same this year without Mayock talking about "bubblebutts"...
Guilty here as well... Love my DVR!
But just not going to be the same this year without Mayock talking about "bubblebutts"...
? I love me some Underwear Olympics too! Mayock, and his sense of humor, will definitely be missed. 1 year they kept showing his interception of Dan Marino. To the best of my memory, an annoyed but poised Marino responded with "Hey Mike, do you have keep showing your only INT?" Mayock was like "I have no control over it Dan; but I certainly appreciate the ability to relive a fond memory as many times as they will allow me to."
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Here's SI's top 50 pre-combine players. See any two you especially like?
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Here's SI's top 50 pre-combine players. See any two you especially like?
Here's SI's top 50 pre-combine players. See any two you especially like?
Actually, I see 3....LB Devin White (LSU), DT Christian Wilkins (Clemson), & TE TJ Hockenson (Iowa). As I stated, I like them but my opinion is only that, MY opinion as a Fan.
Mike
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Here's SI's top 50 pre-combine players. See any two you especially like?
Actually, I see 3....LB Devin White (LSU), DT Christian Wilkins (Clemson), & TE TJ Hockenson (Iowa). As I stated, I like them but my opinion is only that, MY opinion as a Fan.
Mike
Actually, I see 3....LB Devin White (LSU), DT Christian Wilkins (Clemson), & TE TJ Hockenson (Iowa). As I stated, I like them but my opinion is only that, MY opinion as a Fan.
I could have written this....
Hockenson is a strong blocking TE... almost a given for an Iowa TE.
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I always make sure to watch the 40's....dont care about how fast they run, just wanna see who's bouncing the most pipe all the way down the strip. Those guys shoot right to the top of my draftboard......?
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Guilty here as well... Love my DVR!
But just not going to be the same this year without Mayock talking about "bubblebutts"...
? I love me some Underwear Olympics too! Mayock, and his sense of humor, will definitely be missed. 1 year they kept showing his interception of Dan Marino. To the best of my memory, an annoyed but poised Marino responded with "Hey Mike, do you have keep showing your only INT?" Mayock was like "I have no control over it Dan; but I certainly appreciate the ability to relive a fond memory as many times as they will allow me to."
? I love me some Underwear Olympics too! Mayock, and his sense of humor, will definitely be missed. 1 year they kept showing his interception of Dan Marino. To the best of my memory, an annoyed but poised Marino responded with "Hey Mike, do you have keep showing your only INT?" Mayock was like "I have no control over it Dan; but I certainly appreciate the ability to relive a fond memory as many times as they will allow me to."
I like the NCAA womens springboard and high diving championships.
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Yes, seriously. Why should we care about potential Texas A&M prospects any more than Texas prospects, or Texas Tech prospects, or Texas Christian prospects....or, you name the school.
Give us a list of the priority needs of the Browns, and which prospects may fit those needs who may be available when the Browns pick, regardless of college.
Hell...for all I know there may be a couple of Akron U players that could be draftable prospects. Maybe we should highlight them.
It's background on prospects for the NFL draft that we may or may not draft. If someone has Insight on players that could fill a need for the Browns because they have watched them their whole career why would we not welcome more information about said players. He doesn't know every single player that's going to be drafted and when and their strengths and weaknesses but from watching those guys he gave us his scouting report. What is wrong with that. The Browns certainly aren't looking at quarterback at least in the first round and you have given breakdowns and Dwayne Haskins in a thread or two. I fail to see the difference. If there are players from Akron that you think that posters here should look into because you think they could fill a need to feel free to give as much information as you can.
Edit also you said this in a post I just saw
"I say we get good/better everywhere we can....no matter the position. If say, a CB is clearly the best player available in the draft, then you take one over what you consider a lesser talent at a position of greater need. But all things being equal talentwise, you take the place of need."
So who is to say one of those 3 guys won't be bpa at one of our picks
It's background on prospects for the NFL draft that we may or may not draft. If someone has Insight on players that could fill a need for the Browns because they have watched them their whole career why would we not welcome more information about said players. He doesn't know every single player that's going to be drafted and when and their strengths and weaknesses but from watching those guys he gave us his scouting report. What is wrong with that. The Browns certainly aren't looking at quarterback at least in the first round and you have given breakdowns and Dwayne Haskins in a thread or two. I fail to see the difference. If there are players from Akron that you think that posters here should look into because you think they could fill a need to feel free to give as much information as you can.
Edit also you said this in a post I just saw
"I say we get good/better everywhere we can....no matter the position. If say, a CB is clearly the best player available in the draft, then you take one over what you consider a lesser talent at a position of greater need. But all things being equal talentwise, you take the place of need."
So who is to say one of those 3 guys won't be bpa at one of our picks
But don't you know, someone's "rules" only apply to others, not them. They are a genius, who has to make a point, while trying to embarrass others.
But what I really took from it was that it was A&M players being talked about, and who should care about them.
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3 best Aggies this year listed by best for Browns first. All are coming out a year early.
Eric McCoy - Center - I think he is going to be a very good pro center for some lucky team. Or even a G since he has excellent pulling skills. The one A&M player I think could contribute to the Browns the most if we could pick him up around the 3rd rd.
Jace Sternberger - TE - He will be very similar to our own 3rd year TE Njoku but better hands to start out his rookie season. (I liked Njoku's progress this year in that area).
Trey Williams RB - Leading SEC rusher in 2018 and broke all time A&M single season rushing record - great vision and follows his blocking very well - quick through any crease and very decent after contact yards. Good hands. Very similar to our own 3rd down RB Johnson. The write up on him in the article above is very outdated. Major jump from 2017 to 2018 under far better coaching. Less than 1000 yds R/R in 2017 to over 2000 this year.
Why should we care until and unless we draft them?
Why should we care until and unless we draft them?
Last year it was a little different Gip.. We needed a quarterback- badly. And we picked #1 and #4. So yeah, I watched the Combine- especially the QBs, and all their pro days too. So what did I say about Josh Allen based on his game tape and pro day? Huh?
Garret was the projected #1 pick in the draft. The Browns had the #1 pick in the draft.....so certainly we cared about him for that reason.
Where do these other guys project? Any of them in the mix for the #17 pick? That would be the only reason to single them out.
That's the difference this year. No player is going to impact the W\L as much as the quarterback. 16 teams picking ahead of us- so much harder to say what's going to happen. A guy we may want could be off the board. Count me not quite as interested. BTW, several DL from Clemson, as well as other guys rated with good pass rush skills could be on our radar. We'll certainly look at CBs, and maybe a few WRs too. O-line depth.
Did you give a so what, we have Tretter at center? And if he gets hurt? Right now they have Kyle Kalis listed as his backup. Ever heard of him before? Maybe, can Corbet play center? See what I mean? So we can't be looking at just one guy at a given position.
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Why should we care until and unless we draft them?
Last year it was a little different Gip.. We needed a quarterback- badly. And we picked #1 and #4. So yeah, I watched the Combine- especially the QBs, and all their pro days too. So what did I say about Josh Allen based on his game tape and pro day? Huh?
Garret was the projected #1 pick in the draft. The Browns had the #1 pick in the draft.....so certainly we cared about him for that reason.
Where do these other guys project? Any of them in the mix for the #17 pick? That would be the only reason to single them out.
That's the difference this year. No player is going to impact the W\L as much as the quarterback. 16 teams picking ahead of us- so much harder to say what's going to happen. A guy we may want could be off the board. Count me not quite as interested. BTW, several DL from Clemson, as well as other guys rated with good pass rush skills could be on our radar. We'll certainly look at CBs, and maybe a few WRs too. O-line depth.
Did you give a so what, we have Tretter at center? And if he gets hurt? Right now they have Kyle Kalis listed as his backup. Ever heard of him before? Maybe, can Corbet play center? See what I mean? So we can't be looking at just one guy at a given position.
Last year it was a little different Gip.. We needed a quarterback- badly. And we picked #1 and #4. So yeah, I watched the Combine- especially the QBs, and all their pro days too. So what did I say about Josh Allen based on his game tape and pro day? Huh?
That's the difference this year. No player is going to impact the W\L as much as the quarterback. 16 teams picking ahead of us- so much harder to say what's going to happen. A guy we may want could be off the board. Count me not quite as interested. BTW, several DL from Clemson, as well as other guys rated with good pass rush skills could be on our radar. We'll certainly look at CBs, and maybe a few WRs too. O-line depth.
Did you give a so what, we have Tretter at center? And if he gets hurt? Right now they have Kyle Kalis listed as his backup. Ever heard of him before? Maybe, can Corbet play center? See what I mean? So we can't be looking at just one guy at a given position.
I agree. Many more players are on the table, and it's a message board. Gip's a buddy, but he doesn't decide what to talk about and and what not to talk about.
My theory is if the topic interests you, join in...if not move on to another topic. I don't comment on every thread in this forum, mostly because all don't interest me.
Again, Gip, you are a solid in my book.
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Last year it was a little different Gip.. We needed a quarterback- badly. And we picked #1 and #4. So yeah, I watched the Combine- especially the QBs, and all their pro days too. So what did I say about Josh Allen based on his game tape and pro day? Huh?
That's the difference this year. No player is going to impact the W\L as much as the quarterback. 16 teams picking ahead of us- so much harder to say what's going to happen. A guy we may want could be off the board. Count me not quite as interested. BTW, several DL from Clemson, as well as other guys rated with good pass rush skills could be on our radar. We'll certainly look at CBs, and maybe a few WRs too. O-line depth.
Did you give a so what, we have Tretter at center? And if he gets hurt? Right now they have Kyle Kalis listed as his backup. Ever heard of him before? Maybe, can Corbet play center? See what I mean? So we can't be looking at just one guy at a given position.
I agree. Many more players are on the table, and it's a message board. Gip's a buddy, but he doesn't decide what to talk about and and what not to talk about.
My theory is if the topic interests you, join in...if not move on to another topic. I don't comment on every thread in this forum, mostly because all don't interest me.
Again, Gip, you are a solid in my book.
I agree. Many more players are on the table, and it's a message board. Gip's a buddy, but he doesn't decide what to talk about and and what not to talk about.
My theory is if the topic interests you, join in...if not move on to another topic. I don't comment on every thread in this forum, mostly because all don't interest me.
Again, Gip, you are a solid in my book.
I was really just ragging on Tex because he was being an Aggie Faggie. It was done far more for that reason than anything else. Was just a little jovial banter
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I agree. Many more players are on the table, and it's a message board. Gip's a buddy, but he doesn't decide what to talk about and and what not to talk about.
My theory is if the topic interests you, join in...if not move on to another topic. I don't comment on every thread in this forum, mostly because all don't interest me.
Again, Gip, you are a solid in my book.
I was really just ragging on Tex because he was being an Aggie Faggie. It was done far more for that reason than anything else. Was just a little jovial banter
I was really just ragging on Tex because he was being an Aggie Faggie. It was done far more for that reason than anything else. Was just a little jovial banter
Well just remember the name Kenyon Green in the 2022 Draft. If he stays healthy he will be the best OT ever to play for Maroon & White.?
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I was really just ragging on Tex because he was being an Aggie Faggie. It was done far more for that reason than anything else. Was just a little jovial banter
Well just remember the name Kenyon Green in the 2022 Draft. If he stays healthy he will be the best OT ever to play for Maroon & White.?
Well just remember the name Kenyon Green in the 2022 Draft. If he stays healthy he will be the best OT ever to play for Maroon & White.?
???????Author John Green went to Kenyon College
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