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Anybody seen tape of this dk metcalf kid?

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    @domcucch1994 said:

    Fuck a route tree just let baker throw up back shoulder fades all day.. 

    Worked well for Corey Coleman. 

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Worked well for Corey Coleman. 

    Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

    We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

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      @tiamat63 said:

      Worked well for Corey Coleman. 

      Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

      We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @domcucch1994 said:

      Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

      We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

      That's great and and all...while I get where you're going, I'm also not going to invest a rather high 1st round pick in a 1 trick pony.      The kid need some serious polish and at this point I would think somebody would realize, being an athletic freak doesn't guarantee NFL success.   Look at how many receivers have come and gone in the last 10 years that were athletic marvels yet Antonio Browns small ass is top 5 at this position.  

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      • tiamat63T tiamat63

        @domcucch1994 said:

        Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

        We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

        That's great and and all...while I get where you're going, I'm also not going to invest a rather high 1st round pick in a 1 trick pony.      The kid need some serious polish and at this point I would think somebody would realize, being an athletic freak doesn't guarantee NFL success.   Look at how many receivers have come and gone in the last 10 years that were athletic marvels yet Antonio Browns small ass is top 5 at this position.  

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        @tiamat63 said:

        That's great and and all...while I get where you're going, I'm also not going to invest a rather high 1st round pick in a 1 trick pony.      The kid need some serious polish and at this point I would think somebody would realize, being an athletic freak doesn't guarantee NFL success.   Look at how many receivers have come and gone in the last 10 years that were athletic marvels yet Antonio Browns small ass is top 5 at this position.  

        We have speedsters in Callaway and Perriman.. 

        Sure it would be a high pick, but there is a chance he slips into the 2nd or we move up towards the end of the 1st round to nab him.

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          I have believed since LAST pre-season that OBJ would be a Brown in 2019. Even if he isn't, I would prefer we not target a WR in this draft before round 3. We'll see.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

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              @mld-woody said:

              https://twitter.com/BunkiePerkins/status/1095043420522008578?s=20

              dude is massive

              Is he the dude on the left? Holy shitballs thats more than 225lbs. That kind of muscle on a 6'4 frame is easily 260 if he has any legs and ass whatsoever. Dear lord, he shames Gordon. 

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              @clevfan4life said:

              Is he the dude on the left? Holy shitballs thats more than 225lbs. That kind of muscle on a 6'4 frame is easily 260 if he has any legs and ass whatsoever. Dear lord, he shames Gordon. 

              I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

              I wonder if he can play DE?

              I am big on offensive football.  I have been saying for over a decade that the4 spread would come to the NFL and the QB position would change.  I also know that you can't bank on scoring 35-40 points a game, especially in the playoffs.

              Defense still matters.  A few teams need a QB so 2-3 of those will go before 17.  A LT or two will go.....we will draft a LT type before a WR.  There will be several quality defenders on the board when we pick.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

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                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                @clevfan4life said:

                Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

                I agree with that.   The guy is a problem I don't want in the locker room.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Is he the dude on the left? Holy shitballs thats more than 225lbs. That kind of muscle on a 6'4 frame is easily 260 if he has any legs and ass whatsoever. Dear lord, he shames Gordon. 

                  I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

                  I wonder if he can play DE?

                  I am big on offensive football.  I have been saying for over a decade that the4 spread would come to the NFL and the QB position would change.  I also know that you can't bank on scoring 35-40 points a game, especially in the playoffs.

                  Defense still matters.  A few teams need a QB so 2-3 of those will go before 17.  A LT or two will go.....we will draft a LT type before a WR.  There will be several quality defenders on the board when we pick.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @ballpeen said:

                    There will be several quality defenders on the board when we pick.

                  "Maybe" a corner. Front 7 guys im not seeing shit fall to us except possibly dexter i cost myself the ncaa champ lawrence.....who ofc id take in a heartbeat. 

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Is he the dude on the left? Holy shitballs thats more than 225lbs. That kind of muscle on a 6'4 frame is easily 260 if he has any legs and ass whatsoever. Dear lord, he shames Gordon. 

                    I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

                    I wonder if he can play DE?

                    I am big on offensive football.  I have been saying for over a decade that the4 spread would come to the NFL and the QB position would change.  I also know that you can't bank on scoring 35-40 points a game, especially in the playoffs.

                    Defense still matters.  A few teams need a QB so 2-3 of those will go before 17.  A LT or two will go.....we will draft a LT type before a WR.  There will be several quality defenders on the board when we pick.

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @ballpeen said:

                    I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

                    I wonder if he can play DE?

                    Megatron would like a word with you.

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                      @ballpeen said:

                        There will be several quality defenders on the board when we pick.

                      "Maybe" a corner. Front 7 guys im not seeing shit fall to us except possibly dexter i cost myself the ncaa champ lawrence.....who ofc id take in a heartbeat. 

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      "Maybe" a corner. Front 7 guys im not seeing shit fall to us except possibly dexter i cost myself the ncaa champ lawrence.....who ofc id take in a heartbeat. 

                      Like you said, you never know until the draft comes to you.  Sometimes you have to let it happen.  I just don't see Dorsey taking a receiver at #1.  I see him taking a defender or a O tackle....be it one side or another.  

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      • tiamat63T tiamat63

                        @ballpeen said:

                        I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

                        I wonder if he can play DE?

                        Megatron would like a word with you.

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                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Megatron would like a word with you.

                        LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

                        I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                          @tiamat63 said:

                          Megatron would like a word with you.

                          LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

                          I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

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                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

                          I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

                          So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

                          Right then.  

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                            Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

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                            nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

                            I agree.. I don't want OBJ anywhere near Cleveland.. Let him rot with Eli.. Secondly.. DK Metcalf is also Eric Metcalf's nephew.. I find that somewhat interesting.. But yeah.. We have bigger needs than WR.. Although.. there are rumors Perriman is about to go Terrell Pryor on us..Don't let the door hit your ass Brashad.. Baker Mayfield made you.. not the other way around.

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                            • tiamat63T tiamat63

                              @ballpeen said:

                              LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

                              I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

                              So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

                              Right then.  

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

                              Right then.  

                              I never said that.  Don't get me wrong, I like the kid.  I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games.  It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns.  The big thing with me is his medicals.  He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.

                              My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

                              If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him.  Would we do that?  Maybe.  If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.  

                              I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                @tiamat63 said:

                                So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

                                Right then.  

                                I never said that.  Don't get me wrong, I like the kid.  I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games.  It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns.  The big thing with me is his medicals.  He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.

                                My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

                                If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him.  Would we do that?  Maybe.  If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.  

                                I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @ballpeen said:

                                My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

                                At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

                                  At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

                                  LOL....my bad man, I was thinking you started the thread.  Again, I don't have a problem with big receivers.  I like Josh.  He was a big receiver.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    Worked well for Corey Coleman. 

                                    Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                                    We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

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                                    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @domcucch1994 said:

                                    Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                                    We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

                                    First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

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                                      @domcucch1994 said:

                                      Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                                      We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

                                      First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

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                                      @jcam222 said:

                                      First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

                                      I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        Have we learned nothing from David Boston?

                                        If you get too big, you're not explosively quick as a WR and therefore the muscle doesn't matter because you can't separate.  I don't understand the fantasy of "big guy playing basketball" because the quicker DB can get his hands around regardless.

                                        This should drop Metcalf's draft stock if people were smart - but we'll be drafting front 7 in round 1 anyway.  Plenty will be there --  I would avoid Jeffrey Simmons and his blown ACL, though.  Safe bets are a couple of Dremont Jones, Polite, Clelin Farrell, or Wilkins will be available.

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                                          @jcam222 said:

                                          First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

                                          I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

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                                          jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by jcam222
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                                          @ballpeen said:

                                          I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

                                          No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion. 

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