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Anybody seen tape of this dk metcalf kid?

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't need a defensive end playing wide receiver.

    I wonder if he can play DE?

    Megatron would like a word with you.

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    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

    Megatron would like a word with you.

    LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

    I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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      @tiamat63 said:

      Megatron would like a word with you.

      LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

      I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @ballpeen said:

      LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

      I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

      So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

      Right then.  

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        Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

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        @clevfan4life said:

        Obj isnt coming to clev no matter how cool baker is. Obj is not a cleveland kind of guy. Not knocking his skill, but he's a man diva.....look at his oroblems in new fucking york when he doesnt get his way. U think he's not gonna salt the whole lockeroom when the ball stops coming his way a few games? 

        I agree.. I don't want OBJ anywhere near Cleveland.. Let him rot with Eli.. Secondly.. DK Metcalf is also Eric Metcalf's nephew.. I find that somewhat interesting.. But yeah.. We have bigger needs than WR.. Although.. there are rumors Perriman is about to go Terrell Pryor on us..Don't let the door hit your ass Brashad.. Baker Mayfield made you.. not the other way around.

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        • tiamat63T tiamat63

          @ballpeen said:

          LOL....cool.   Maybe we split Myles wide right?  

          I did like him.  He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus.  I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him

          So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

          Right then.  

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          @tiamat63 said:

          So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

          Right then.  

          I never said that.  Don't get me wrong, I like the kid.  I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games.  It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns.  The big thing with me is his medicals.  He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.

          My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

          If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him.  Would we do that?  Maybe.  If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.  

          I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            @tiamat63 said:

            So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?  

            Right then.  

            I never said that.  Don't get me wrong, I like the kid.  I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games.  It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns.  The big thing with me is his medicals.  He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.

            My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

            If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him.  Would we do that?  Maybe.  If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.  

            I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..

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            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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            @ballpeen said:

            My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

            At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

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              @ballpeen said:

              My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17.  I just disagree with that.

              At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

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              @tiamat63 said:

              At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to,  because I sure as shit never said that. 

              LOL....my bad man, I was thinking you started the thread.  Again, I don't have a problem with big receivers.  I like Josh.  He was a big receiver.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @tiamat63 said:

                Worked well for Corey Coleman. 

                Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

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                jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                @domcucch1994 said:

                Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

                First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

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                  @domcucch1994 said:

                  Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                  We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

                  First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

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                  @jcam222 said:

                  First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

                  I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    Have we learned nothing from David Boston?

                    If you get too big, you're not explosively quick as a WR and therefore the muscle doesn't matter because you can't separate.  I don't understand the fantasy of "big guy playing basketball" because the quicker DB can get his hands around regardless.

                    This should drop Metcalf's draft stock if people were smart - but we'll be drafting front 7 in round 1 anyway.  Plenty will be there --  I would avoid Jeffrey Simmons and his blown ACL, though.  Safe bets are a couple of Dremont Jones, Polite, Clelin Farrell, or Wilkins will be available.

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                      @jcam222 said:

                      First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

                      I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

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                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by jcam222
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                      @ballpeen said:

                      I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

                      No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion. 

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                        TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                        So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

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                          So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

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                          jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                          @topdawg31 said:

                          So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

                          Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics. 

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                            @ballpeen said:

                            I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?

                            No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion. 

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                            @jcam222 said:

                            No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion. 

                            Agreed on all accounts.  

                            Also even with a metabolic schedule,  good chance you still piss hot off the rando tests in the NFL.       Then the off season becomes even more of your enemy because now you have to contend with connective tissue, ligaments, growth plates and bone structure dealing with inhuman muscle gain/loss which leads itself to injury even in non contact drills.  

                            In short, it's one of the reasons I crossed Dexter Lawrence off of my draft list in the 1st three rounds - his chance at severe injury is 3 fold greater after his extended ostarine use.   And please, don't @ me if youre a Clemson fan or trying to defend the kid.  

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                              So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                              @topdawg31 said:

                              So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

                              JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %.   Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate.        So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.  

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                                @topdawg31 said:

                                So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

                                JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %.   Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate.        So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.  

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                                TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by TopDawg31
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                                @tiamat63 said:

                                JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %.   Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate.        So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.  

                                that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.

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                                  @tiamat63 said:

                                  JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %.   Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate.        So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.  

                                  that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.

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                                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                  @topdawg31 said:

                                  that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.

                                  It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that.    But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.

                                  That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented.  So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass.   I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test.    Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.  

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                                    @topdawg31 said:

                                    that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.

                                    It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that.    But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.

                                    That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented.  So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass.   I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test.    Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.  

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                                    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that.    But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.

                                    That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented.  So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass.   I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test.    Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.  

                                    the smart ones don't get caught

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                                      The pick is:

                                      Hakeem Butler - Iowa State.

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                                        @topdawg31 said:

                                        So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs

                                        Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics. 

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                                        @jcam222 said:

                                        Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics. 

                                        Not even close if that picture hasnt been doctored any. Metcalf in that pic is easily as big as myles if not bigger. Is thst all functional muscle? Prob not....quick muscle is usually sattelite cells that take time to mature and establish solid neuroligical connections. 

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                                          @domcucch1994 said:

                                          Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..

                                          We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.

                                          First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

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                                          D domcucch1994 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jcam222 said:

                                          First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag. 

                                          What difference does it make? We NEED a WR who can go up and get it. This guy answers the call

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