Anybody seen tape of this dk metcalf kid?
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LOL....cool. Maybe we split Myles wide right?
I did like him. He played at Georgia Tech.....I live 100 miles from the campus. I was all on board if we drafted him...actually wanted him
So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?
Right then.
So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?
Right then.
I never said that. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid. I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games. It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns. The big thing with me is his medicals. He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.
My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17. I just disagree with that.
If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him. Would we do that? Maybe. If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.
I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..
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So you're saying no kid that's a plus sized receiver should play out wide despite show proficiency there...?
Right then.
I never said that. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid. I live in SEC county so I have seen many Miss. St games. It would be cool to have Erics nephew play for the Browns. The big thing with me is his medicals. He missed a large portion of the season with a neck injury.
My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17. I just disagree with that.
If Metcalf checks out, he probably won't last until 17, so we would have to move up to draft him. Would we do that? Maybe. If we would be willing to do that, we would also be willing to move up for a defensive player as well.
I won't be upset if we draft Metcalf, but my feeling is defensive needs are greater and probably the direction we take..
My only issue with your position was when you said there wouldn't be any defensive players worth drafting at #17. I just disagree with that.
At this point I'm not sure who you're responding to, because I sure as shit never said that.
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Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..
We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag.
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Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..
We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag.
First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag.
I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Have we learned nothing from David Boston?
If you get too big, you're not explosively quick as a WR and therefore the muscle doesn't matter because you can't separate. I don't understand the fantasy of "big guy playing basketball" because the quicker DB can get his hands around regardless.
This should drop Metcalf's draft stock if people were smart - but we'll be drafting front 7 in round 1 anyway. Plenty will be there -- I would avoid Jeffrey Simmons and his blown ACL, though. Safe bets are a couple of Dremont Jones, Polite, Clelin Farrell, or Wilkins will be available.
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I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?
No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion.
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So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
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So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics.
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I agree, but if it can't be traced, no foul....right?
No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion.
No because to maintain it longer term he will have to cycle again. Speaking from experience as well once you get used to that PED crutch it’s very hard to not use it. He didn’t put that mass on with just hgh or a SARM either. Just my opinion.
Agreed on all accounts.
Also even with a metabolic schedule, good chance you still piss hot off the rando tests in the NFL. Then the off season becomes even more of your enemy because now you have to contend with connective tissue, ligaments, growth plates and bone structure dealing with inhuman muscle gain/loss which leads itself to injury even in non contact drills.
In short, it's one of the reasons I crossed Dexter Lawrence off of my draft list in the 1st three rounds - his chance at severe injury is 3 fold greater after his extended ostarine use. And please, don't @ me if youre a Clemson fan or trying to defend the kid.
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So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %. Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate. So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.
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So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %. Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate. So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.
JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %. Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate. So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.
that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.
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JG worked to get an incredibly low body fat %. Which is why he said he was working with a nutritionist because you want to maintain that level at a safe rate. So any mass Josh put on would have looked "big" on him.
that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.
that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.
It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that. But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.
That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented. So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass. I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test. Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.
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that's not my point, most in this discussion are claiming DK cant look like that without juicing. We'll know soon enough as he will be tested on March 1st at the combine.
It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that. But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.
That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented. So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass. I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test. Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.
It's possible without juicing, certainly no doubt about that. But at some point as a skill position player it becomes something of a hindrance to your play carrying that kind of size outside of the framework of your body.
That said, like I mentioned before - the metabolic schedules on these drugs are well documented. So if you piss hot at the combine you're a complete dumbass. I'd bet good money DK ends up passing a test. Doesn't mean he hasn't juiced, just means he didn't get caught.
the smart ones don't get caught
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So when Gordon was here and looked like that it was ok? We all know his crutch was weed and not PEDs
Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics.
Gordon was shredded but I do not believe he had the kind of mass that Metcalf has. Hard to tell just from pics.
Not even close if that picture hasnt been doctored any. Metcalf in that pic is easily as big as myles if not bigger. Is thst all functional muscle? Prob not....quick muscle is usually sattelite cells that take time to mature and establish solid neuroligical connections.
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Corey Coleman isn't a 6'4, 225lb athletic freak like Metcalf..
We NEED a big WR who can go and get it.First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag.
First of all that is NOT 225 lbs. in that pic. That is a solid 250 and more of a DE body. The bulk he added in such a short period of time should be a big giant red flag.
What difference does it make? We NEED a WR who can go up and get it. This guy answers the call
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What difference does it make? We NEED a WR who can go up and get it. This guy answers the call
If he is that big and losses athleticism, while risking an injury... It makes a difference.
The key word here is as tia said 'framework'. Everybody has one, work outside its boundaries and you'll be in trouble. Even more in an elite sport.
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What difference does it make? We NEED a WR who can go up and get it. This guy answers the call
This isn't Madden there guy. I don't think you grasp how excellent the athletes are on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL.
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