Robert Kraft charged with solicitation
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Too funny
Local radio out of Tampa played some piece of trash radio/multi-media personality out of NE blaming 100% of all this on Roger Goodfella trying to end their football empire. As much as I can't stand Roger, sometimes these multi-millionaire brats in this county need to be held accountable.
I would have loved to ask the Chowda Head with only 2 brain cells on speaking terms, what if it was HIS daughter being traffic'd? Then I would have followed with who had the pistol to Kraft's temple each of his visits? For a guy smart enough in business, he sure got conveniently ignorant in these decisions in a hurry. Then again, it sure sounds like a lot of very wealthy people have been frequenting that establishment without any worries or consequences for quite some time giving me the sense this was very calculated by Kraft.
They should kick his asss right out of the NFL.
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Ive been to one in my life out west in the bay area when i visited....had no idea there were ones in ohio. Hang on lemme open up my notebook here ok where did u say tgat was again?
Let's just say the Warren/Youngstown area was very interesting in the 90s...
Let's just say the Warren/Youngstown area was very interesting in the 90s...
Or the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s until about Y2K? I certainly remember the 60s, 70s, 80s in and out of college.......wild times.
Ok another question for you guys and gals how many of you have been in a strip club or better yet cathouse legal or "illegal".
High school, college just for the fun of it?
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Too funny
Local radio out of Tampa played some piece of trash radio/multi-media personality out of NE blaming 100% of all this on Roger Goodfella trying to end their football empire. As much as I can't stand Roger, sometimes these multi-millionaire brats in this county need to be held accountable.
I would have loved to ask the Chowda Head with only 2 brain cells on speaking terms, what if it was HIS daughter being traffic'd? Then I would have followed with who had the pistol to Kraft's temple each of his visits? For a guy smart enough in business, he sure got conveniently ignorant in these decisions in a hurry. Then again, it sure sounds like a lot of very wealthy people have been frequenting that establishment without any worries or consequences for quite some time giving me the sense this was very calculated by Kraft.
They should kick his asss right out of the NFL.
Local radio out of Tampa played some piece of trash radio/multi-media personality out of NE blaming 100% of all this on Roger Goodfella trying to end their football empire. As much as I can't stand Roger, sometimes these multi-millionaire brats in this county need to be held accountable.
I would have loved to ask the Chowda Head with only 2 brain cells on speaking terms, what if it was HIS daughter being traffic'd? Then I would have followed with who had the pistol to Kraft's temple each of his visits? For a guy smart enough in business, he sure got conveniently ignorant in these decisions in a hurry. Then again, it sure sounds like a lot of very wealthy people have been frequenting that establishment without any worries or consequences for quite some time giving me the sense this was very calculated by Kraft.
They should kick his asss right out of the NFL.
Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
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Local radio out of Tampa played some piece of trash radio/multi-media personality out of NE blaming 100% of all this on Roger Goodfella trying to end their football empire. As much as I can't stand Roger, sometimes these multi-millionaire brats in this county need to be held accountable.
I would have loved to ask the Chowda Head with only 2 brain cells on speaking terms, what if it was HIS daughter being traffic'd? Then I would have followed with who had the pistol to Kraft's temple each of his visits? For a guy smart enough in business, he sure got conveniently ignorant in these decisions in a hurry. Then again, it sure sounds like a lot of very wealthy people have been frequenting that establishment without any worries or consequences for quite some time giving me the sense this was very calculated by Kraft.
They should kick his asss right out of the NFL.
Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
WSS
Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
WSS
These women live in the spa and aren't allowed to leave.
He's a smart guy, he knows what he is supporting.
It's gross, and that goes whether it is Kraft, Jimmy Haslem, or my neighbor Bob.
Find a partner that has not been forced into this life.
Look out for other people. Or look away if you have to. But don't support this practice.
He has brought shame to the NFL. He didn't get drunk and get into a bar fight, he supported a spa which was known for trafficking sex slaves.
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Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
WSS
These women live in the spa and aren't allowed to leave.
He's a smart guy, he knows what he is supporting.
It's gross, and that goes whether it is Kraft, Jimmy Haslem, or my neighbor Bob.
Find a partner that has not been forced into this life.
Look out for other people. Or look away if you have to. But don't support this practice.
He has brought shame to the NFL. He didn't get drunk and get into a bar fight, he supported a spa which was known for trafficking sex slaves.
Z
Zombo said:
These women live in the spa and aren't allowed to leave.
He's a smart guy, he knows what he is supporting.
It's gross, and that goes whether it is Kraft, Jimmy Haslem, or my neighbor Bob.
Find a partner that has not been forced into this life.
Look out for other people. Or look away if you have to. But don't support this practice.
He has brought shame to the NFL. He didn't get drunk and get into a bar fight, he supported a spa which was known for trafficking sex slaves.
Z
Frankly I can't imagine any hooker in any city in any country of the world who doesn't have a pimp who is more than likely a scumbag and capable of whatever abuse you can imagine. A great deal of them I would guess I've got a drug problem and forced into this life because of that. Even in Las Vegas where it's actually legal.
I personally think it's creepy to go to a hooker in the first place or to each ailments club for that matter.
But men do both I would imagine at least hundreds of thousands of times every day.
And WTF separates misdemeanor from felony?
WSS
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Zombo said:
These women live in the spa and aren't allowed to leave.
He's a smart guy, he knows what he is supporting.
It's gross, and that goes whether it is Kraft, Jimmy Haslem, or my neighbor Bob.
Find a partner that has not been forced into this life.
Look out for other people. Or look away if you have to. But don't support this practice.
He has brought shame to the NFL. He didn't get drunk and get into a bar fight, he supported a spa which was known for trafficking sex slaves.
Z
Frankly I can't imagine any hooker in any city in any country of the world who doesn't have a pimp who is more than likely a scumbag and capable of whatever abuse you can imagine. A great deal of them I would guess I've got a drug problem and forced into this life because of that. Even in Las Vegas where it's actually legal.
I personally think it's creepy to go to a hooker in the first place or to each ailments club for that matter.
But men do both I would imagine at least hundreds of thousands of times every day.
And WTF separates misdemeanor from felony?
WSS
Frankly I can't imagine any hooker in any city in any country of the world who doesn't have a pimp who is more than likely a scumbag and capable of whatever abuse you can imagine. A great deal of them I would guess I've got a drug problem and forced into this life because of that. Even in Las Vegas where it's actually legal.
I personally think it's creepy to go to a hooker in the first place or to each ailments club for that matter.
But men do both I would imagine at least hundreds of thousands of times every day.
And WTF separates misdemeanor from felony?
WSS
I'd think misdemeanor is financially supporting it, and felony is financially benefiting from it.
I think the NFL draws their own lines, though.
Z
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I can get around the idea of using those services and not knowing what is really going on. But when you have a business nearby and you attend the spa frequently?
It is hard to believe he didn't know anything about what was really going on there. Even more if you think how these billionaires are businesss men and in business one of the main principles is that information about everybody and everything is useful.
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I can agree to an extent.
TV revenues.....maybe not a bad idea, though I wouldn't say all....maybe 40%?
Exclude from playoffs....that wouldn't work, you are hurting players and fans. And not all teams are like the Pats, they never sniff the playoffs.
Hold draft picks.....maybe that as well.
I will say I don't like your attitude towards people with some wealth. Sounds socialist. Some day I hope you have some, and you will, and your attitude will change on that matter.
No...it's a stupid idea. And illegal. So you seem to be right in how he sees people with wealth.
TV money is a signed contract. Unless there's a behavior clause in there, ain't a damn way rog can touch that money.
Opinion born of jealousy maybe? Seems harse to be punished more because your rich. Problem is they always walk....eichstein or whoever he is, for example
No...it's a stupid idea. And illegal. So you seem to be right in how he sees people with wealth.
TV money is a signed contract. Unless there's a behavior clause in there, ain't a damn way rog can touch that money.
Opinion born of jealousy maybe? Seems harse to be punished more because your rich. Problem is they always walk....eichstein or whoever he is, for example
and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
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No...it's a stupid idea. And illegal. So you seem to be right in how he sees people with wealth.
TV money is a signed contract. Unless there's a behavior clause in there, ain't a damn way rog can touch that money.
Opinion born of jealousy maybe? Seems harse to be punished more because your rich. Problem is they always walk....eichstein or whoever he is, for example
and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
No commrade...I didn't miss it. You're butthurt that owners can't be treated the same, and think the league, and any other corporation, should be able to garnish a contract between 2 other entities. Kraft can be disciplined under conduct policy, and likely will be. You're little witch hunt tho...?
Of course rog will cover shit up...way to go out on a limb ?
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Even if u frequented such an establishment, how would u know what the plight of all of these girls are? Not all of these places have these kinds of illegals, most fireign women in the sex business came to.the country but over stayed their visa's by decades.
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Everyone seems quick to condemn off of some reports, which came out 24 hrs ago. Look how well that worked out for the people quick to make judgement and opinions on the Jussie Smollett case, not to mention many other instances.
Face it, there are A LOT of people throughout the country that once this news came out that it didn't matter what happened afterwards, they were going to believe the worst, especially being that he is rich AND associated with the Patriots. And that happens with a lot of other instances too.
Never been to one of those places, couldn't even tell you I know where one is in Virginia, but it is hard for me to believe that someone with that status and wealth would knowingly participate, much less be "involved."
But there are people posting here like he is the very reason why these poor women are being trafficked. I'm sure IF that were the case that he would be charged with more than a misdemeanor. And saying well he has a business nearby so he must know what is going on, well he is a billionaire, I imagine he owns a lot of businesses.
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Do any of these kind of places still exist in NE ohio?
Do any of these kind of places still exist in NE ohio?
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Oh good lord that show ????
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Everyone seems quick to condemn off of some reports, which came out 24 hrs ago. Look how well that worked out for the people quick to make judgement and opinions on the Jussie Smollett case, not to mention many other instances.
Face it, there are A LOT of people throughout the country that once this news came out that it didn't matter what happened afterwards, they were going to believe the worst, especially being that he is rich AND associated with the Patriots. And that happens with a lot of other instances too.
Never been to one of those places, couldn't even tell you I know where one is in Virginia, but it is hard for me to believe that someone with that status and wealth would knowingly participate, much less be "involved."
But there are people posting here like he is the very reason why these poor women are being trafficked. I'm sure IF that were the case that he would be charged with more than a misdemeanor. And saying well he has a business nearby so he must know what is going on, well he is a billionaire, I imagine he owns a lot of businesses.
it is hard for me to believe that someone with that status and wealth would knowingly participate, much less be "involved."
And why's that? Cause your wealth of life experience still doesn't allow you to fathom that rich people have access to shit you can't wrap your head around? Perhaps, since you have no experience being a billionaire, that you have no clue, as Joe schmoe, what a billionaire would actually do?
What you would do is not what Robert Kraft would do. Understand the difference
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No...it's a stupid idea. And illegal. So you seem to be right in how he sees people with wealth.
TV money is a signed contract. Unless there's a behavior clause in there, ain't a damn way rog can touch that money.
Opinion born of jealousy maybe? Seems harse to be punished more because your rich. Problem is they always walk....eichstein or whoever he is, for example
and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
I won't delve into your business. This just news just broke, so cool it until the NFL does it's due diligence. Obvious violation of the personal conduct policy. Yet to be seen how hard (or not ) the NFL is going to discipline Kraft.
Sure, the owners are Goodfellas boss, I have to wonder what their collective opinion of Kraft visiting a massage parlor is...
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and of course you completely swing and miss the entire point Which is good ole rog sez he holds owners to a higher standard but only shows that it is a good old boys club and rog will cover there ass's and as far as my financial well being from birth to up till now is really none of your fucking business
I won't delve into your business. This just news just broke, so cool it until the NFL does it's due diligence. Obvious violation of the personal conduct policy. Yet to be seen how hard (or not ) the NFL is going to discipline Kraft.
Sure, the owners are Goodfellas boss, I have to wonder what their collective opinion of Kraft visiting a massage parlor is...
I won't delve into your business. This just news just broke, so cool it until the NFL does it's due diligence. Obvious violation of the personal conduct policy. Yet to be seen how hard (or not ) the NFL is going to discipline Kraft.
Sure, the owners are Goodfellas boss, I have to wonder what their collective opinion of Kraft visiting a massage parlor is...
Well ya know.. I always had this feeling Jerry Jones is one who frequents these types of places.. Just call it a strange vibe..... I bet Kraft is not the only one... Can you imagine the jokes in the Pats locker room?.. Honestly.. If I was caught..I would feel pretty weird walking into the building.. If you gonna do that stuff.. Do it at an apartment or somewhere out in the country where theres no media around...
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Damn, they're really cracking down on the treasure coast. Totally sux, i go there every year to visit fam. I hope this shit was for soliciting more than a happy ending.....
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Local radio out of Tampa played some piece of trash radio/multi-media personality out of NE blaming 100% of all this on Roger Goodfella trying to end their football empire. As much as I can't stand Roger, sometimes these multi-millionaire brats in this county need to be held accountable.
I would have loved to ask the Chowda Head with only 2 brain cells on speaking terms, what if it was HIS daughter being traffic'd? Then I would have followed with who had the pistol to Kraft's temple each of his visits? For a guy smart enough in business, he sure got conveniently ignorant in these decisions in a hurry. Then again, it sure sounds like a lot of very wealthy people have been frequenting that establishment without any worries or consequences for quite some time giving me the sense this was very calculated by Kraft.
They should kick his asss right out of the NFL.
Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
WSS
Oh please. I certainly understand the jealousy of most of the league toward the Patriots and the middle-class against the rich but for God's sake this is a misdemeanor. Nobody is suggesting that he's on the ground floor of some huge human trafficking scheme. Besides that there's a good chance the misdemeanor itself will be dropped like Callaway's weed possession charge.
WSS
Apparently, I hold you to a higher standard than you want to hold for yourself in this one Steve so hear me out. First, I've always thought Robert Kraft was a great owner that deserved to be well respected BEFORE this went down. I've also never been shy about posting my respect for Belichick regardless of how unpopular that was at times. I rooted for NE in the last Superbowl which seems pretty outrageous if I'm just jealous of NE or its owner. Disappointed is a much better summary; because he sure fooled my asss all this time.
Not to be outdone, I got the same kick in the Adam's Apple that I got when I learned what Joe Paterno was allowing to go on in HIS program/under HIS rule. Little boys and teens getting sodomized against their will there isn't that much different than girls in the same age groups that have been trafficked to sex for profit against their will (regardless of how many millionaires are power glommed into the clientele).
If you read the article or did a little research on the business he's contributed to and participated in more than once (at least on camera) - his actions are condoning and perpetuating what's going on. Spare me the ground floor argument and try reading up on the business one of his buddies referred him to as well as human trafficking. The 30 minutes of Florida radio I got on it all said there's about a 0% chance that any repeat customers have no knowledge of the trafficking taking place at the Rub and Spray. The ugly side of human trafficking involves females that are often well under 16 years old with zero care for their age/welfare once the profiting from their situation begins. Those that OWN them actually want them addicted to drugs so it gives them a need to stay and become more hopeless to their freedoms lost. Isn't there another crime if someone in the sexual act is under 16 years of age? Yeah, sweep that right under the rug too while you're at it. If you want to get somewhat of an idea what human trafficking is all about - watch the movie "Taken" sometime.
So, what was your beef to me again? "It's only a misdemeanor"? Phew!!!!!!!!!!! That changes everything Steve. GREAT guy! So was Joe Paterno by your standard. Was Paterno ever even arrested in all that time he could have been? You must have been able to correct a lot of people with that one. He may only get the slap on the wrist you want; but I can't help but think of him similar to the way I ended up thinking of Paterno. 2 guys with so much power that only wanted to plead ignorant when they could have done something about a very ugly situation unfolding all around them. It surprises me a guy like you that always wants to look at the why and how only wants to conclude it's only a misdemeanor, if that...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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