The Combine
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What has this got to do with what I said out of curiosity
It had nothing to do with your post regarding Saint Vincent Saint Mary, that was an accidental quote button hit by me. Apologies. It had more to do with when we were discussing prospects you didn't understand why I was so excited about a potential 6th round to undrafted pick or "drooling over an obscure prospect"
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Dexter, coming off of proven PED use already experiencing post-cycle injury problems (called that).... how odd.
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I remember one throw in particular, an over the shoulder pass dropped in about 30-40 yards down the right sideline. Murray has the arm strength, the accuracy, and the quickness to be a lot better than Jackson.
The throw is at the 2:33 off a playfake. That is a big time throw.
I remember one throw in particular, an over the shoulder pass dropped in about 30-40 yards down the right sideline. Murray has the arm strength, the accuracy, and the quickness to be a lot better than Jackson.
The throw is at the 2:33 off a playfake. That is a big time throw.
OK, watching those highlights- I'm changing my mind about Murray. Big time arm, big time accuracy. Definitely will be off the board before the Browns pick at #17, and that's a good thing.
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I remember one throw in particular, an over the shoulder pass dropped in about 30-40 yards down the right sideline. Murray has the arm strength, the accuracy, and the quickness to be a lot better than Jackson.
The throw is at the 2:33 off a playfake. That is a big time throw.
OK, watching those highlights- I'm changing my mind about Murray. Big time arm, big time accuracy. Definitely will be off the board before the Browns pick at #17, and that's a good thing.
OK, watching those highlights- I'm changing my mind about Murray. Big time arm, big time accuracy. Definitely will be off the board before the Browns pick at #17, and that's a good thing.
Outside of size(which is a very fair)his play is eerily similar to mahomes and Mayfield. Yet somehow were going through the same song and dance we did for those guys that his game wont translate to the NFL. I dont see the cardinals pulling that trigger, but I'd even double down and say he will go top 8, guaranteed.
Oh, and anyone who is trying to compare him to Lamar is incredibly obtuse thinking.
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I'm so happy that the Browns aren't looking for their QB in this class...
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I remember one throw in particular, an over the shoulder pass dropped in about 30-40 yards down the right sideline. Murray has the arm strength, the accuracy, and the quickness to be a lot better than Jackson.
The throw is at the 2:33 off a playfake. That is a big time throw.
OK, watching those highlights- I'm changing my mind about Murray. Big time arm, big time accuracy. Definitely will be off the board before the Browns pick at #17, and that's a good thing.
OK, watching those highlights- I'm changing my mind about Murray. Big time arm, big time accuracy. Definitely will be off the board before the Browns pick at #17, and that's a good thing.
He will be the first QB off the board....at #1.
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Devin Bush ran a 4.43, had a 40.5" very, and had 21 reps.
The Devin's were killing it
What position does he play?
What position does he play?
LB
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I'm so happy that the Browns aren't looking for their QB in this class...
I'm so happy that the Browns aren't looking for their QB in this class...
Me too.
Mike
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Well, what a defensive class we have here!! South of the border, I am a bandwagon Clemson fan..Disappointed Lawrence & mainly Tre Lamar went down to injuries.confused on why Ferrell did not run 40. Quinton Williams 1.69 split at 303 lbs. is a Aaron Donald ridiculous. Sweat 1.55 & Brian Burns shocker at 1.57 crazy good..If anyone can help me out on some mid round LB'ers? That's my next tape stop next..Guys am familiar with are Kendall Joesph & Germaine Pratt (i really like him at nc state). The long armed coverage guy new to me is TCU? Bobby Okereke & ND Drue TranQuil looks like a spunk guy JD would interview.. Could Devin Bush at 4.44, cover Noah Fant at 4.51??
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Not as far fetched (regarding Murray) as I thought a week ago. So what happens to Rosen? And their defense is in serious need of help...
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
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Not as far fetched (regarding Murray) as I thought a week ago. So what happens to Rosen? And their defense is in serious need of help...
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
I am not a defender of Murray as a pick. I watched his inability to read defenses and his pop fly long ball that was a joy for SEC DB's before transferring to OK., which had one of the best OLs anywhere and lower level of competition. He was still a run first QB and that does not bode well in the NFL. It's also why he never beat out Baker, but had to inherit the job his last and only full year of starting as a college QB. He should have stuck with baseball.
That said he will still go high in a QB needy league in a down year for QBs. And I agree Rosen would fair better with the Giants. And I have no idea why the Cards would take a coach who rose on the coattails of a backyard QB like JM and a great player like Mahomes. I'm calling a big fail on that coaching pick right now.
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Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
I am not a defender of Murray as a pick. I watched his inability to read defenses and his pop fly long ball that was a joy for SEC DB's before transferring to OK., which had one of the best OLs anywhere and lower level of competition. He was still a run first QB and that does not bode well in the NFL. It's also why he never beat out Baker, but had to inherit the job his last and only full year of starting as a college QB. He should have stuck with baseball.
That said he will still go high in a QB needy league in a down year for QBs. And I agree Rosen would fair better with the Giants. And I have no idea why the Cards would take a coach who rose on the coattails of a backyard QB like JM and a great player like Mahomes. I'm calling a big fail on that coaching pick right now.
And I have no idea why the Cards would take a coach who rose on the coattails of a backyard QB like JM and a great player like Mahomes. I'm calling a big fail on that coaching pick right now.
GM Steve Keim is a bafloon..He grabbed the coattails of Zona, back in 1999 as a scout & has never been let go(yet). The owner in Zona maybe on the same short bus Haslam drove for Manziel at the draft? Keim & KK both got 4 year deals, Keim got extended in Feb of 2018, than in July of 18, Keim blows a extreme DUi of .19..As most owners have proved. Keim maybe looking for that last big splash with Kyler to save his...job....? long wick till april
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Not as far fetched (regarding Murray) as I thought a week ago. So what happens to Rosen? And their defense is in serious need of help...
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
More reports say that will be Haskins' fate. And a lot say that Rosen could be going to the Pats to sit behind Brady for their #32 pick.
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And I have no idea why the Cards would take a coach who rose on the coattails of a backyard QB like JM and a great player like Mahomes. I'm calling a big fail on that coaching pick right now.
GM Steve Keim is a bafloon..He grabbed the coattails of Zona, back in 1999 as a scout & has never been let go(yet). The owner in Zona maybe on the same short bus Haslam drove for Manziel at the draft? Keim & KK both got 4 year deals, Keim got extended in Feb of 2018, than in July of 18, Keim blows a extreme DUi of .19..As most owners have proved. Keim maybe looking for that last big splash with Kyler to save his...job....? long wick till april
The owner in Zona maybe on the same short bus Haslam drove for Manziel at the draft?
lol.....classic!
As per Rosen....I don't see how you give up on a high 1st round QB draft pick in 1 year. That would certainly be 'short bus' material.
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Not as far fetched (regarding Murray) as I thought a week ago. So what happens to Rosen? And their defense is in serious need of help...
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
They trade Rosen, means they're 100% sure Murray is going to be Aaron Rodgers good. I'm not. Absolutely unprecedented for a team to give up on a high first round QB after one season. And Rosen wasn't that bad.
More reports say that will be Haskins' fate. And a lot say that Rosen could be going to the Pats to sit behind Brady for their #32 pick.
I initially laughed at the thought #32 that's all Rosen was worth. Turns out, the talking heads at the Combine asked some GMs off the record- and it's even less! Third round. Shocking, to say the least.
Talk about buying high, and selling low. Sounds like a pre Dorsey Brownsian screw up waiting to happen. As said by Gumby, a Manzelian splash PR move by a GM wanting to save his job. Not only that, besides giving up on Rosen, they gave the Raiders third and fifth round picks to get him in the first place.
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Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
They trade Rosen, means they're 100% sure Murray is going to be Aaron Rodgers good. I'm not. Absolutely unprecedented for a team to give up on a high first round QB after one season. And Rosen wasn't that bad.
More reports say that will be Haskins' fate. And a lot say that Rosen could be going to the Pats to sit behind Brady for their #32 pick.
I initially laughed at the thought #32 that's all Rosen was worth. Turns out, the talking heads at the Combine asked some GMs off the record- and it's even less! Third round. Shocking, to say the least.
Talk about buying high, and selling low. Sounds like a pre Dorsey Brownsian screw up waiting to happen. As said by Gumby, a Manzelian splash PR move by a GM wanting to save his job. Not only that, besides giving up on Rosen, they gave the Raiders third and fifth round picks to get him in the first place.
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Chalk it up to him being a rich kid with an attitude, because he sure can spin it.
The entire team was so bad, kinda tough to grade Rosen.
Hey, all that matters is that the Browns finally got the qb right.
Cannot wait till September.
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Rosen will get traded. Maybe to the Giants? They are looking for a QB to take over for Manning next year. A year of sitting behind Manning might do Rosen some good.
They trade Rosen, means they're 100% sure Murray is going to be Aaron Rodgers good. I'm not. Absolutely unprecedented for a team to give up on a high first round QB after one season. And Rosen wasn't that bad.
More reports say that will be Haskins' fate. And a lot say that Rosen could be going to the Pats to sit behind Brady for their #32 pick.
I initially laughed at the thought #32 that's all Rosen was worth. Turns out, the talking heads at the Combine asked some GMs off the record- and it's even less! Third round. Shocking, to say the least.
Talk about buying high, and selling low. Sounds like a pre Dorsey Brownsian screw up waiting to happen. As said by Gumby, a Manzelian splash PR move by a GM wanting to save his job. Not only that, besides giving up on Rosen, they gave the Raiders third and fifth round picks to get him in the first place.
They trade Rosen, means they're 100% sure Murray is going to be Aaron Rodgers good. I'm not. Absolutely
for a team to give up on a high first round QB after one season. And Rosen wasn't that bad.
I initially laughed at the thought #32 that's all Rosen was worth. Turns out, the talking heads at the Combine asked some GMs off the record- and it's even less! Third round. Shocking, to say the least.
Talk about buying high, and selling low. Sounds like a pre Dorsey Brownsian screw up waiting to happen. As said by Gumby, a Manzelian splash PR move by a GM wanting to save his job. Not only that, besides giving up on Rosen, they gave the Raiders third and fifth round picks to get him in the first place.
Go to show any team can flub it up.
I agree with Hoorta it will be unprecedented to trade Rosen at this point, but I don't see room on the team for both players. No doubt that would split the team and fanbase.
I said this back in the Couch days. The only thing worse than blowing a top pick is sticking with a blown pick.
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They trade Rosen, means they're 100% sure Murray is going to be Aaron Rodgers good. I'm not. Absolutely
for a team to give up on a high first round QB after one season. And Rosen wasn't that bad.
I initially laughed at the thought #32 that's all Rosen was worth. Turns out, the talking heads at the Combine asked some GMs off the record- and it's even less! Third round. Shocking, to say the least.
Talk about buying high, and selling low. Sounds like a pre Dorsey Brownsian screw up waiting to happen. As said by Gumby, a Manzelian splash PR move by a GM wanting to save his job. Not only that, besides giving up on Rosen, they gave the Raiders third and fifth round picks to get him in the first place.
Go to show any team can flub it up.
I agree with Hoorta it will be unprecedented to trade Rosen at this point, but I don't see room on the team for both players. No doubt that would split the team and fanbase.
I said this back in the Couch days. The only thing worse than blowing a top pick is sticking with a blown pick.
The only thing worse than blowing a top pick is sticking with a blown pick.
And I agree with those who think it is way too early to pronounce Rosen as a blown pick. Get him an OL and rebuild his D!
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