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  • He would’ve gotten this deal this year had he played last year, so that whole episode was basically all for naught

  • He would’ve gotten this deal this year had he played last year, so that whole episode was basically all for naught

    @cvcanedy said:

    He would’ve gotten this deal this year had he played last year, so that whole episode was basically all for naught

    That's absolutely not true. Seriously ya'll, you need to read up on why these guys are wildin-it's about the guaranteed money. 

    It's always thrown out that Bell turned down a deal to become "the highest paid RB by year in the NFL", which is true. However, you can offer a player in the NFL $1 billion contract and it doesn't mean squat if the money isn't guaranteed in the deal. In actuality, the Steelers final offer had about $10 of truly guaranteed money: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/17/report-final-leveon-bell-offer-had-10m-fully-guaranteed/. As I have noted, that amount of money is a slap in the face to a guy of Bell's ability.

    Conversely, by sitting a year Bell got a contract with $35 million guaranteed: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/leveon-bell-contract-agreement-jets. He played the system to get $25 million more of guaranteed money. Even if you exclude the $14.5 of money he could have made on the franchise tag, by sitting a year he put $20 million or so of that type of cash.

    NOW, the argument I can't really go against is that he could have played under the tag last year and then gotten this deal, i.e. losing out on the 14.5 mil + the $35 mil guaranteed. However, Bell banked on staying healthy and getting the deal is all I can say.

  • @cvcanedy said:

    He would’ve gotten this deal this year had he played last year, so that whole episode was basically all for naught

    That's absolutely not true. Seriously ya'll, you need to read up on why these guys are wildin-it's about the guaranteed money. 

    It's always thrown out that Bell turned down a deal to become "the highest paid RB by year in the NFL", which is true. However, you can offer a player in the NFL $1 billion contract and it doesn't mean squat if the money isn't guaranteed in the deal. In actuality, the Steelers final offer had about $10 of truly guaranteed money: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/17/report-final-leveon-bell-offer-had-10m-fully-guaranteed/. As I have noted, that amount of money is a slap in the face to a guy of Bell's ability.

    Conversely, by sitting a year Bell got a contract with $35 million guaranteed: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/leveon-bell-contract-agreement-jets. He played the system to get $25 million more of guaranteed money. Even if you exclude the $14.5 of money he could have made on the franchise tag, by sitting a year he put $20 million or so of that type of cash.

    NOW, the argument I can't really go against is that he could have played under the tag last year and then gotten this deal, i.e. losing out on the 14.5 mil + the $35 mil guaranteed. However, Bell banked on staying healthy and getting the deal is all I can say.

    @jrb12711 said:

    That's absolutely not true. Seriously ya'll, you need to read up on why these guys are wildin-it's about the guaranteed money. 

    It's always thrown out that Bell turned down a deal to become "the highest paid RB by year in the NFL", which is true. However, you can offer a player in the NFL $1 billion contract and it doesn't mean squat if the money isn't guaranteed in the deal. In actuality, the Steelers final offer had about $10 of truly guaranteed money: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/17/report-final-leveon-bell-offer-had-10m-fully-guaranteed/. As I have noted, that amount of money is a slap in the face to a guy of Bell's ability.

    Conversely, by sitting a year Bell got a contract with $35 million guaranteed: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/leveon-bell-contract-agreement-jets. He played the system to get $25 million more of guaranteed money. Even if you exclude the $14.5 of money he could have made on the franchise tag, by sitting a year he put $20 million or so of that type of cash.

    NOW, the argument I can't really go against is that he could have played under the tag last year and then gotten this deal, i.e. losing out on the 14.5 mil + the $35 mil guaranteed. However, Bell banked on staying healthy and getting the deal is all I can say.

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

  • Good signing that will help Darnold... should be the 2nd-coming of HOFer Curtis Martin.

    That said... Jets aren't going to go anywhere by adding Bell and Mosely plus Anderson.

  • Well... That means we are still facing him this year 

  • @jrb12711 said:

    That's absolutely not true. Seriously ya'll, you need to read up on why these guys are wildin-it's about the guaranteed money. 

    It's always thrown out that Bell turned down a deal to become "the highest paid RB by year in the NFL", which is true. However, you can offer a player in the NFL $1 billion contract and it doesn't mean squat if the money isn't guaranteed in the deal. In actuality, the Steelers final offer had about $10 of truly guaranteed money: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/17/report-final-leveon-bell-offer-had-10m-fully-guaranteed/. As I have noted, that amount of money is a slap in the face to a guy of Bell's ability.

    Conversely, by sitting a year Bell got a contract with $35 million guaranteed: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03/13/leveon-bell-contract-agreement-jets. He played the system to get $25 million more of guaranteed money. Even if you exclude the $14.5 of money he could have made on the franchise tag, by sitting a year he put $20 million or so of that type of cash.

    NOW, the argument I can't really go against is that he could have played under the tag last year and then gotten this deal, i.e. losing out on the 14.5 mil + the $35 mil guaranteed. However, Bell banked on staying healthy and getting the deal is all I can say.

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    @the-gipper said:

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    Go suck Ben's cock , Pookie!.. And you don't "let us" do anything.. We do what we want here , weather your here or not.... If you leave here tomorrow.. no one will give 2 shits.. Now go crawl back into your slime hole and disappear ,,,,, Now you fuckers will see what its like to be the underdog for a change.. Good luck with that..

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

  • @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    @hoorta said:

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    The steelers had over 20m in room. They signed Steven Nelson and donte moncrief and have ten picks in the draft. The Browns look nice on paper. You still have to play the games. The Browns have had to suck for a really long time to get to this point. What do you want to bet the steelers don't suck?

  • @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    Go suck Ben's cock , Pookie!.. And you don't "let us" do anything.. We do what we want here , weather your here or not.... If you leave here tomorrow.. no one will give 2 shits.. Now go crawl back into your slime hole and disappear ,,,,, Now you fuckers will see what its like to be the underdog for a change.. Good luck with that..

    @nickers said:

    Go suck Ben's cock , Pookie!.. And you don't "let us" do anything.. We do what we want here , weather your here or not.... If you leave here tomorrow.. no one will give 2 shits.. Now go crawl back into your slime hole and disappear ,,,,, Now you fuckers will see what its like to be the underdog for a change.. Good luck with that..

    Oh nickers, go get your shine box.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    The steelers had over 20m in room. They signed Steven Nelson and donte moncrief and have ten picks in the draft. The Browns look nice on paper. You still have to play the games. The Browns have had to suck for a really long time to get to this point. What do you want to bet the steelers don't suck?

    @vagitron said:

    The steelers had over 20m in room. They signed Steven Nelson and donte moncrief and have ten picks in the draft. The Browns look nice on paper. You still have to play the games. The Browns have had to suck for a really long time to get to this point. What do you want to bet the steelers don't suck?

    You didn't address the "missing the play offs and just fine" bit 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    You sound stressed...

    Maybe you should take a season off to adjust to the new reality?

  • @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    You sound stressed...

    Maybe you should take a season off to adjust to the new reality?

    @tour2ma said:

    You sound stressed...

    Maybe you should take a season off to adjust to the new reality?

    "Therefore never send to know for whom the Bell tolls; ....."?

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one cares about his money....except him, his wife and his agent.   I only care that the Steelers lost an outstanding player and are worse off for it now.

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    You may have been "fine"...but is "fine" sufficient?  Your offense was not as good as it was with Bell.  Conner did well as NFL RBs go....but he didn't come close to the kind of production that Bell regularly gave you. 

    And I am Santa because I come bearing a gift for you:    Knowledge.      Bell is gone and now AB is gone, and you think that you are just as good with Conner and and Sidney Moncrief?   The knowledge for you is this:  No, you are not.

    So, I am glad to know that for Steelers  being "fine" means missing the playoffs.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    The steelers had over 20m in room. They signed Steven Nelson and donte moncrief and have ten picks in the draft. The Browns look nice on paper. You still have to play the games. The Browns have had to suck for a really long time to get to this point. What do you want to bet the steelers don't suck?

    @vagitron said:

    The steelers had over 20m in room. They signed Steven Nelson and donte moncrief and have ten picks in the draft. The Browns look nice on paper. You still have to play the games. The Browns have had to suck for a really long time to get to this point. What do you want to bet the steelers don't suck?

    It has only taken the Browns 16 months to go from  suck until this point.  The process did not really take that long....once Dorsey came on board.

    But I agree with you on two things:

    A. Absolutely the Browns have to prove it on the field.  The apparently treasure trove of new good players they have still have to actually work together...along with a rookie HC.

    B. The Steeler won't "suck" ...as in be like 5-11.  They will be about a .500 team.   That is not "sucking"....but that is about what they will be.

  • @vagitron said:

    I've been letting people bask in what is happening with the Browns and just reading. Leave it to you to bring me out of the woodwork. Bell didn't fucking play last season dipshit and the steelers were just fine. Connor missed 4 games last year and was on a torrid pace. We didn't miss bell. We won't miss him this season either. He's BEEN GONE! Go feed the reindeer Santa.

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    @hoorta said:

    If you consider "fine" missing the playoffs. Yeah, unusual for you- but you just might have to get used to the idea. Perusing the Steelers depth chart, you have a few major holes- and lotsa luck trying to fill all of them in what's left in FA with $10 million of cap room. Or the draft, which according to you, the Steelers never miss on a pick.  

    Like they missed on Landry Jones and Josh Dobbs,, they both SUCK!

  • @nickers said:

    Go suck Ben's cock , Pookie!.. And you don't "let us" do anything.. We do what we want here , weather your here or not.... If you leave here tomorrow.. no one will give 2 shits.. Now go crawl back into your slime hole and disappear ,,,,, Now you fuckers will see what its like to be the underdog for a change.. Good luck with that..

    Oh nickers, go get your shine box.

    @vagitron said:

    Oh nickers, go get your shine box.

    Go shine Tomlin's PUD! It's all your good for...

  • Jets release RB Crowell after 1 season

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