The Pick At 49

[The Gipper]

Thornhill. Virginia  DB

[MLD Woody]

@dutch-oven said:

A defensive player from TTUN.

Nonstop Woody vs the World hilarity ensues... again. ? 

in a perfect world the NFL gets all worried about Bush being a little short, he falls, and we trade back up to snag him. Top player at a position of need.

that said, Winovich would be a great consolation prize

the universe owes this to me!

[JimmyDawg32]

Dorsey makes a draft day trade as follows:  Browns trade 2nd round pick (49) a 5th round pick (155) and Duke Johnson to Philly for their 1st round pick (26) and Rasual Douglas.

Browns draft one of the three:  CB Greedy Williams, DT Jeffrey Simmons or best OL available.

[Ibleedbrown]

Deionte Thompson

[Zombo]

I don't know the guys well enough, but I will pick the position: Cornerback.

My Guess:

Cornerback 50%

Linebacker 40%

Tackle 5%

Something else 5%

Zombo

[7moses7]

Jamel Dean  CB. Auburn 

[Tour2ma]

I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

DS Rank	Player Name	College	Projected	Height	Weight	40 Time Range	Hometown, State	High School
1	*Greedy Williams	LSU	1 (80.5)	6-2	182	4.33 - 4.46	Shreveport,LA	Calvary Baptist Academy
2	*Byron Murphy	Washington	1 (92.0)	5-11	189	4.46 - 4.60	Scottsdale,AZ	Saguaro
3	DeAndre Baker	Georgia	1 (89.4)	5-11	190	4.44 - 4.59	Miami,FL	Northwestern
4	*Trayvon Mullen	Clemson	2 (78.0)	6-2	195	4.38 - 4.54	Fort Lauderdale,,FL	Coconut Creek
5	Amani Oruwariye	Penn State	2 (79.1)	6-2	205	4.42 - 4.56	Tampa,FL	Gaither
6	Rock Ya-Sin	Temple	2 (87.5)	6-0	192	4.45 - 4.59	Decatur,GA	Southwest Dekalb
7	Lonnie Johnson Jr.	Kentucky	2 (72.6)	6-2	210	4.40 - 4.58	Gary,IN	Gary West Side
8	*JoeJuan Williams	Vanderbilt	2-3 (81.0)	6-4	211	4.55 - 4.68	Nashville,TN	Father Ryan/Hendersonville
9	*Julian Love	Notre Dame	2-3 (90.4)	5-11	195	4.45 - 4.59	Westchester,IL	Nazareth
10	Isaiah Johnson	Houston	2-3 (70.7)	6-2	205	4.30 - 4.47	Bryan,TX	Rudder
11	*Justin Layne	Michigan State	3 (87.1)	6-2	192	4.42 - 4.58	Cleveland,OH	Benedictine
12	*Kendall Sheffield	Ohio State	3 (???)	5-11	193	4.26 - 4.46	Missouri City,TX	Thurgood Marshall
13	*Sean Bunting	Central Michigan	3-4 (75.4)	6-0	195	4.35 - 4.49	Clinton Township,MI	Chippewa Valley
14	*Saivion Smith	Alabama	4 (78.4)	6-1	203	4.50 - 4.78	Tampa,FL	IMG Academy
15	*Jamel Dean	Auburn	4 (80.8)	6-1	206	4.24 - 4.38	Cocoa,FL	Cocoa

[gumby73]

Sent my Creed cd to Browns Headquarters attention to The Dorse..it's not been returned

  Combining the "so called" needs, to future Contract outlooks ?.. Where does a high draft pick selection have a chance to start at any position? starts with BPA,imo..Tier 1--1)OT 2)LB 3)CB..Tier 2--Depth at DT & both Safeties. Kirksey & Hubbard both have manageable cap hits of M 2.4 after this season. Tretter M 1.5. G.Robinson is on a 1 year deal.. I have no clear picture of the Corbett, maybe Dorsey does?..Both D. Randall & Schobert could chase big dollars after next season..This maybe the season to draft a true Tackle at some point, imo..not so much next draft with this depth class.. Without planning on giving up our 1st rounder next season? Pick 33 on down, is doable..4-5 quality draftees fit this roster now..Get some! In Dorsey we trust.. checking out the team visits? I may have a true target by the 20th.. 

[tiamat63]

@mld-woody said:

in a perfect world the NFL gets all worried about Bush being a little short, he falls, and we trade back up to snag him. Top player at a position of need.

that said, Winovich would be a great consolation prize

the universe owes this to me!

Hilariously enough, I value chase lower than I did Peppers (who I was cool with 2nd round-ish)

[Unsympathetic]

If Winovich somehow falls, you take him.

You take him immediately.

[Tour2ma]

At 49??? No thanks...

Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

[MLD Woody]

He definitely has to fight that "try hard, but not athletic white guy" stereotype. 

and he'll do whatever he can to play though injury, and I imagine he won't be sitting out for any amount of time...

But with how loaded the DL class is, he'll fall. 

[Tour2ma]

@tour2ma said:

Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back. 

IN summary... I can see him as a 3-4 OLB used ala Clay Jr. in GB, but he's not a scheme fit for us... and he's not elite enough to change schemes to accommodate him.

[Dutch Oven]

@tour2ma said:

At 49??? No thanks...

Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

I was just going to ask what position he would play in the 4-3, since it seems like he's a bit of a tweener in it. 

[Tour2ma]

@dutch-oven said:

I was just going to ask what position he would play in the 4-3, since it seems like he's a bit of a tweener in it. 

Holy simul-post, Batman!

I was just explaining my take a bit more in the post above yours...

@tour2ma said:

IN summary... I can see him as a 3-4 OLB used ala Clay Jr. in GB, but he's not a scheme fit for us... and he's not elite enough to change schemes to accommodate him.

[MLD Woody]

Well he was recruited as a 4* LB, was then moved to TE, then moved back to the DL. 

According to their combine numbers, he's not too far off from Vernon

Vernon - 6'2", 33" arms, 261 lbs

Winovich - 6'3", 32 3/4" arms, 256 lbs

[Tour2ma]

That 1/4" makes all the difference...

Anyway, that's what she said...

[Gunz41]

@jimmydawg32 said:

Dorsey makes a draft day trade as follows:  Browns trade 2nd round pick (49) a 5th round pick (155) and Duke Johnson to Philly for their 1st round pick (26) and Rasual Douglas.

Browns draft one of the three:  CB Greedy Williams, DT Jeffrey Simmons or best OL available.

I could certainly see a trade, but this one makes little sense for PHI. They just got Jordan Howard, and have other backs for a committee.

I like Duke, but I don't think he is worth that much in a trade. 

I think there will be someone wherever the Browns draft that can help them, I'm guessing it's a defender 

[Zombo]

@tour2ma said:

I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

Zombo

[Tour2ma]

Zombo said:

I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

Not a bad choice, but if we are going to ignore PFF's grades then let's go with another U of H kid... Isaiah Johnson. Same height as Lonnie, but faster and crushed the 3-cone with a 6.81 vs. Lonnie's 7.01.

Lonnie's only edge is 1.5" more vertical...