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  • Jamel Dean  CB. Auburn 

  • I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

    For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

    Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

    DS Rank
    		 Player Name  College Projected Height Weight 40 Time Range Hometown, State High School
    1
    		 *Greedy Williams  same.gif  LSU 1 (80.5) 6-2 182 4.33 - 4.46 Shreveport,LA Calvary Baptist Academy
    2
    		 *Byron Murphy  same.gif  Washington 1 (92.0) 5-11 189 4.46 - 4.60 Scottsdale,AZ Saguaro
    3
    		 DeAndre Baker  same.gif  Georgia 1 (89.4) 5-11 190 4.44 - 4.59 Miami,FL Northwestern
    4
    		 *Trayvon Mullen  same.gif  Clemson 2 (78.0) 6-2 195 4.38 - 4.54 Fort Lauderdale,,FL Coconut Creek
    5
    		 Amani Oruwariye  same.gif  Penn State 2 (79.1) 6-2 205 4.42 - 4.56 Tampa,FL Gaither
    6
    		 Rock Ya-Sin  same.gif  Temple 2 (87.5) 6-0 192 4.45 - 4.59 Decatur,GA Southwest Dekalb
    7
    		 Lonnie Johnson Jr.  same.gif  Kentucky 2 (72.6) 6-2 210 4.40 - 4.58 Gary,IN Gary West Side
    8
    		 *JoeJuan Williams  same.gif  Vanderbilt 2-3 (81.0) 6-4 211 4.55 - 4.68 Nashville,TN Father Ryan/Hendersonville
    9
    		 *Julian Love  same.gif  Notre Dame 2-3 (90.4) 5-11 195 4.45 - 4.59 Westchester,IL Nazareth
    10
    		 Isaiah Johnson  up.gif  Houston 2-3 (70.7) 6-2 205 4.30 - 4.47 Bryan,TX Rudder
    11
    		 *Justin Layne  same.gif  Michigan State 3 (87.1) 6-2 192 4.42 - 4.58 Cleveland,OH Benedictine
    12
    		 *Kendall Sheffield  injury.gif  Ohio State 3 (???) 5-11 193 4.26 - 4.46 Missouri City,TX Thurgood Marshall
    13
    		 *Sean Bunting  up.gif  Central Michigan 3-4 (75.4) 6-0 195 4.35 - 4.49 Clinton Township,MI Chippewa Valley
    14
    		 *Saivion Smith  same.gif  Alabama 4 (78.4) 6-1 203 4.50 - 4.78 Tampa,FL IMG Academy
    15
    		 *Jamel Dean  up.gif  Auburn 4 (80.8) 6-1 206 4.24 - 4.38 Cocoa,FL Cocoa
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  • Sent my Creed cd to Browns Headquarters attention to The Dorse..it's not been returned😉

      Combining the "so called" needs, to future Contract outlooks ?.. Where does a high draft pick selection have a chance to start at any position? starts with BPA,imo..Tier 1--1)OT 2)LB 3)CB..Tier 2--Depth at DT & both Safeties. Kirksey & Hubbard both have manageable cap hits of M 2.4 after this season. Tretter M 1.5. G.Robinson is on a 1 year deal.. I have no clear picture of the Corbett, maybe Dorsey does?..Both D. Randall & Schobert could chase big dollars after next season..This maybe the season to draft a true Tackle at some point, imo..not so much next draft with this depth class.. Without planning on giving up our 1st rounder next season? Pick 33 on down, is doable..4-5 quality draftees fit this roster now..Get some! In Dorsey we trust.. checking out the team visits? I may have a true target by the 20th.. 

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @dutch-oven said:

    A defensive player from TTUN.

    Nonstop Woody vs the World hilarity ensues... again. ? 

    in a perfect world the NFL gets all worried about Bush being a little short, he falls, and we trade back up to snag him. Top player at a position of need.

    that said, Winovich would be a great consolation prize 😉

    the universe owes this to me!

    @mld-woody said:

    in a perfect world the NFL gets all worried about Bush being a little short, he falls, and we trade back up to snag him. Top player at a position of need.

    that said, Winovich would be a great consolation prize 😉

    the universe owes this to me!

    Hilariously enough, I value chase lower than I did Peppers (who I was cool with 2nd round-ish)

  • If Winovich somehow falls, you take him.

    You take him immediately.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • At 49??? No thanks...

    Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • He definitely has to fight that "try hard, but not athletic white guy" stereotype. 

    and he'll do whatever he can to play though injury, and I imagine he won't be sitting out for any amount of time...

    But with how loaded the DL class is, he'll fall. 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    At 49??? No thanks...

    Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

    @tour2ma said:

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back. 

    IN summary... I can see him as a 3-4 OLB used ala Clay Jr. in GB, but he's not a scheme fit for us... and he's not elite enough to change schemes to accommodate him.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    At 49??? No thanks...

    Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

    @tour2ma said:

    At 49??? No thanks...

    Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

    I was just going to ask what position he would play in the 4-3, since it seems like he's a bit of a tweener in it. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @tour2ma said:

    At 49??? No thanks...

    Really strong against the run... especially for his size, but he's never going to a pressure guy vs. the pass. Nice burst, but short with short arms will have NFL OTs eating him up if he's on the LOS.

    Now as a roving OLB? Maybe, but his coverage makes him a liability to drop back.

    I was just going to ask what position he would play in the 4-3, since it seems like he's a bit of a tweener in it. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I was just going to ask what position he would play in the 4-3, since it seems like he's a bit of a tweener in it. 

    Holy simul-post, Batman!

    I was just explaining my take a bit more in the post above yours...

    @tour2ma said:

    IN summary... I can see him as a 3-4 OLB used ala Clay Jr. in GB, but he's not a scheme fit for us... and he's not elite enough to change schemes to accommodate him.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Well he was recruited as a 4* LB, was then moved to TE, then moved back to the DL. 

    According to their combine numbers, he's not too far off from Vernon

    Vernon - 6'2", 33" arms, 261 lbs

    Winovich - 6'3", 32 3/4" arms, 256 lbs

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • That 1/4" makes all the difference...

    Anyway, that's what she said... 😉

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • J JimmyDawg32

    Dorsey makes a draft day trade as follows:  Browns trade 2nd round pick (49) a 5th round pick (155) and Duke Johnson to Philly for their 1st round pick (26) and Rasual Douglas.

    Browns draft one of the three:  CB Greedy Williams, DT Jeffrey Simmons or best OL available.

    @jimmydawg32 said:

    Dorsey makes a draft day trade as follows:  Browns trade 2nd round pick (49) a 5th round pick (155) and Duke Johnson to Philly for their 1st round pick (26) and Rasual Douglas.

    Browns draft one of the three:  CB Greedy Williams, DT Jeffrey Simmons or best OL available.

    I could certainly see a trade, but this one makes little sense for PHI. They just got Jordan Howard, and have other backs for a committee.

    I like Duke, but I don't think he is worth that much in a trade. 

    I think there will be someone wherever the Browns draft that can help them, I'm guessing it's a defender 

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

    For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

    Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

    DS Rank
    		 Player Name  College Projected Height Weight 40 Time Range Hometown, State High School
    1
    		 *Greedy Williams  same.gif  LSU 1 (80.5) 6-2 182 4.33 - 4.46 Shreveport,LA Calvary Baptist Academy
    2
    		 *Byron Murphy  same.gif  Washington 1 (92.0) 5-11 189 4.46 - 4.60 Scottsdale,AZ Saguaro
    3
    		 DeAndre Baker  same.gif  Georgia 1 (89.4) 5-11 190 4.44 - 4.59 Miami,FL Northwestern
    4
    		 *Trayvon Mullen  same.gif  Clemson 2 (78.0) 6-2 195 4.38 - 4.54 Fort Lauderdale,,FL Coconut Creek
    5
    		 Amani Oruwariye  same.gif  Penn State 2 (79.1) 6-2 205 4.42 - 4.56 Tampa,FL Gaither
    6
    		 Rock Ya-Sin  same.gif  Temple 2 (87.5) 6-0 192 4.45 - 4.59 Decatur,GA Southwest Dekalb
    7
    		 Lonnie Johnson Jr.  same.gif  Kentucky 2 (72.6) 6-2 210 4.40 - 4.58 Gary,IN Gary West Side
    8
    		 *JoeJuan Williams  same.gif  Vanderbilt 2-3 (81.0) 6-4 211 4.55 - 4.68 Nashville,TN Father Ryan/Hendersonville
    9
    		 *Julian Love  same.gif  Notre Dame 2-3 (90.4) 5-11 195 4.45 - 4.59 Westchester,IL Nazareth
    10
    		 Isaiah Johnson  up.gif  Houston 2-3 (70.7) 6-2 205 4.30 - 4.47 Bryan,TX Rudder
    11
    		 *Justin Layne  same.gif  Michigan State 3 (87.1) 6-2 192 4.42 - 4.58 Cleveland,OH Benedictine
    12
    		 *Kendall Sheffield  injury.gif  Ohio State 3 (???) 5-11 193 4.26 - 4.46 Missouri City,TX Thurgood Marshall
    13
    		 *Sean Bunting  up.gif  Central Michigan 3-4 (75.4) 6-0 195 4.35 - 4.49 Clinton Township,MI Chippewa Valley
    14
    		 *Saivion Smith  same.gif  Alabama 4 (78.4) 6-1 203 4.50 - 4.78 Tampa,FL IMG Academy
    15
    		 *Jamel Dean  up.gif  Auburn 4 (80.8) 6-1 206 4.24 - 4.38 Cocoa,FL Cocoa

    @tour2ma said:

    I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

    For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

    Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

    I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    @tour2ma said:

    I can see a CB as well, but there are a lot from which to choose in that mid-2nd area...

    For grins I inserted their PFF grades in parentheses besides their DraftScout Round projection.

    Just shows to go ya that opinions vary...

    I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

    Not a bad choice, but if we are going to ignore PFF's grades then let's go with another U of H kid... Isaiah Johnson. Same height as Lonnie, but faster and crushed the 3-cone with a 6.81 vs. Lonnie's 7.01.

    Lonnie's only edge is 1.5" more vertical...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Zombo said:

    I'll go with Lonnie Johnson jr.  ... big body across from Ward.

    Not a bad choice, but if we are going to ignore PFF's grades then let's go with another U of H kid... Isaiah Johnson. Same height as Lonnie, but faster and crushed the 3-cone with a 6.81 vs. Lonnie's 7.01.

    Lonnie's only edge is 1.5" more vertical...

    @tour2ma said:

    Isaiah Johnson. Same height as Lonnie, but faster

    You can't teach speed. - He's fast.

    ...quite a crap-shoot trying to determine who pick #49 will be...and I wouldn't be surprised to see us move around in the second round.

    (No 1st round pick for us...but we have one of the best receivers in the game to place along side of Landry, Njoku & Calllaway/Higgins/Willies.....so far we're having a great draft)

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  • OrionO Orion

    @tour2ma said:

    Isaiah Johnson. Same height as Lonnie, but faster

    You can't teach speed. - He's fast.

    ...quite a crap-shoot trying to determine who pick #49 will be...and I wouldn't be surprised to see us move around in the second round.

    (No 1st round pick for us...but we have one of the best receivers in the game to place along side of Landry, Njoku & Calllaway/Higgins/Willies.....so far we're having a great draft)

    @orion said:

    ...quite a crap-shoot trying to determine who pick #49 will be

    Yup... it gets harder and harder every round after the 1st...

    ... and collectively we pretty well suck at nailing the 1st rounders, so...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Gunz41G Gunz41

    @jimmydawg32 said:

    Dorsey makes a draft day trade as follows:  Browns trade 2nd round pick (49) a 5th round pick (155) and Duke Johnson to Philly for their 1st round pick (26) and Rasual Douglas.

    Browns draft one of the three:  CB Greedy Williams, DT Jeffrey Simmons or best OL available.

    I could certainly see a trade, but this one makes little sense for PHI. They just got Jordan Howard, and have other backs for a committee.

    I like Duke, but I don't think he is worth that much in a trade. 

    I think there will be someone wherever the Browns draft that can help them, I'm guessing it's a defender 

    @gunz41 said:

    I could certainly see a trade, but this one makes little sense for PHI. They just got Jordan Howard, and have other backs for a committee.

    I like Duke, but I don't think he is worth that much in a trade. 

    I think there will be someone wherever the Browns draft that can help them, I'm guessing it's a defender 

    Even with the Jets adding L.Bell, it's still being reported that 3 teams including the Jets have interest in Duke. Reported also is we have interest in Jets Darron Lee's coverage skills at LB..The Browns own pick 3.16 in 3rd..The Jets have no 2nd rounder, but own two 3rd rounders of 3.4 & 3.29..Am wondering if the Lee/Duke deal gets done with us flipping Jets picks in 3rd & not sure which way it flips? 

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  • Might not be picking 49

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    Browns GM John Dorsey, who traded a 1st-round pick for Odell Beckham Jr., is considering trading back into the 1st round.

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  • Here’s a lengthy, athletic corner from Clemson, Trayvon Mullen, the 69th ranked player in the draft according to NFL.com. 6’1, sub 4.5 40 time, nice frame.

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