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  • @clevfan4life said:

    We simply cant fuck around with this "window". 

    You mean except for firing the entire staff should we stumble... 🥷

    This window has just cracked open... we have years to open it wide.

    @tour2ma said:

    You mean except for firing the entire staff should we stumble... 🥷

    This window has just cracked open... we have years to open it wide.

    u sure about that?  im no expert on contracts hut onve we have to.pay myles and baker...things will shrink up. Andbur forgetting obj could tbrow a tantrum at any point in time he oerceives a lesser talent getting more money than him.

  • @hoorta said:

    No, kiddo- I'll explain how things work around here, mostly because I've been here since day one. You've been here less than a week, and you want to tell us (more on that in a second) how to run things? ROTFLMAO!!!  Got much of an ego problem? Contrary opinions are allowed- as long as they have some merit. Spout total crap- it's going to get called out. Your list of other teams that improved may have been right in your mind- but it everyone else's- it was dead wrong.  There's posters who have played the game, or coached on a high level here, and they've forgotten more about football than you apparently know. There's other Browns message boards out there if you don't like it here. 

    Regarding us there's three moderators- Zombo, Mark O, and me, plus our board owner Kathy aka Hag II.  Mark hasn't been around of late as far as I know, but you've already honked Zombo and me off. Take that for what it's worth. As bjh said earlier in this thread, why should anyone bother even responding to you? Unfortunately, I can't put you on ignore (same reason I couldn't with our now departed resident troll Ghoolie) because part of the job of being a Mod is keeping the asylum somewhat under control.  

    No good sir I do not have an ego problem, perhaps I miscommunicated, my English is what you call inelegant. 

    Also im not sure or concerned who moderates or has been here and im just trying to explain to people to have a little humility regarding the Browns recent somewhat success. When they go 7-9 and 8-8 the year after you men will understand 

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    No good sir I do not have an ego problem, perhaps I miscommunicated, my English is what you call inelegant. 

    Also im not sure or concerned who moderates or has been here and im just trying to explain to people to have a little humility regarding the Browns recent somewhat success. When they go 7-9 and 8-8 the year after you men will understand 

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

  • I expect the team is going to struggle with occasional flashes of greatness.  Takes us 6 games to get it sorted out and we finish strong and end up 10 and 6...we beat the teams we should and struggle against better teams.

  • I expect the team is going to struggle with occasional flashes of greatness.  Takes us 6 games to get it sorted out and we finish strong and end up 10 and 6...we beat the teams we should and struggle against better teams.

    @kvoethe said:

    I expect the team is going to struggle with occasional flashes of greatness.  Takes us 6 games to get it sorted out and we finish strong and end up 10 and 6...we beat the teams we should and struggle against better teams.

    Unless you have a juggernaut- that's the way it works. Beat the teams you're supposed to beat, and split with the playoff teams... 

    If our resident Steeler troll is lurking- that's what kept Pittsburg out of the playoffs. Losing to teams they were supposed to beat. 

  • With the last 20 years of crap play.  Listing to player interviewers,.  I have high hopes. As long as all egos are in check.  We have the division and playoffs.  Dare I say Superbowl.

  • With the last 20 years of crap play.  Listing to player interviewers,.  I have high hopes. As long as all egos are in check.  We have the division and playoffs.  Dare I say Superbowl.

    @lbc-mike said:

     Dare I say Superbowl.

    im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast. But we have to be in the playoffs this year so that our guys "get it". If we're in the playoffs this year "im good" with whatever happens. Cause i KNOW the following year  the road to the SB goes through Cleveland. Bank it. 

    i will not hold this team, with a first time coach and a plethora of pieces that need to be fed...to any lofty playoff demands. But business needs to be handled in the division, PERIOD. Theres no excuse for not winningbthe division. 

  • @lbc-mike said:

     Dare I say Superbowl.

    im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast. But we have to be in the playoffs this year so that our guys "get it". If we're in the playoffs this year "im good" with whatever happens. Cause i KNOW the following year  the road to the SB goes through Cleveland. Bank it. 

    i will not hold this team, with a first time coach and a plethora of pieces that need to be fed...to any lofty playoff demands. But business needs to be handled in the division, PERIOD. Theres no excuse for not winningbthe division. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast.

    Agree...Team got a taste of winning in 2018.They learned how to win... and that they can win.

    2019 will be about learning to win important game(s) and getting into the playoff mix.

    And should we gain entry into the post-season, then there the learning starts all over again. If we can host a WC Weekend game... and win it, then we will be ahead of schedule in my book.

  • @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    No good sir I do not have an ego problem, perhaps I miscommunicated, my English is what you call inelegant. 

    Also im not sure or concerned who moderates or has been here and im just trying to explain to people to have a little humility regarding the Browns recent somewhat success. When they go 7-9 and 8-8 the year after you men will understand 

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

    @gunz41 said:

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

  • @gunz41 said:

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    For being born in 2002, your choice of forum handle is ... not something I would expect from a high school junior.

  • @gunz41 said:

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself. 

    If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".  

    To quote Mark Twain...  “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.” 

  • @gunz41 said:

    Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.

    You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.

    You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation. 

    You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.

    As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    Which means I have coached kids way older than you. 

    Again, put you knowledge down then.

    Some of the people on here are very good friends. As for me, never met a single one of them. And you must just troll and not read, because I have said many times that people should curb their enthusiasm.

    So since you think you know so much, go ahead and defend your position that Ward is around average, and the secondary is below average but think Justin Gilbert should start

  • @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well. 

    I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life 

    As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself. 

    If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".  

    To quote Mark Twain...  “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.” 

    @hoorta said:

    As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself. 

    If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".  

    To quote Mark Twain...  “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.” 

    I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??

  • @hoorta said:

    As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself. 

    If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".  

    To quote Mark Twain...  “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.” 

    I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??

    If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...

  • it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??

    If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...

    @tour2ma said:

    If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...

    Au contraire. LOL!?

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight.

  • At worst 10-6,  best 12-4.   The Stars have aligned my friends.   Its our year to win the Division and see what happens from there.

  • @tour2ma said:

    If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...

    Au contraire. LOL!?

    @rob_chudzinksi2000 said:

    But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Au contraire. LOL!?

    Thus my use of "most of"... 😉

    Could be but the first crack in the dam tho...

  • I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is

  • it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him. 

    take it from the Mod POV- it's not Ghoolie. When you sign on with a .edu email, I tend to believe he is who he says he is. 

    @gunz41 said:

    Which means I have coached kids way older than you. 

    Again, put you knowledge down then.

    Some of the people on here are very good friends. As for me, never met a single one of them. And you must just troll and not read, because I have said many times that people should curb their enthusiasm.

    So since you think you know so much, go ahead and defend your position that Ward is around average, and the secondary is below average but think Justin Gilbert should start

    Egg-axtly Gunz. I've never coached or played the game, but I can say (assuming I had kids or grandkids) who would be older than he is. Saw Jim Brown play live and in person. Ditto was there for Red Right 88, and Bernie's double OT win against the Jets.  Doubt he's ever seen those games in their entirety.  And I'm not totally senile yet. Used to be able to run down the numerical roster every year from memory- can't do that anymore. 

    In all humility- I've had Browns Season Tickets longer than he's been alive. Just crunching numbers on a computer doesn't make you a football guru. Tour and a few other guys in their modesty aren't going to put him up to a game of wits analyzing 2019 QB prospect throwing mechanics either.   

  • I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is

    @the-gipper said:

    I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is

    Entirely possible Gip- unless he's going the Baking up Turnovers hack trolling route.... Let's see...  If you're 17, that means born in 2002. Chud was the coach in 2013- when he was 11.  I suppose it's possible. 

    He's just had his mind warped by years of losing in his lifetime, and expects more of the same.