Minimum expectations for the upcoming season,?
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I expect the team is going to struggle with occasional flashes of greatness. Takes us 6 games to get it sorted out and we finish strong and end up 10 and 6...we beat the teams we should and struggle against better teams.
I expect the team is going to struggle with occasional flashes of greatness. Takes us 6 games to get it sorted out and we finish strong and end up 10 and 6...we beat the teams we should and struggle against better teams.
Unless you have a juggernaut- that's the way it works. Beat the teams you're supposed to beat, and split with the playoff teams...
If our resident Steeler troll is lurking- that's what kept Pittsburg out of the playoffs. Losing to teams they were supposed to beat.
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With the last 20 years of crap play. Listing to player interviewers,. I have high hopes. As long as all egos are in check. We have the division and playoffs. Dare I say Superbowl.
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With the last 20 years of crap play. Listing to player interviewers,. I have high hopes. As long as all egos are in check. We have the division and playoffs. Dare I say Superbowl.
Dare I say Superbowl.
im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast. But we have to be in the playoffs this year so that our guys "get it". If we're in the playoffs this year "im good" with whatever happens. Cause i KNOW the following year the road to the SB goes through Cleveland. Bank it.
i will not hold this team, with a first time coach and a plethora of pieces that need to be fed...to any lofty playoff demands. But business needs to be handled in the division, PERIOD. Theres no excuse for not winningbthe division.
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Dare I say Superbowl.
im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast. But we have to be in the playoffs this year so that our guys "get it". If we're in the playoffs this year "im good" with whatever happens. Cause i KNOW the following year the road to the SB goes through Cleveland. Bank it.
i will not hold this team, with a first time coach and a plethora of pieces that need to be fed...to any lofty playoff demands. But business needs to be handled in the division, PERIOD. Theres no excuse for not winningbthe division.
im not with u there. Plsyoffs are a different beast.
Agree...Team got a taste of winning in 2018.They learned how to win... and that they can win.
2019 will be about learning to win important game(s) and getting into the playoff mix.
And should we gain entry into the post-season, then there the learning starts all over again. If we can host a WC Weekend game... and win it, then we will be ahead of schedule in my book.
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No good sir I do not have an ego problem, perhaps I miscommunicated, my English is what you call inelegant.
Also im not sure or concerned who moderates or has been here and im just trying to explain to people to have a little humility regarding the Browns recent somewhat success. When they go 7-9 and 8-8 the year after you men will understand
Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
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Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
For being born in 2002, your choice of forum handle is ... not something I would expect from a high school junior.
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Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself.
If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".
To quote Mark Twain... “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.”
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Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
Which means I have coached kids way older than you.
Again, put you knowledge down then.
Some of the people on here are very good friends. As for me, never met a single one of them. And you must just troll and not read, because I have said many times that people should curb their enthusiasm.
So since you think you know so much, go ahead and defend your position that Ward is around average, and the secondary is below average but think Justin Gilbert should start
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But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself.
If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".
To quote Mark Twain... “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.”
As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself.
If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".
To quote Mark Twain... “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.”
I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??
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As far as the bold goes- you just think you do. There's plenty of guys on this forum who have followed the Browns since the late 50s. Ran Browns Backers clubs. If you think your football knowledge matches up with theirs- you're full- of yourself.
If your age is what you say it is- there's guys here who have coached HS football players your age. Extremely annoying for you to have the attitude "I know more than the coach does".
To quote Mark Twain... “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in 7 years.”
I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??
I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??
If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...
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it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him.
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I can't believe you guys have not figured this out yet. Ghoolie has come back as a 17 y.o. know it all and he still knows nothing about football other than his usual baiting. Welcome back Tom!??
If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...
If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...
Au contraire. LOL!?
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight.
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If true, then it's a new, improved version minus (most of) the self-aggrandizing bullshit...
Au contraire. LOL!?
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight.
Au contraire. LOL!?
Thus my use of "most of"...

Could be but the first crack in the dam tho...
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I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is
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it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him.
it is ghoolie isnt it? fuck, just let him back and if a post of his gets downvoted too many times he gets a week off. Let us determine when we need a break from him.
take it from the Mod POV- it's not Ghoolie. When you sign on with a .edu email, I tend to believe he is who he says he is.
Which means I have coached kids way older than you.
Again, put you knowledge down then.
Some of the people on here are very good friends. As for me, never met a single one of them. And you must just troll and not read, because I have said many times that people should curb their enthusiasm.
So since you think you know so much, go ahead and defend your position that Ward is around average, and the secondary is below average but think Justin Gilbert should start
Egg-axtly Gunz. I've never coached or played the game, but I can say (assuming I had kids or grandkids) who would be older than he is. Saw Jim Brown play live and in person. Ditto was there for Red Right 88, and Bernie's double OT win against the Jets. Doubt he's ever seen those games in their entirety. And I'm not totally senile yet. Used to be able to run down the numerical roster every year from memory- can't do that anymore.
In all humility- I've had Browns Season Tickets longer than he's been alive. Just crunching numbers on a computer doesn't make you a football guru. Tour and a few other guys in their modesty aren't going to put him up to a game of wits analyzing 2019 QB prospect throwing mechanics either.
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I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is
I don’t believe for one moment that this guy is 17 years old. A 17-year-old would even know who the hell rob chudzinski is
Entirely possible Gip- unless he's going the Baking up Turnovers hack trolling route.... Let's see... If you're 17, that means born in 2002. Chud was the coach in 2013- when he was 11. I suppose it's possible.
He's just had his mind warped by years of losing in his lifetime, and expects more of the same.
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Listen up Mr. Troll, there is a difference in curbing enthusiasm and thinking some of the stuff is overhyped and just saying things to make people mad.
You obviously do have an ego problem, as the 1st thing you said once moderator was said is that you should be one, obviously saying you can do a better job.
You also saying you "know" where anyone will finish isnt fact. That is speculation.
You have also recently said that Justin Gilbert should be starting in NFL or something like that, yet talking bad about others.
As Hoorta was saying, there are certainly people here who know A LOT. I'm one of them, not specifically about the Browns, about the Xs and Os of the game. So anytime you want to have that kind of talk, and try and show how much you really know (or probably dont know), I am all ears. But don't come around acting like you know more than somebody else because you will get set straight REALLY fast
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
As a Moderator, let me give you a little bit of advice. I learned way back in 1995- (like 7 years before you were born) when the Internet was just taking off, if you have to resort to name calling- you've already lost the argument. The bold is backed up by NOTHING, just to give you a reality check. Our departed real troll Ghoolie would rip your sorry ass to pieces, and hand it back to you. You have a lot to learn about presenting coherent arguments that can't be challenged.
FWIW JUNIOR- the Hoorta took perverse pleasure ripping Baltomoron trolls to pieces back in the dark years, it's how the screen name stuck. I doubt you'd know that name is part of a Star Trek creature back in the 60s- long before you were born. I just as easily could do the same to you. So by all means- keep on spewing. For a week or so, you've been talking sense. It's why you haven't been kicked off yet.
Go ahead- post your vast knowledge of Xs and Os against Gunz, I'm ready for a big hoot.
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But you’re missing the whole point. First off I’m a 17 year old that can tell is on par with most of you as far as knowledge and x and o’s and all around insight. I said it was bull poop I’m not a moderator as a sheer joke. However you’re ego reared itself as way more profound a long time ago. Oh well.
I did come on here aggressive about how I disagree with most that the browns will have a winning record. But I didn’t have a feel yet that this board is just shared by ppl who know each other for the most part. Still you’re a piece of work but best of luck in life
As a Moderator, let me give you a little bit of advice. I learned way back in 1995- (like 7 years before you were born) when the Internet was just taking off, if you have to resort to name calling- you've already lost the argument. The bold is backed up by NOTHING, just to give you a reality check. Our departed real troll Ghoolie would rip your sorry ass to pieces, and hand it back to you. You have a lot to learn about presenting coherent arguments that can't be challenged.
FWIW JUNIOR- the Hoorta took perverse pleasure ripping Baltomoron trolls to pieces back in the dark years, it's how the screen name stuck. I doubt you'd know that name is part of a Star Trek creature back in the 60s- long before you were born. I just as easily could do the same to you. So by all means- keep on spewing. For a week or so, you've been talking sense. It's why you haven't been kicked off yet.
Go ahead- post your vast knowledge of Xs and Os against Gunz, I'm ready for a big hoot.
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