Our Trading GM ....The Dorse
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Flugs: I agree, DQJ was always a guy I pointed to who had a lot of tackles....5 yards too late. Though I am not sure that I recall seeing him improve later in his career. Maybe he did and I did not notice.
Flugs: I agree, DQJ was always a guy I pointed to who had a lot of tackles....5 yards too late. Though I am not sure that I recall seeing him improve later in his career. Maybe he did and I did not notice.
Thanks for sharing that Gips. The area I though he improved most at was where he was making the majority of his tackles (after we went to the 4-3). Most of these were now at the point of attack/LOS rather than 10-20 yards downfield from pursuit angles (which wasn't always his fault). His overall tackle volume decreased which can happen to a guy if his defense gets off the field quicker. I don't know if you remember Shep (or if he left before you arrived); but he used to judge LBers by how many tackles they made. If an opponent throws to LB's hook zone 20 times and he makes the tackle every single time - he has to be an All Pro in his book rather than being seen as the opponent's opportunity to exploit in the game plan. Then I'd ask - have you ever noticed a guy like Teddy Bruschi who prolly has half the foot speed Jackson has but come playoff time against the better competition - Bruschi seemed to a knack for intercepting a pass at the right time or batting it down rather than making the tackle after arriving late. When we got to the 4-3. I thought Jackson also improved at getting back to the depth of his zone quicker and defending passes in lieu of always having to make the tackle from getting there a second too late. In my previous post - I talked about what led to a better instinct and quicker reaction from D'Qwell.
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Good stuff Flug?..got a rumoriest down in Mia., to keep your eyes on....Edit-- If your a draft pick conservative, tight cap minded Browns fan? This may not be for you?
https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/11/is-cleveland-a-possible-trade-back-partner-for-miami/
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Good stuff Flug?..got a rumoriest down in Mia., to keep your eyes on....Edit-- If your a draft pick conservative, tight cap minded Browns fan? This may not be for you?
https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/11/is-cleveland-a-possible-trade-back-partner-for-miami/
Good stuff Flug?..got a rumoriest down in Mia., to keep your eyes on....Edit-- If your a draft pick conservative, tight cap minded Browns fan? This may not be for you?
https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/11/is-cleveland-a-possible-trade-back-partner-for-miami/
I don't see a trade that high up, too expensive. I can see a trade up to one of Oakland's picks - they have three - to a team that picks towards the bottom of the first, top of the second....
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Good stuff Flug?..got a rumoriest down in Mia., to keep your eyes on....Edit-- If your a draft pick conservative, tight cap minded Browns fan? This may not be for you?
https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/11/is-cleveland-a-possible-trade-back-partner-for-miami/
I don't see a trade that high up, too expensive. I can see a trade up to one of Oakland's picks - they have three - to a team that picks towards the bottom of the first, top of the second....
I don't see a trade that high up, too expensive. A) I can see a trade up to one of Oakland's picks - they have three - to a team that picks towards the bottom of the first, B)top of the second....
A) trading up just to Rams #30 should cost #49 & #80,to the exact penny. to Oak another 80 points= our 4th #119 & 5th #170..B) getting to top of 2nd round with Zona taking #49 would cost pick #80 with Zona returning their top 6th round pick...Overall your losing next years 1st to Mia.& same 2nd & 3rd, with gaining the rights to the possible crop of...OT=Jonah Williams/Dillard..DT=Oliver or Simmons/LB-Devin Bush or White/CB=Greedy Williams or Byron Murphy/and a shoe-in TE in Hockenson..or stand as is? bottom line imo,Does Dorsey trust his magic words of "at pick #17 the 1st round talent value, comes into questions"..11 days away, a puzzle piece will either fit or maybe it won't..
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Dorsey's pre draft presser is on the books for Thursday the 18th..Grossi is preparing for a big bag of rocks.. https://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/6452/fact-checking-john-dorseys-final-pre-draft-comments-a-year-ago have not seen time of presser..
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Dorsey's pre draft presser is on the books for Thursday the 18th..Grossi is preparing for a big bag of rocks.. https://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/6452/fact-checking-john-dorseys-final-pre-draft-comments-a-year-ago have not seen time of presser..
Dorsey's pre draft presser is on the books for Thursday the 18th..Grossi is preparing for a big bag of rocks.. https://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/6452/fact-checking-john-dorseys-final-pre-draft-comments-a-year-ago have not seen time of presser..
Grossi did not know then... and he does not know now...
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I think the one thing I had wrong this offseason is Linebacker. I think they REALLY value Genard Avery, and I think Kirkseys leadership and ability registers higher than I thought.
I expected a bigger turnover/addition.
Z
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I think the one thing I had wrong this offseason is Linebacker. I think they REALLY value Genard Avery, and I think Kirkseys leadership and ability registers higher than I thought.
I expected a bigger turnover/addition.
Z
Zombo said:
I think the one thing I had wrong this offseason is Linebacker. I think they REALLY value Genard Avery, and I think Kirkseys leadership and ability registers higher than I thought.
I expected a bigger turnover/addition.
Z
If the DL does a far better job of keeping the OL off of the LB's you may end up being right. That said, I'd give up a lot to get Devin White right there in the middle. He's going to be a great one.
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I think the one thing I had wrong this offseason is Linebacker. I think they REALLY value Genard Avery, and I think Kirkseys leadership and ability registers higher than I thought.
I expected a bigger turnover/addition.
Z
Zombo said:
I think the one thing I had wrong this offseason is Linebacker. I think they REALLY value Genard Avery, and I think Kirkseys leadership and ability registers higher than I thought.
I expected a bigger turnover/addition.
Z
I think your right..If were talking Chad Thomas/Smith/Avery getting more reps? Vernon has no issue lining up at linebacker either..Any of them.Giants did.The LB Dorse picked up from TB, ain't no joker either. Let's Move to Simmons..Only 2 teams with Pro Day & Private meeting equals Browns & Colts. Private only-TB(PICKS-#5 & 2.7)/KC(29)/Colts(26 &2.2)/Mia.(13 & 2.16)/Oak.(4-24-27 & 2.3)/Sea.(21)/Texans(23)/Vikings (18)..2 additional teams just showed at Pro Day/ Eagles(25) & Jags (7 & 2.6)..Combined teams keeping picks would have to pass on Simmons 17 times that had visits..before the Browns pick at #49..I just don't see that happening with Simmons on field talents..and Simmons may not even be the name on the card with Dorsey
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Dorsey has put together a team that has depth. Year in, year out, half decent starter gets hurt, no quality backup. Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
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Dorsey has put together a team that has depth. Year in, year out, half decent starter gets hurt, no quality backup. Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
Dorsey has put together a team that has depth. Year in, year out, half decent starter gets hurt, no quality backup. Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
Hopefully we don't have to find that out for certain this year. I prefer not to test your theory.??
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Dorsey has put together a team that has depth. Year in, year out, half decent starter gets hurt, no quality backup. Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
Hopefully we don't have to find that out for certain this year. I prefer not to test your theory.??
Hopefully we don't have to find that out for certain this year. I prefer not to test your theory.??
Every year every team deals with injuries. If you have depth of talent, you’re in pretty good shape. Our team has been the model for otherwise
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Hopefully we don't have to find that out for certain this year. I prefer not to test your theory.??
Every year every team deals with injuries. If you have depth of talent, you’re in pretty good shape. Our team has been the model for otherwise
Every year every team deals with injuries. If you have depth of talent, you’re in pretty good shape. Our team has been the model for otherwise
True but every year a team that should have gone deep in the playoffs does not because of too many key injuries and a team or two with none gets there despite the odds going in. I want us to be the latter.
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Every year every team deals with injuries. If you have depth of talent, you’re in pretty good shape. Our team has been the model for otherwise
True but every year a team that should have gone deep in the playoffs does not because of too many key injuries and a team or two with none gets there despite the odds going in. I want us to be the latter.
True but every year a team that should have gone deep in the playoffs does not because of too many key injuries and a team or two with none gets there despite the odds going in. I want us to be the latter.
True but? Lol
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Dorsey has put together a team that has depth. Year in, year out, half decent starter gets hurt, no quality backup. Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
We do?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Every year every team deals with injuries. If you have depth of talent, you’re in pretty good shape. Our team has been the model for otherwise
True but every year a team that should have gone deep in the playoffs does not because of too many key injuries and a team or two with none gets there despite the odds going in. I want us to be the latter.
True but every year a team that should have gone deep in the playoffs does not because of too many key injuries and a team or two with none gets there despite the odds going in. I want us to be the latter.
I've pointed out before, not necessarily making the playoffs, but costing you a bunch of wins. Living in Bengal territory- I'll posit some of their poor record was due to the rash of injuries they had. Eifert was out nearly the entire year, Dalton and AJ Green essentially missed 1\2 the season. How would the Browns do if the same happened to Baker, Landry, and Njoku?
Now some of the following stats are skewed with non-contributors on both teams sitting out the entire season so take it FWIW.
Looking at pro football reference the Bengals had an astounding 250+ player\games missed either due to "out" or "IR". https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin/2018_injuries.htm
By comparison the Browns were around 200 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2018_injuries.htm
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Now we have second teamers that could be starters on other teams.
We do?
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Yes, that’s what I wrote.
I thought maybe you had some examples you might like to share...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yes, that’s what I wrote.
I thought maybe you had some examples you might like to share...
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