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Duke Johnson Requests Trade

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  • @flugel said:

    The problem we encounter with Duke in terms of his trade-exchange value is that most teams know that 3rd round RBs like Hunt and Kamara (both earned Offensive Rookie of the Year honors in their respective conferences) and other productive RBa are often found even later enough to dilute such a need to trade for him.

    Plus teams know that Duke is no more than an insurance policy for us once Hunt takes the field. That he becomes superfluous.

    This can be more than offset by a team's... or teams'... need due to injury, but that offset is not in play in a draft day trade.

    @tour2ma said:

    Plus teams know that Duke is no more than an insurance policy for us once Hunt takes the field. That he becomes superfluous.

    This can be more than offset by a team's... or teams'... need due to injury, but that offset is not in play in a draft day trade.

    Exactly!    Look no further than how late in the year the Rams decided to add the unemployed veteran C.J. Anderson due to an injury to Gurley.  They didn't even have to trade anything to steal him away from the all you can eat buffets.  He became quite the pleasant considering it all.

  • Market for running backs is not real high for desperate wants via trades.  Why trade for one when you can draft one in the third round or up.  Then you have free agents.  Duke does not warrant another team to trade for him.

  • Market for running backs is not real high for desperate wants via trades.  Why trade for one when you can draft one in the third round or up.  Then you have free agents.  Duke does not warrant another team to trade for him.

    @lbc-mike said:

    Duke does not warrant another team to trade for him.

    Certainly not in and of himself.  He would be an 'add on' to sweeten a deal.  (sadly...as he has more value to us in our current situation than to most other teams)

  • Does anyone remember CB Jamar Taylor? At trade, similar in age, Taylor the higher profile position than RB imo.The Browns got J.Taylor in a draft day trade from Mia.. The Browns/Mia. flipped 7th rd. picks, Browns #250.Mia.up to #223..In May of 2018, Dorsey traded J.Taylor to the Cardinals for a 2020 6th rounder..Sorry but we Can't asked for the sky on a 4th round pick asking for a trade..Put Duke in this draft class with a favorable contract till 2022 & we paid his 7.7M guarantees. We hold the cards.. At last count, 12 teams have RB as a draft need. I would add, Dorsey is familiar with 2,naming GB & KC.We have 3 5th.a 6th & 7th flippable.Hillard will have a camp battle on a player to be named later. I could see Dorsey waving Duke out there in a move up attempt in 1st,2nd or 3rd..Once the board has a few true names added to it. We may only see the flipping of picks for Duke..Can't win them all on a player wanting out> Gotta trust JD "that we won't just give the player away" ? 

  • Does anyone remember CB Jamar Taylor? At trade, similar in age, Taylor the higher profile position than RB imo.The Browns got J.Taylor in a draft day trade from Mia.. The Browns/Mia. flipped 7th rd. picks, Browns #250.Mia.up to #223..In May of 2018, Dorsey traded J.Taylor to the Cardinals for a 2020 6th rounder..Sorry but we Can't asked for the sky on a 4th round pick asking for a trade..Put Duke in this draft class with a favorable contract till 2022 & we paid his 7.7M guarantees. We hold the cards.. At last count, 12 teams have RB as a draft need. I would add, Dorsey is familiar with 2,naming GB & KC.We have 3 5th.a 6th & 7th flippable.Hillard will have a camp battle on a player to be named later. I could see Dorsey waving Duke out there in a move up attempt in 1st,2nd or 3rd..Once the board has a few true names added to it. We may only see the flipping of picks for Duke..Can't win them all on a player wanting out> Gotta trust JD "that we won't just give the player away" ? 

    @gumby73 said:

    Sorry but we Can't asked for the sky on a 4th round pick asking for a trade.

    Because he is asking for a trade, we are less in the driver's seat.  Teams know that we 'could' have a disgruntled player on our hands.  It's common knowledge that Kitchens wasn't overly pleased that Duke didn't show for the 'voluntary' team get-together.  By NOT showing up, Duke didn't help his trade value.  He would've looked more like a 'team guy'.....that just doesn't fit OUR team anymore.  Instead, he looks more like someone who's team may just have to ditch.

    @gumby73 said:

    we paid his 7.7M guarantees. We hold the cards

    ....but maybe nobody antis up to see 'em.....thinking that you just may have to throw them in the kitty.  

    Having said all of this, it's hard for me to diss a guy for wanting to play (somewhere).

  • I heard on NFL radio this morning that the host doubts that Dorsey will trade up at all from current #2 position. So use of DJ in a trade may be a moot point. He thought that Dorsey will wait to see a quality player drop to him right there.

  • I heard on NFL radio this morning that the host doubts that Dorsey will trade up at all from current #2 position. So use of DJ in a trade may be a moot point. He thought that Dorsey will wait to see a quality player drop to him right there.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I heard on NFL radio this morning that the host doubts that Dorsey will trade up at all from current #2 position. So use of DJ in a trade may be a moot point. He thought that Dorsey will wait to see a quality player drop to him right there.

    And you bought that smokescreen?

  • I’m sure Duke’s value would go up in the regular season when rosters are more finalized. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I heard on NFL radio this morning that the host doubts that Dorsey will trade up at all from current #2 position. So use of DJ in a trade may be a moot point. He thought that Dorsey will wait to see a quality player drop to him right there.

    And you bought that smokescreen?

    @the-gipper said:

    And you bought that smokescreen?

    Actually he was trying to debunk smokescreens and this was one he thought had no basis (to trade up using Duke). He made the point you could find good RBs now in the 3rd/4th round far cheaper for their first 5 years.

  • The ideal place for Duke would a contending team with a wide open offense that has a top RB that is going to miss half the season

    He'd probably be real valuable to that team.

    Zombo

  • The ideal place for Duke would a contending team with a wide open offense that has a top RB that is going to miss half the season

    He'd probably be real valuable to that team.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    The ideal place for Duke would a contending team with a wide open offense that has a top RB that is going to miss half the season

    He'd probably be real valuable to that team.

    Zombo

    I wonder who the candidates are?  Jacksonville?  

    Or we could trade him to the Cleveland Browns.  What kind of draft pick do you think we could get?

  • The ideal place for Duke would a contending team with a wide open offense that has a top RB that is going to miss half the season

    He'd probably be real valuable to that team.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    The ideal place for Duke would a contending team with a wide open offense that has a top RB that is going to miss half the season

    He'd probably be real valuable to that team.

    Zombo

    I see what you did there... Well played.