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***Official 2019 NFL Draft Thread***

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  • Smartest move:  Pitt moving up for Devin Bush. Fills their greatest need with one of the top 2 clearly separated from the rest of the ILBs.

    Biggest reach: Tie NYG for the QB Jones from Duke and Seattle for L.J. Collier DE  TCU

    @texasag1969 said:

    Smartest move:  Pitt moving up for Devin Bush. Fills their greatest need with one of the top 2 clearly separated from the rest of the ILBs.

    Biggest reach: Tie NYG for the QB Jones from Duke and Seattle for L.J. Collier DE  TCU

    Completely agree on Bush, but I don't see a tie in reach... Jones at #6 overall is unfathomable.

  • Found the browns media tents..Lots of talk of whom JD's 3 targets might have been to move-up mid 1st round? the Hot names are Simmons, Dillard, Fant, a maybe on Tillery...phone dying, your in luck, I'll be off for a while 😎 

    @gumby73 said:

    Found the browns media tents..Lots of talk of whom JD's 3 targets might have been to move-up mid 1st round? the Hot names are Simmons, Dillard, Fant, a maybe on Tillery...phone dying, your in luck, I'll be off for a while 😎 

    So You're down there too?  My nephew Ben made it to the Browns instagram page, he's on the right.  🙂   

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  • and my point was your opinion is worthless because you cant even get the simplest shit correct.

    @choco said:

    and my point was your opinion is worthless because you cant even get the simplest shit correct.

    Is that right? It’s okay that you have a hard on for me because I call you on your bullshit but you don’t need to be a dipshit. Either way your “linebackers aren’t important” is enough of a brain dead comment you’ve filled your quota for the rest of the month.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Smartest move:  Pitt moving up for Devin Bush. Fills their greatest need with one of the top 2 clearly separated from the rest of the ILBs.

    Biggest reach: Tie NYG for the QB Jones from Duke and Seattle for L.J. Collier DE  TCU

    Completely agree on Bush, but I don't see a tie in reach... Jones at #6 overall is unfathomable.

    @tour2ma said:

    Completely agree on Bush, but I don't see a tie in reach... Jones at #6 overall is unfathomable.

    He’s linked to the mannings through a QB coach and I think for whatever reason that went a long way. I did read from several sources he had the best pro day of all the qbs so maybe there is some legitimacy to his selection that high.

  • @choco said:

    and my point was your opinion is worthless because you cant even get the simplest shit correct.

    And for example if I were to agree that having "impact", 3 down linebackers is incredibly important (ask any safety especially)....  Then what ?   

    @tiamat63 said:

    And for example if I were to agree that having "impact", 3 down linebackers is incredibly important (ask any safety especially)....  Then what ?   

    The vast majority of the football watching masses agrees with you. Choco breathes through his mouth full time.

  • Just watched a piece on Dalton Risner on NFL Network how he has set up a foundation to help children and old people then I read about Tyreek Hill and what he done ....2 ends of the character spectrum .....

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    Strongly disagree. I love the LBers in this draft. If you are giving up future picks it better be for an impact player and LBers just aren't that valuable.

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    @vagitron said:

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    Wow...for once I agree with  Mr. Female genitalia.   Linebackers ARE extremely importan...and can be impact players. 

    But we will reserve judgment on whether or not Bush becomes one of those.

  • @choco said:

    and my point was your opinion is worthless because you cant even get the simplest shit correct.

    Is that right? It’s okay that you have a hard on for me because I call you on your bullshit but you don’t need to be a dipshit. Either way your “linebackers aren’t important” is enough of a brain dead comment you’ve filled your quota for the rest of the month.

    @vagitron said:

    Is that right? It’s okay that you have a hard on for me because I call you on your bullshit but you don’t need to be a dipshit. Either way your “linebackers aren’t important” is enough of a brain dead comment you’ve filled your quota for the rest of the month.

    I might be a bit more aware of which idioms you may use.   In my understanding: "having a hard on" for someone means you would lust after that person.  You know:  we all may have a hard on for Kaley Cuocco....or Sandra Hubby 😉

    Having a hard on with someone you may have a disagreement with just does not conjure up the right image.

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  • @gumby73 said:

    Found the browns media tents..Lots of talk of whom JD's 3 targets might have been to move-up mid 1st round? the Hot names are Simmons, Dillard, Fant, a maybe on Tillery...phone dying, your in luck, I'll be off for a while 😎 

    So You're down there too?  My nephew Ben made it to the Browns instagram page, he's on the right.  🙂   

    D5BsZ-YW0AAgOGW.jpg

    @hoorta said:

    So You're down there too?  My nephew Ben made it to the Browns instagram page, he's on the right.  🙂   

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    ?Your Nephew, will tell you,, "you should have made the trip"..Saw this pic yesterday..but wife & i, just got in this morning..this House is full of brownies ? Can't wait to get on the Clock.?.You will hear from Dawg Nation!! Woof W?f!!

  • Just watched a piece on Dalton Risner on NFL Network how he has set up a foundation to help children and old people then I read about Tyreek Hill and what he done ....2 ends of the character spectrum .....

    @darren15 said:

    Just watched a piece on Dalton Risner on NFL Network how he has set up a foundation to help children and old people then I read about Tyreek Hill and what he done ....2 ends of the character spectrum .....

    You'd love Houston's DT Oliver. Raised by a wrangler (horses) and he himself is considered a horse whisperer. Must have gotten all those muscles tossing hay as a little biddy baby. I had a good friend in Wyoming who had the strongest upper body of anyone I ever knew. He was raised on a 12,000 acre cattle ranch and could flip a calf and quick tie the feet for branding like anyone else would straighten pillows on a bed. Zero effort involved.

  • @louisville-slugger said:

    Strongly disagree. I love the LBers in this draft. If you are giving up future picks it better be for an impact player and LBers just aren't that valuable.

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    @vagitron said:

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense

  • @vagitron said:

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense

    @louisville-slugger said:

    What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense

    You are heinously wrong.

  • @vagitron said:

    What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league. 

    What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense

    @louisville-slugger said:

    What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense

    You steal my edibles MF?   

  • Daniel Jeremiah says that the best pick of the draft had to be Pitt moving up to take Devin Bush who was 1A & 1B with Devin White as top LB in the draft. So there is that opinion from the guy I most respect when it comes to the draft (and for agreeing with me LOL!).?

  • The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. 

    These are the top LBers from those teams.

    Mosely- good/elite

    Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)

    Roquan Smith- above average

    Demario Davis- average 

    Cory Littleton- Special teamer

    You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers 

  • DK Metcalf no matter what.

  • A bunch of my BB picks are going tonight. I got a few steals in later rounds that will go before the 3rd is done.

  • Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us

  • The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. 

    These are the top LBers from those teams.

    Mosely- good/elite

    Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)

    Roquan Smith- above average

    Demario Davis- average 

    Cory Littleton- Special teamer

    You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers 

    @louisville-slugger said:

    The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams. 

    These are the top LBers from those teams.

    Mosely- good/elite

    Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)

    Roquan Smith- above average

    Demario Davis- average 

    Cory Littleton- Special teamer

    You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers 

    Where TF are you getting your stats?  Scoring defense? 

    YPG 

    Net Yards Per Game Leaders

    RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
    1 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9
    2 Buffalo 4706 294.1 2867 179.2 1839 114.9 374 23.4
    3 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7
    4 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3
    5 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8
    6 Pittsburgh 5235 327.2 3697 231.1 1538 96.1 360 22.5
    7 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3
    8 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9
    9 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6
    10 Detroit 5360 335.0 3599 224.9 1761 110.1 360 22.5

    edit:  PPG makes your argument look even more silly with the top 10.   All of those teams have some quality LB's.

  • Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league.