***Official 2019 NFL Draft Thread***
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Just watched a piece on Dalton Risner on NFL Network how he has set up a foundation to help children and old people then I read about Tyreek Hill and what he done ....2 ends of the character spectrum .....
Just watched a piece on Dalton Risner on NFL Network how he has set up a foundation to help children and old people then I read about Tyreek Hill and what he done ....2 ends of the character spectrum .....
You'd love Houston's DT Oliver. Raised by a wrangler (horses) and he himself is considered a horse whisperer. Must have gotten all those muscles tossing hay as a little biddy baby. I had a good friend in Wyoming who had the strongest upper body of anyone I ever knew. He was raised on a 12,000 acre cattle ranch and could flip a calf and quick tie the feet for branding like anyone else would straighten pillows on a bed. Zero effort involved.
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Strongly disagree. I love the LBers in this draft. If you are giving up future picks it better be for an impact player and LBers just aren't that valuable.
What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league.
What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league.
What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense
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What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league.
What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense
What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense
You are heinously wrong.
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What? Based on what exactly? Linebackers are extremely important. The entire steeler defense suffered when shazier got hurt and Bush is 100% an impact player. I could put together a 20+ player list in 2 minutes of impact players just at the linebacker position currently on n the league.
What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense
What I was saying is that off ball LBers are like interior offensive lineman. As long as they play their role you dont need a superstar. The difference between Kuechly and Shobert are obvious, yet I dont see Kuechly making the defense that much better. Compare that to Aaron Donald vs Larry Ogunjobi and the impact that has on a defense
You steal my edibles MF?
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Daniel Jeremiah says that the best pick of the draft had to be Pitt moving up to take Devin Bush who was 1A & 1B with Devin White as top LB in the draft. So there is that opinion from the guy I most respect when it comes to the draft (and for agreeing with me LOL!).?
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The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams.
These are the top LBers from those teams.
Mosely- good/elite
Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)
Roquan Smith- above average
Demario Davis- average
Cory Littleton- Special teamer
You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers
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DK Metcalf no matter what.
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A bunch of my BB picks are going tonight. I got a few steals in later rounds that will go before the 3rd is done.
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Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us
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The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams.
These are the top LBers from those teams.
Mosely- good/elite
Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)
Roquan Smith- above average
Demario Davis- average
Cory Littleton- Special teamer
You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers
The top overall defenses last year were Baltimore, New England, Chicago, New Orleans, and The rams.
These are the top LBers from those teams.
Mosely- good/elite
Hightower- good (more of a pass rusher)
Roquan Smith- above average
Demario Davis- average
Cory Littleton- Special teamer
You dont need a great LBer to have a great defense. DLine and secondary far more valuable so like I said get LBers that do their jobs and invest in impact guys to rush the passer and cover receivers
Where TF are you getting your stats? Scoring defense?
YPG
Net Yards Per Game Leaders
RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9 2 Buffalo 4706 294.1 2867 179.2 1839 114.9 374 23.4 3 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7 4 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3 5 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8 6 Pittsburgh 5235 327.2 3697 231.1 1538 96.1 360 22.5 7 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3 8 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9 9 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6 10 Detroit 5360 335.0 3599 224.9 1761 110.1 360 22.5 edit: PPG makes your argument look even more silly with the top 10. All of those teams have some quality LB's.
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Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league.
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Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league.
Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy.
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Surely its time to pull the trigger and trade up for greedy?
Greedy is falling further and further.
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Googled top defenses and NFL.com had them as the top overall. Seattle and Carolina aren't top 10 and they have the 2 best LBers in the league.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy.
I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy.
The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander
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Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us
Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us
No love for greedy williams?
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Well my 2 favorite are off the board. Love, adderley, or Gardener-Johnson better make it to us
No love for greedy williams?
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I'm still waiting for you to make a point that leads to proving that linebackers are somehow of a diminished value...? You could stick Patrick Fucking Willis on the Browns defense mid 2000's. He'll still be a badass, but the defense overall will suck because of the unit around him. One man can't do it all but good linebackers hold together a defense. Just ask Cincy.
The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander
The NFL is passing league so LBers are diminished value there is no debate. You dont need a Patrick Willis anymore. The Bill's had the #2 d according to your list and their best LBer is lorenzo Alexander
RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G 1 Chicago 4795 299.7 3515 219.7 1280 80.0 283 17.7 2 Baltimore 4687 292.9 3360 210.0 1327 82.9 287 17.9 3 Tennessee 5334 333.4 3471 216.9 1863 116.4 303 18.9 4 Jacksonville 4983 311.4 3113 194.6 1870 116.9 316 19.8 Houston 5490 343.1 4167 260.4 1323 82.7 316 19.8 6 Dallas 5268 329.3 3755 234.7 1513 94.6 324 20.3 7 New England 5746 359.1 3943 246.4 1803 112.7 325 20.3 8 LA Chargers 5339 333.7 3646 227.9 1693 105.8 329 20.6 9 Minnesota 4955 309.7 3140 196.3 1815 113.4 341 21.3 10 Indianapolis 5431 339.4 3805 237.8 1626 101.6 344 21.5
PPG... Out of that list you have Roquan, Trevaithan (pretty good), Mosely, Woodyard, Jack, Smith, Jaylon, Vander, Hightower, Barr and Bulter.
That's a pretty solid list of names there.
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I knew the Broncos were gonna find a way to get him (Lock) after they traded down with the idiot Giants.
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Someone's gonna look at us an think they gonna take greedy and jump us... We need to make a move
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