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  • Wonder if he will be a diamond in the rough.  Like Avery.

  • Word is that he is nasty and thats cool...

  • Word is that he is nasty and thats cool...

    @nickers said:

    Word is that he is nasty and thats cool...

    Nasty is a good word.. Get your ? ready !!

         he's got OL prick'ism 🙂 word of the day (prick'ism)..

  • what the Scouts say.. 

  • @nickers said:

    Word is that he is nasty and thats cool...

    Nasty is a good word.. Get your ? ready !!

         he's got OL prick'ism 🙂 word of the day (prick'ism)..

    @gumby73 said:

    Nasty is a good word.. Get your ? ready !!

         he's got OL prick'ism 🙂 word of the day (prick'ism)..

    I’m guessing at his size and at his school he was a man among boys, but watching this you can see the appeal. Looks like a good candidate for misdirection plays, which l tend to think Kitchens is pretty good at drawing up, and you can definitely see the “finisher” compliment he was given in the interview clip. Gonna be fun to watch this guy develop.

    He seems to have the feets to stick at tackle. 

  • It's easy to imagine him at tackle - he showed lateral movement to pull very quickly - very smart, very tough, even

    mean every play, blocking a guy right into the ground, and he can go downfield with the rest of the players on the field...

    a steal, I think. These Browns leave no stone unturned, and they know the qualities they are looking for are the right qualities.

  • I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

  • I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    Think he probably needs to move inside like Bitonio and Corbett?

  • I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    Putting your head down is a mechanism to focus power. I would liken it to a baseball or fastpitch player putting their head down to focus on hitting a pitch, and l’m sure every Olineman does it when needed to fend off a bull rush or other power play. Are you saying he does it too early? And perhaps that mitigates his ability to disengage and reengage on stunts or delayed blitzes?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    Think he probably needs to move inside like Bitonio and Corbett?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Think he probably needs to move inside like Bitonio and Corbett?

    That clip was a very limited sample size designed to make Forbes look as good as possible, but it looked to me like he has the quicks to stay at Tackle. I mean, they basically used him as a pulling Tackle. You don’t really see much of that in the NFL. So l doubt there will be many designed plays where he’s sweeping behind the line to pick up a block on the other side of Center, but it’s a good asset to have. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I don't get the head ducked when trying to land his initial strike...     Appears to be an ok bender at the knees.   Sometimes has his weight too far out in front of him in pass pro sets though.   Raw tools to be coached up are there. 

    Think he probably needs to move inside like Bitonio and Corbett?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Think he probably needs to move inside like Bitonio and Corbett?

    Looks like it, measurements would indicate that as well.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Putting your head down is a mechanism to focus power. I would liken it to a baseball or fastpitch player putting their head down to focus on hitting a pitch, and l’m sure every Olineman does it when needed to fend off a bull rush or other power play. Are you saying he does it too early? And perhaps that mitigates his ability to disengage and reengage on stunts or delayed blitzes?

    I mean he does it as he's landing his strike and it's almost like his head titles forward and eyes drop.   So....  that's not ideal.

  • The norm is we keep 8 lineman on the 53..Kush & Lamm should make 7. The squeeze is on Harrison/Witzmann. and neither guys game tape looks that great imo. Lamm is a good swing tackle pick-up..Buys time to get Forbes coached up.. He'll be the first to tell you, he needs pro coaching and sounds coachable. Loads of more film out there now of Forbes..He does have some of the same habits, from tape to tape to get coached out of..most rooks do..He will get his chance..Sometimes that's all it takes 

  •  I like this guy. The frontrunner for my new favorite player.

  • It's easy to imagine him at tackle - he showed lateral movement to pull very quickly - very smart, very tough, even

    mean every play, blocking a guy right into the ground, and he can go downfield with the rest of the players on the field...

    a steal, I think. These Browns leave no stone unturned, and they know the qualities they are looking for are the right qualities.

    @calfoxwc said:

    It's easy to imagine him at tackle - he showed lateral movement to pull very quickly - very smart, very tough, even

    mean every play, blocking a guy right into the ground, and he can go downfield with the rest of the players on the field...

    a steal, I think. These Browns leave no stone unturned, and they know the qualities they are looking for are the right qualities.

    His 32 5/8" arms will push him inside.  His quickness and agility could move him to center.

  • Well we do have such a thing as Practice Squad. Seems the ideal place to develop a late round OL draft choice without wasting a 53 spot.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    It's easy to imagine him at tackle - he showed lateral movement to pull very quickly - very smart, very tough, even

    mean every play, blocking a guy right into the ground, and he can go downfield with the rest of the players on the field...

    a steal, I think. These Browns leave no stone unturned, and they know the qualities they are looking for are the right qualities.

    His 32 5/8" arms will push him inside.  His quickness and agility could move him to center.

    @ballpeen said:

    His 32 5/8" arms will push him inside.  His quickness and agility could move him to center.

    Tell ya what, having a center with quicks that can pull is a rare gift and let's you get pretty creative up front. 

  • regardless of my imagination, the depth chart at Ourlads shows him backing up Joel Bitonio, which is very cool.

    https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/CLE

  • @ballpeen said:

    His 32 5/8" arms will push him inside.  His quickness and agility could move him to center.

    Tell ya what, having a center with quicks that can pull is a rare gift and let's you get pretty creative up front. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Tell ya what, having a center with quicks that can pull is a rare gift and let's you get pretty creative up front. 

    Which is why NO trade up from 62 to 48 to take C Erik McCoy who was used as an effective pulling center multiple times a game under Jimbo Fisher.

  • @ballpeen said:

    His 32 5/8" arms will push him inside.  His quickness and agility could move him to center.

    Tell ya what, having a center with quicks that can pull is a rare gift and let's you get pretty creative up front. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Tell ya what, having a center with quicks that can pull is a rare gift and let's you get pretty creative up front. 

    I agree.  I wasn't saying that as a put down.  I think we need to look at him there as well as guard..