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Dem state lawmaker records himself harassing pro-life woman outside Planned Parenthood

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    You don't value life, you value false righteousness.  And given your post count on the Browns board...  Doesn't appear you're worth conversation on either side.   Later, skater. 

    Been round lot longer than you as if it matters.

    you doing great at deflecting the actual question concerning whether or not that baby should be put to death?

    I agree its an uncomfortable topic but just laying down your opinion only ends your involvement

    @hammertime said:

    Been round lot longer than you as if it matters.

    Time means little. I've just been noticing lately a solid amount of profiles that have nothing to contribute to the Browns discussion, yet always find time for a similarly contrived thought process on this side.   Lends itself to a few explanations,  the most being...  people love having subjective opinions because they don't suffer the results of looking like an asshole.

    you doing great at deflecting the actual question concerning whether or not that baby should be put to death?

    Not deflecting in the least.   I don't believe anything should* That isn't my business.     I believe the rights of the mother, her parents and the consulting medical professionals are to be preserved.

    Should? I couldn't give a shit less.     But, like a TRUE (notice the caps like some others) Conservative, I look to limit government overreach where ever possible.

    I agree its an uncomfortable topic but just laying down your opinion only ends your involvement

    It's not uncomfortable for me.    And sad if you think so.   What is uncomfortable is a pre-teen being forced to have this talk with her parents, doctors and law enforcement.    You're "Pro life" I take.   So I must ask, where is your stance on the quality of the 11 year olds life during and after, what will be, an incredibly dangerous pregnancy that could threaten her life? Are you cool with the abortion then?  If so, then why not now since, with the evolution of medicine we realize just how risky it is for a child that age to proceed with a pregnancy.   What about post birth? Whom is to care for the infant?  The 7th grader that was raped?  Her parents?   What kind of quality of life are we talking here with physical, mental and emotional trauma that will be inflicted upon all parties now?  Not to mention the financials, which.... honestly we don't even need to get into.   Everyone knows how expensive kids are in this time.      Point blank, there isn't a medical OR psychological professional at the top of their field that would agree with an 11 year old conceiving a rape baby.  Straight up.      

    So, are you "Pro life"...?  Or just talking out of your ass simply because your soul is rigid and since this doesn't effect you, you just HAVE to keep with an illogical and medically incompetent viewpoint?    

    Also, fun thought, since you're Pro Life.  This inherently means you've not the authority to end life at any level since said authority is only to the most high.    BUT, you're cool putting down the rapist "killing"....    So you pick and choose which life you feel you have authority to end/begin.     Illogical and a contradiction, bravo.  Between the two of us, I'm the only one with consistency in this argument.  I believe the pregnancy CAN* be terminated.   I believe the rapist CAN (should) be executed.    That's consistent.    

    edit:  Those questions are rhetorical, don't worry about them champ.  I won't be able to see your half thought out response anyway.

  • So the solution is to kill someone who is inconvenient. Let’s hope your relatives don’t feel the same way when you’re old and inconvenient.

  • So the solution is to kill someone who is inconvenient. Let’s hope your relatives don’t feel the same way when you’re old and inconvenient.

    @chemist said:

    So the solution is to kill someone who is inconvenient. Let’s hope your relatives don’t feel the same way when you’re old and inconvenient.

    Let's be real, this country has a deep history of this sort of thing. I'm just following suite, boo.     

    Another curious profile.  And private too... Shocker. 

  • Tiam tell me this is bullshit? Ohio is not making an 11 yr old keep a rape baby are they?

  • tell me Ohio isn't doing this

  • any of you that chirped up in this thread that the 11 yr old ought to be made to go through with this pregnancy....you are evil rotten humans whose souls are long gone. You've got nothin left to speak of. 

  • any of you that chirped up in this thread that the 11 yr old ought to be made to go through with this pregnancy....you are evil rotten humans whose souls are long gone. You've got nothin left to speak of. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    any of you that chirped up in this thread that the 11 yr old ought to be made to go through with this pregnancy....you are evil rotten humans whose souls are long gone. You've got nothin left to speak of. 

    It's not that easy or simple when another innocent life is involved. Life many times is not fair. Sure it is not fair to a young 11 year old to have to go through a rape pregnancy but the alternative is worse the killing of an innocent human being. Personally I think an 11 year olds life might be in danger by having a baby that young and the life of the mother is a valid reason for an abortion. Let's remember also these type of cases are rare and the biggest majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

    One thing you are right on though if your viewpoint is the only abortions acceptable are for the life of the mother than it would be hypocritical if you felt different if it were your own child.  We have a republican senator who was against gay marriage until his son came out of the closet and then he switched his views. Views like this should not change when it affects one of your own as they should be absolute values.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    any of you that chirped up in this thread that the 11 yr old ought to be made to go through with this pregnancy....you are evil rotten humans whose souls are long gone. You've got nothin left to speak of. 

    It's not that easy or simple when another innocent life is involved. Life many times is not fair. Sure it is not fair to a young 11 year old to have to go through a rape pregnancy but the alternative is worse the killing of an innocent human being. Personally I think an 11 year olds life might be in danger by having a baby that young and the life of the mother is a valid reason for an abortion. Let's remember also these type of cases are rare and the biggest majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

    One thing you are right on though if your viewpoint is the only abortions acceptable are for the life of the mother than it would be hypocritical if you felt different if it were your own child.  We have a republican senator who was against gay marriage until his son came out of the closet and then he switched his views. Views like this should not change when it affects one of your own as they should be absolute values.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    It's not that easy or simple when another innocent life is involved. Life many times is not fair. Sure it is not fair to a young 11 year old to have to go through a rape pregnancy but the alternative is worse the killing of an innocent human being. Personally I think an 11 year olds life might be in danger by having a baby that young and the life of the mother is a valid reason for an abortion. Let's remember also these type of cases are rare and the biggest majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

    One thing you are right on though if your viewpoint is the only abortions acceptable are for the life of the mother than it would be hypocritical if you felt different if it were your own child.  We have a republican senator who was against gay marriage until his son came out of the closet and then he switched his views. Views like this should not change when it affects one of your own as they should be absolute values.

    what if she was 16? or 25? or 45? we're still forcing a woman to do sonething she doesnt want to satisfy ur moral proclivities that not everyone shares. If some woman wants to keep a rape baby thats her choice too....thats why its cslled "pro choice". But in terms of an 11 yr old...this is disgusting. Some of u are such bottom barrel low rent swine its nauseating. You have no god given right to live.....u just spawned here as some kind of demonic jerk off. Ur just demon jizz. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    It's not that easy or simple when another innocent life is involved. Life many times is not fair. Sure it is not fair to a young 11 year old to have to go through a rape pregnancy but the alternative is worse the killing of an innocent human being. Personally I think an 11 year olds life might be in danger by having a baby that young and the life of the mother is a valid reason for an abortion. Let's remember also these type of cases are rare and the biggest majority of abortions are performed for convenience.

    One thing you are right on though if your viewpoint is the only abortions acceptable are for the life of the mother than it would be hypocritical if you felt different if it were your own child.  We have a republican senator who was against gay marriage until his son came out of the closet and then he switched his views. Views like this should not change when it affects one of your own as they should be absolute values.

    what if she was 16? or 25? or 45? we're still forcing a woman to do sonething she doesnt want to satisfy ur moral proclivities that not everyone shares. If some woman wants to keep a rape baby thats her choice too....thats why its cslled "pro choice". But in terms of an 11 yr old...this is disgusting. Some of u are such bottom barrel low rent swine its nauseating. You have no god given right to live.....u just spawned here as some kind of demonic jerk off. Ur just demon jizz. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    what if she was 16? or 25? or 45? we're still forcing a woman to do sonething she doesnt want to satisfy ur moral proclivities that not everyone shares. If some woman wants to keep a rape baby thats her choice too....thats why its cslled "pro choice". But in terms of an 11 yr old...this is disgusting. Some of u are such bottom garrel low rent swine its nauseating. You have no god given right to live.....u just spawned here as some kind of demonic jerk off. Ur just demon jizz. 

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

  • @calfoxwc said:

      That answer is beneath you, Tiam. An 11 yr old girl rape victim would know she was raped far before she became pregnant.

    And preventing the pregnancy would be in order, immediately, not 5-9 months later.

    Kidnap victim*  forgot to add that. 

    And while I rarely use hypothetical - let's suppose a rape victim is kidnapped and held past that deadline the bill has thus unable to seek any medical service...?. 

    What then? 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Kidnap victim*  forgot to add that. 

    And while I rarely use hypothetical - let's suppose a rape victim is kidnapped and held past that deadline the bill has thus unable to seek any medical service...?. 

    What then? 

    have the child adopted. Some lucky couple won't have to spend so many thousands of dollars overseas....

  • @clevfan4life said:

    what if she was 16? or 25? or 45? we're still forcing a woman to do sonething she doesnt want to satisfy ur moral proclivities that not everyone shares. If some woman wants to keep a rape baby thats her choice too....thats why its cslled "pro choice". But in terms of an 11 yr old...this is disgusting. Some of u are such bottom garrel low rent swine its nauseating. You have no god given right to live.....u just spawned here as some kind of demonic jerk off. Ur just demon jizz. 

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

    because my side understands that the issue isnt and never was black and white. The reasons are many why women havevto have abortions and most of them are dead on valid. Women who's husbands divorced them and have to work 60+ hours a week to take care ofvtge kids she has......cant afford to go thtough with the pregnancy evenbto put it up for adoption...or she risks losing her job. Just one ex of when abortions are necessary....i knew a woman in that circumstance.

    but lets hear republicans talk about how maternity laws are so constricting to capitalism. You pieces of shit talk out of two perfectly functional asshokes

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Kidnap victim*  forgot to add that. 

    And while I rarely use hypothetical - let's suppose a rape victim is kidnapped and held past that deadline the bill has thus unable to seek any medical service...?. 

    What then? 

    have the child adopted. Some lucky couple won't have to spend so many thousands of dollars overseas....

    @calfoxwc said:

    have the child adopted. Some lucky couple won't have to spend so many thousands of dollars overseas....

    ur an evil scumbagging shitstain talking about an 11 yr old girl going through birth like its no big deal

  • @clevfan4life said:

    what if she was 16? or 25? or 45? we're still forcing a woman to do sonething she doesnt want to satisfy ur moral proclivities that not everyone shares. If some woman wants to keep a rape baby thats her choice too....thats why its cslled "pro choice". But in terms of an 11 yr old...this is disgusting. Some of u are such bottom garrel low rent swine its nauseating. You have no god given right to live.....u just spawned here as some kind of demonic jerk off. Ur just demon jizz. 

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

    In this case can you really say it's the woman's body it's between her and her doctor since she is only 11 years old.  So now does the parents then have to make the decision and if so do both have to agree or can one parent override the other?

    Who would make the call in this situation and why?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Again these cases are rare and those upstanding moral citizens on your side use cases like this to justify all abortions up to time of delivery.

    In this case can you really say it's the woman's body it's between her and her doctor since she is only 11 years old.  So now does the parents then have to make the decision and if so do both have to agree or can one parent override the other?

    Who would make the call in this situation and why?

    @vambo said:

    In this case can you really say it's the woman's body it's between her and her doctor since she is only 11 years old.  So now does the parents then have to make the decision and if so do both have to agree or can one parent override the other?

    Who would make the call in this situation and why?

    Cases like this are difficult but they are not the norm. The norm is most abortions are done for convenience.

  • @vambo said:

    In this case can you really say it's the woman's body it's between her and her doctor since she is only 11 years old.  So now does the parents then have to make the decision and if so do both have to agree or can one parent override the other?

    Who would make the call in this situation and why?

    Cases like this are difficult but they are not the norm. The norm is most abortions are done for convenience.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Cases like this are difficult but they are not the norm. The norm is most abortions are done for convenience.

    I agree I was more curious on if they let her get one who would decide. 

    "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"   Wrap that rascal ! ?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    have the child adopted. Some lucky couple won't have to spend so many thousands of dollars overseas....

    ur an evil scumbagging shitstain talking about an 11 yr old girl going through birth like its no big deal

    @clevfan4life said:

    ur an evil scumbagging shitstain talking about an 11 yr old girl going through birth like its no big deal

    And you would murder an innocent child for the crimes of his father.

  • They refuse the original question and damn near write chapters while skirting the real question.

    did the baby do anything to deserve to be killed?

    simple.

  • They refuse the original question and damn near write chapters while skirting the real question.

    did the baby do anything to deserve to be killed?

    simple.

    @hammertime said:

    They refuse the original question and damn near write chapters while skirting the real question.

    did the baby do anything to deserve to be killed?

    simple.

    no. But the baby is the product of a crime...and a heinous one at that. Its just tuff....but the fact ur still arguing this in the case of an 11 yr old girl shows what a profound dirt nugget u are at the core of ur being. 

    ☕

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ur an evil scumbagging shitstain talking about an 11 yr old girl going through birth like its no big deal

    And you would murder an innocent child for the crimes of his father.

    @chemist said:

    And you would murder an innocent child for the crimes of his father.

    and u would force a woman, or girl in this case, to go through 9 months of despair with an operating table at the end, because of her fathers crime. Ur scum. This not the "procreation" jesus hsd in mind. This is the pure filth of swine. No more no less.

  • @hammertime said:

    They refuse the original question and damn near write chapters while skirting the real question.

    did the baby do anything to deserve to be killed?

    simple.

    no. But the baby is the product of a crime...and a heinous one at that. Its just tuff....but the fact ur still arguing this in the case of an 11 yr old girl shows what a profound dirt nugget u are at the core of ur being. 

    ☕

    @clevfan4life said:

    no. But the baby is the product of a crime...and a heinous one at that. Its just tuff....but the fact ur still arguing this in the case of an 11 yr old girl shows what a profound dirt nugget u are at the core of ur being. 

    ☕

    As you agree. No.

    its not pretty but just like you and I agree that baby does not deserve to be killed.

    yes the child will be born of heinously awful reasons , but the child gets there chance.

    what you think of me is irrelevant as I’ve stated before its

    not about you or me but about not taking the life of an innocent child.