Gerald McCoy/ Mike Daniels
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on the NFL channel - some guy says McCoy is a huge good character/great personality - and wondered if he would be a fit, because he would have to start. But Richardson also has to start.
and Ogunjobi ? coming off his season? He's earned the starting role.
I don't believe McCoy wants to be a rotational guy - he'll go elsewhere - but good that he interviewed with the Browns.
Browns are getting very serious respect..
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Dude played 9 years for a doormat team, who thanked him by releasing him. Once money is made, what's wrong with wanting a ring?
Nothing wrong with wanting a ring - but wanting to go to a team that is already playoff caliber, and ignores the chances of the Browns to be there... he's ignoring that the Browns are very possibly in the playoffs and maybe even the superbowl next year. I take it that he wanted to only go to a proven team, not looking at a team with tremendous talent and coaching, and promise to get there.
I like the players who love the challenge, and believe they can do it. Not just a guy who wants to join up with a team that has already done it.
Nothing wrong with wanting a ring - but wanting to go to a team that is already playoff caliber, and ignores the chances of the Browns to be there... he's ignoring that the Browns are very possibly in the playoffs and maybe even the superbowl next year. I take it that he wanted to only go to a proven team, not looking at a team with tremendous talent and coaching, and promise to get there.
I like the players who love the challenge, and believe they can do it. Not just a guy who wants to join up with a team that has already done it.
Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
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He is visiting Ravens next.
Kind'a Odd..1) We have former TB OC Todd Monkin.. 2) Ravens now have our former 2013 Browns DL coach Joe Cullen. Cullen was the DL coach in TB 2014 & 2015..3) The Bengals have the former Bucs LB coach Mark Duffner.. A) The Ravens can park McCoy next to Brandon Williams while they develope two rookies just drafted rotating Daylon Mack or Gerald Willis.B) In Cincy- they park McCoy next to Geno Atkins & they play every down..(cause their DT depth sucks)..
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Nothing wrong with wanting a ring - but wanting to go to a team that is already playoff caliber, and ignores the chances of the Browns to be there... he's ignoring that the Browns are very possibly in the playoffs and maybe even the superbowl next year. I take it that he wanted to only go to a proven team, not looking at a team with tremendous talent and coaching, and promise to get there.
I like the players who love the challenge, and believe they can do it. Not just a guy who wants to join up with a team that has already done it.
Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
just a huge hunch - after the first half? of the season under he who is gone...and the losses, and the inspired play and wins by Baker and the Guys after Kitchens and co took over - I'd say the difference was coaching. Especially with a new special teams coordinator....Just my goofy take on it all.
Although....
Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went ‘great’ and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says
"Updated 6:16 PM; Today 4:32 PMBy Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went “great” and they tried to sign him before he left town Friday, but he’ll honor a commitment to visit the Ravens on Tuesday, a league source said.
Talks between the Browns and McCoy’s agent, Ben Dogra, continue, and McCoy could end up signing with the Browns next week depending on how his trip to Baltimore goes. McCoy will return to Orlando to spend Memorial Day weekend with his family before heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that, but the Browns and Ravens are currently the frontrunners."
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fuck....ravens will throw more money at him even if they hsve to.sit him just to keep him awsy from us. Almost gusrantee this happens as the ravens will give him whatever ge wants just to keep him out of cleveland. Something im sure his agent is well aware of.
gah....let Blt be some guys sunset contract for once. I just hope the overpay bites them in the ass. He could have put up some old time numbers in cleveland playing with those other 2 DTs
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Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
just a huge hunch - after the first half? of the season under he who is gone...and the losses, and the inspired play and wins by Baker and the Guys after Kitchens and co took over - I'd say the difference was coaching. Especially with a new special teams coordinator....Just my goofy take on it all.
Although....
Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went ‘great’ and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says
"Updated 6:16 PM; Today 4:32 PMBy Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went “great” and they tried to sign him before he left town Friday, but he’ll honor a commitment to visit the Ravens on Tuesday, a league source said.
Talks between the Browns and McCoy’s agent, Ben Dogra, continue, and McCoy could end up signing with the Browns next week depending on how his trip to Baltimore goes. McCoy will return to Orlando to spend Memorial Day weekend with his family before heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that, but the Browns and Ravens are currently the frontrunners."
Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went ‘great’ and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says
"Updated 6:16 PM; Today 4:32 PMBy Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that,
That's what great about this time of year..These writers all use un-known "Sources".. Hell, they were only another 11 teams listed for McCoy's services from all 32 teams ?.. From what i hear in NC..The Panthers still want that one more visit..McCoy's got family? doubt they'd leave TB? but i'd certainly take the streets of Lake Erie life, far before the streets of Baltimore..
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fuck....ravens will throw more money at him even if they hsve to.sit him just to keep him awsy from us. Almost gusrantee this happens as the ravens will give him whatever ge wants just to keep him out of cleveland. Something im sure his agent is well aware of.
gah....let Blt be some guys sunset contract for once. I just hope the overpay bites them in the ass. He could have put up some old time numbers in cleveland playing with those other 2 DTs
fuck....ravens will throw more money at him even if they hsve to.sit him just to keep him awsy from us. Almost gusrantee this happens as the ravens will give him whatever ge wants just to keep him out of cleveland. Something im sure his agent is well aware of.
gah....let Blt be some guys sunset contract for once. I just hope the overpay bites them in the ass. He could have put up some old time numbers in cleveland playing with those other 2 DTs
Ravens may sign him ...for a lot more than the Browns, because they have a much more dire need for him on their D Line. See my thread on the AFCN position rankings. The Ravens, in my opinion, rank last in the league along the DL. They do not have the talent there that the Browns, Bengals or Steelers have.
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fuck....ravens will throw more money at him even if they hsve to.sit him just to keep him awsy from us. Almost gusrantee this happens as the ravens will give him whatever ge wants just to keep him out of cleveland. Something im sure his agent is well aware of.
gah....let Blt be some guys sunset contract for once. I just hope the overpay bites them in the ass. He could have put up some old time numbers in cleveland playing with those other 2 DTs
Ravens may sign him ...for a lot more than the Browns, because they have a much more dire need for him on their D Line. See my thread on the AFCN position rankings. The Ravens, in my opinion, rank last in the league along the DL. They do not have the talent there that the Browns, Bengals or Steelers have.
Ravens may sign him ...for a lot more than the Browns, because they have a much more dire need for him on their D Line. The Ravens, in my opinion, rank last in the league along the DL. They do not have the talent there that the Browns, Bengals or Steelers have.
Am not there yet.. 1) the Ravens just dumped 16M in dead cap money to dump Flacco..They only have 14.7M left in cap space. They just drafted 2 decent DT's this draft that won't develope much with McCoy & Brandon Williams getting most the reps..They maybe more in a rotational mode at DT with a McCoy onboard, more than us? They'd be lucky to get McCoy done for 1 year with that cap.. Edit--nothing wrong with signing a Dawg on HumpDay..keep talking Dorse
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Hopefully it happens, but you think you might be getting ahead of yourself? Forget about arguing playoffs or even Super Bowl, as that has been talked about enough (and I can even partially see why), and you did qualify that. But what exactly has anyone seen to call tremendous coaching?
just a huge hunch - after the first half? of the season under he who is gone...and the losses, and the inspired play and wins by Baker and the Guys after Kitchens and co took over - I'd say the difference was coaching. Especially with a new special teams coordinator....Just my goofy take on it all.
Although....
Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went ‘great’ and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says
"Updated 6:16 PM; Today 4:32 PMBy Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went “great” and they tried to sign him before he left town Friday, but he’ll honor a commitment to visit the Ravens on Tuesday, a league source said.
Talks between the Browns and McCoy’s agent, Ben Dogra, continue, and McCoy could end up signing with the Browns next week depending on how his trip to Baltimore goes. McCoy will return to Orlando to spend Memorial Day weekend with his family before heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that, but the Browns and Ravens are currently the frontrunners."
just a huge hunch - after the first half? of the season under he who is gone...and the losses, and the inspired play and wins by Baker and the Guys after Kitchens and co took over - I'd say the difference was coaching. Especially with a new special teams coordinator....Just my goofy take on it all.
Although....
Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went ‘great’ and he could sign here after visiting Ravens Tuesday, source says
"Updated 6:16 PM; Today 4:32 PMBy Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Gerald McCoy’s visit with the Browns went “great” and they tried to sign him before he left town Friday, but he’ll honor a commitment to visit the Ravens on Tuesday, a league source said.
Talks between the Browns and McCoy’s agent, Ben Dogra, continue, and McCoy could end up signing with the Browns next week depending on how his trip to Baltimore goes. McCoy will return to Orlando to spend Memorial Day weekend with his family before heading to Baltimore on Tuesday. He could take one more visit after that, but the Browns and Ravens are currently the frontrunners."
I'm not saying that they cant be, but certainly way too early to make that claim, especially as a pitch for a player.
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highly doubt signs with browns-reason why here he be in a rotation there are teams who will start him not use him in a rotation!
highly doubt signs with browns-reason why here he be in a rotation there are teams who will start him not use him in a rotation!
He's an older player. Maybe he likes the idea of not having to play every single play.
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Nothing...the problem is that he apparently is using ancient thinking that the Browns are not a team that could challenge for a title.
Not true at all Gips! He knows where Baker put his alma mater and how he jumper cabled this franchise to just 8 losses from an 0-16 record the year before as a rookie. Anyway, if it was reported 10 teams were interested in you - would it be wise to just visit the 1st team that might not be willing to pay you nearly what others could and accept their very 1st offer?
On the radio here, the hosts like to remind fans that fail to appreciate McCoy's 6 Pro Bowl efforts on the field all he's done for the community off the field - exactly how long Suh remained without interest in free agency in comparison to how many teams are competing for McCoy at this time.
My guess is McCoy will visit a few teams interested in him and pick the best blend of money and post season opportunity. That should make Cleveland a finalist IMO. However, I think our biggest challenge (besides Ratville) is him wanting to stay in Tampa's division so he can face them twice a year. And I thought our fanbase used to be brutal toward the little feller Colt McCoy. If you heard the Hatefields and Hatfields on the sports radio down here - they make it sound like this McCoy is Oklahoma's biggest bust since the Boz. And that's the kind of sting that might land him in Carolina or New Orleans. Although New Orleans doesn't have a whole lotta money left to pay a 31 year old DT somewhere between 11 and 13 million $ this year.
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Should we sign McCoy, then I wonder if Ogun becomes trade bait for OL help...
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Should we sign McCoy, then I wonder if Ogun becomes trade bait for OL help...
I have trouble seeing that playing out. Especially in regards to the long term outlook on the Dline. Trading a cheap and effective player growing into his own in just a 3rd season? I compare him favorably to Michael Brockers. I also don't think the return on a potential trade would net us a player that has flashed at his spot like Larry has so far.
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Why would we trade Ogunjobi?.. He's younger than McCoy.. That makes absolutely no sense Tour...
It makes sense when you're in the "win now" fever Dorsey has caught. If he thinks he can bring in somebody as an upgrade to Tretter or Hubbard especially. Jobi is a decent young bargaining chip. But like I said earlier, my concern is the return on investment in such a trade.
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“Win now fever” does not equate trading players who’ve shown tremendous potential at an early stage in their career.
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