Myles Garrett Agree or Disagree with DPOY?
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While true, it's also possible MG isn't very good or nearly as polished at other moves (
not sure i buy that based on what i saw in college and watching our own OL struggle with him. I can buy that in alot of circumstances ur trying to create a specific pocket situation so u dont want ur rushers doing whatever....esoecially with mobile qb's. But when its just get to the qb anyway u can....u dont want guys focused on 1 or 2 predictable moves. Makes no sense to me. I see ur poiht with Kearse but Kearse was no myles in terms of oversll skillset.
not sure i buy that based on what i saw in college and watching our own OL struggle with him. I can buy that in alot of circumstances ur trying to create a specific pocket situation so u dont want ur rushers doing whatever....esoecially with mobile qb's. But when its just get to the qb anyway u can....u dont want guys focused on 1 or 2 predictable moves. Makes no sense to me. I see ur poiht with Kearse but Kearse was no myles in terms of oversll skillset.
I'm not sure there's anything I can tell you that will make you feel better Clevsies. I still don't think we got the full story in terms of the why they only wanted him using 2 of the moves he's been taught. I do think there are reasons the man behind the decision never got to share in the way this info went public. If not, things are adding up here like A2+B2=ABBA
His position coach Clyde Simmons was a 2 time All Pro and 15 year vet with a 19 sack season and 13 sack season on the resume as a DE. Same guy coached Robert Quinn to 19 sacks in 2013 (a single season franchise record) and helped get Aaron Donald off to a great start hurrying/sacking passers. Hard to see a handcuffing mentality from Simmons there. Bruce Smith also worked with MG on moves and fundamentals thanks in large to GW initiating it. That's a pretty good wealth of knowledge and instructions Williams helped equip MG with. That's why it seems weird GW would do all that only to restrict the volume of moves he wants out of MG if had zero reason to do that.
It doesn't make sense especially when GW got career best seasons out of Kearse (as a rookie playing a brand new position) and Will Smith in the same seasons he coached both of those defenses to SBs. Pretty good track record for getting career best sack totals of out talented DEs that doesn't have me thinking chicken shitt DC at all. MG made the Pro Bowl the first season he was healthy in Cleveland. That may not make you feel better; but it's pretty good start to build on. If MG is disappointed like you are - that can be a good thing in the sense we won't have to worry about anyone needing to light his fanny. It's lit!
We'll see what happens this year...
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not sure i buy that based on what i saw in college and watching our own OL struggle with him. I can buy that in alot of circumstances ur trying to create a specific pocket situation so u dont want ur rushers doing whatever....esoecially with mobile qb's. But when its just get to the qb anyway u can....u dont want guys focused on 1 or 2 predictable moves. Makes no sense to me. I see ur poiht with Kearse but Kearse was no myles in terms of oversll skillset.
I'm not sure there's anything I can tell you that will make you feel better Clevsies. I still don't think we got the full story in terms of the why they only wanted him using 2 of the moves he's been taught. I do think there are reasons the man behind the decision never got to share in the way this info went public. If not, things are adding up here like A2+B2=ABBA
His position coach Clyde Simmons was a 2 time All Pro and 15 year vet with a 19 sack season and 13 sack season on the resume as a DE. Same guy coached Robert Quinn to 19 sacks in 2013 (a single season franchise record) and helped get Aaron Donald off to a great start hurrying/sacking passers. Hard to see a handcuffing mentality from Simmons there. Bruce Smith also worked with MG on moves and fundamentals thanks in large to GW initiating it. That's a pretty good wealth of knowledge and instructions Williams helped equip MG with. That's why it seems weird GW would do all that only to restrict the volume of moves he wants out of MG if had zero reason to do that.
It doesn't make sense especially when GW got career best seasons out of Kearse (as a rookie playing a brand new position) and Will Smith in the same seasons he coached both of those defenses to SBs. Pretty good track record for getting career best sack totals of out talented DEs that doesn't have me thinking chicken shitt DC at all. MG made the Pro Bowl the first season he was healthy in Cleveland. That may not make you feel better; but it's pretty good start to build on. If MG is disappointed like you are - that can be a good thing in the sense we won't have to worry about anyone needing to light his fanny. It's lit!
We'll see what happens this year...
I'm not sure there's anything I can tell you that will make you feel better Clevsies. I still don't think we got the full story in terms of the why they only wanted him using 2 of the moves he's been taught. I do think there are reasons the man behind the decision never got to share in the way this info went public. If not, things are adding up here like A2+B2=ABBA
His position coach Clyde Simmons was a 2 time All Pro and 15 year vet with a 19 sack season and 13 sack season on the resume as a DE. Same guy coached Robert Quinn to 19 sacks in 2013 (a single season franchise record) and helped get Aaron Donald off to a great start hurrying/sacking passers. Hard to see a handcuffing mentality from Simmons there. Bruce Smith also worked with MG on moves and fundamentals thanks in large to GW initiating it. That's a pretty good wealth of knowledge and instructions Williams helped equip MG with. That's why it seems weird GW would do all that only to restrict the volume of moves he wants out of MG if had zero reason to do that.
It doesn't make sense especially when GW got career best seasons out of Kearse (as a rookie playing a brand new position) and Will Smith in the same seasons he coached both of those defenses to SBs. Pretty good track record for getting career best sack totals of out talented DEs that doesn't have me thinking chicken shitt DC at all. MG made the Pro Bowl the first season he was healthy in Cleveland. That may not make you feel better; but it's pretty good start to build on. If MG is disappointed like you are - that can be a good thing in the sense we won't have to worry about anyone needing to light his fanny. It's lit!
We'll see what happens this year...
I just don't see MG as "Generational"... Michael Jordan and Jim Brown were "Generational".... MG has been just a little bit better than average.. I'm expecting BIG things out of him this year.. Or he can take a hike back to Texas...
EDIT!: I personally think MG is vastly overrated.. But we'll see... So far his sample size has been "just ok"...
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I'm not sure there's anything I can tell you that will make you feel better Clevsies. I still don't think we got the full story in terms of the why they only wanted him using 2 of the moves he's been taught. I do think there are reasons the man behind the decision never got to share in the way this info went public. If not, things are adding up here like A2+B2=ABBA
His position coach Clyde Simmons was a 2 time All Pro and 15 year vet with a 19 sack season and 13 sack season on the resume as a DE. Same guy coached Robert Quinn to 19 sacks in 2013 (a single season franchise record) and helped get Aaron Donald off to a great start hurrying/sacking passers. Hard to see a handcuffing mentality from Simmons there. Bruce Smith also worked with MG on moves and fundamentals thanks in large to GW initiating it. That's a pretty good wealth of knowledge and instructions Williams helped equip MG with. That's why it seems weird GW would do all that only to restrict the volume of moves he wants out of MG if had zero reason to do that.
It doesn't make sense especially when GW got career best seasons out of Kearse (as a rookie playing a brand new position) and Will Smith in the same seasons he coached both of those defenses to SBs. Pretty good track record for getting career best sack totals of out talented DEs that doesn't have me thinking chicken shitt DC at all. MG made the Pro Bowl the first season he was healthy in Cleveland. That may not make you feel better; but it's pretty good start to build on. If MG is disappointed like you are - that can be a good thing in the sense we won't have to worry about anyone needing to light his fanny. It's lit!
We'll see what happens this year...
I just don't see MG as "Generational"... Michael Jordan and Jim Brown were "Generational".... MG has been just a little bit better than average.. I'm expecting BIG things out of him this year.. Or he can take a hike back to Texas...
EDIT!: I personally think MG is vastly overrated.. But we'll see... So far his sample size has been "just ok"...
I just don't see MG as "Generational"... Michael Jordan and Jim Brown were "Generational".... MG has been just a little bit better than average.. I'm expecting BIG things out of him this year.. Or he can take a hike back to Texas...
EDIT!: I personally think MG is vastly overrated.. But we'll see... So far his sample size has been "just ok"...
he's been on a bad team with no other edge help. Khalil mack had 19 sacks after year 2...myles has 20.
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Myles has become a "Waterboys" supporter and is trying to raise $45,000 towards a water well in East Africa. They talked about this briefly on NFL Radio yesterday.
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I just don't see MG as "Generational"... Michael Jordan and Jim Brown were "Generational".... MG has been just a little bit better than average.. I'm expecting BIG things out of him this year.. Or he can take a hike back to Texas...
EDIT!: I personally think MG is vastly overrated.. But we'll see... So far his sample size has been "just ok"...
he's been on a bad team with no other edge help. Khalil mack had 19 sacks after year 2...myles has 20.
he's been on a bad team with no other edge help. Khalil mack had 19 sacks after year 2...myles has 20.
I get that.. This is a pivotal year for him... This is where you hope he ascends toward his prime...
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he's been on a bad team with no other edge help. Khalil mack had 19 sacks after year 2...myles has 20.
I get that.. This is a pivotal year for him... This is where you hope he ascends toward his prime...
I get that.. This is a pivotal year for him... This is where you hope he ascends toward his prime...
yeah there's really no excuse this year to not be a 12+ sack guy is there? lol. If you can't get double digit sacks with that front?......
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Myles is one helluva DE. I know it, you all know it, & NFL Teams know it. He will get a lot of "special treatment" from OLs this year. The big difference will be the guys on the DL with him. When MG is stopped, opportunities will be there for others & we have the horses now to take advantage of those opportunites. His sacks may go up, down, or stay as is, but his mere presence benefits the TEAM effort, whether or not he makes the tackle.
Myles Garrett is a playmaker AND play creator for others. THAT (imo) is what makes him great & so valuable. DPOY (based on stats)? Who knows? DMVP (based on value to Team)? Quite possibly.
We'll see.
Mike
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Then I think about how many times he was dragged down on the way to many other sacks.
Exactly. Sacks are great for stats guys but QB pressure and penalties are stats that don’t get the same love.
If Baker is the man on offense, he is the man on Defense. That’s what #1 picks are supposed to be. Explosive. Strong, long arms, etc.
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Just don’t make him angry...you wouldn’t like MG when he’s angry.
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Myles has become a "Waterboys" supporter and is trying to raise $45,000 towards a water well in East Africa. They talked about this briefly on NFL Radio yesterday.
Myles has become a "Waterboys" supporter and is trying to raise $45,000 towards a water well in East Africa. They talked about this briefly on NFL Radio yesterday.
Shout Out to Myles Garrett from the newly retired Chris Long https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=27158495 big shoes to fill..Congrats & thanks MG.. (start about 3:20)
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Myles has become a "Waterboys" supporter and is trying to raise $45,000 towards a water well in East Africa. They talked about this briefly on NFL Radio yesterday.
Shout Out to Myles Garrett from the newly retired Chris Long https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=27158495 big shoes to fill..Congrats & thanks MG.. (start about 3:20)
Shout Out to Myles Garrett from the newly retired Chris Long https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=27158495 big shoes to fill..Congrats & thanks MG.. (start about 3:20)
Wow!-Myles as Waterboys Captain "for the next 10 or 15 years, whenever your HOF career is done".
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whens the fucking preseason start already fuck
fuck
fuck
get this show fuckib started already
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I'm guessing (?? LOL) that Myles has his fair share of Fans other than Browns' Fans. It's nice to see him getting this well deserved praise from peers.
Mike
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whens the fucking preseason start already fuck
fuck
fuck
get this show fuckib started already
get this show fuckib started already
One of my favorite DE moves to watch
Reggie White's Hump move, never gets old watching..Garrett has this in him..quit holding him back ?
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get this show fuckib started already
One of my favorite DE moves to watch
Reggie White's Hump move, never gets old watching..Garrett has this in him..quit holding him back ?
One of my favorite DE moves to watch
Reggie White's Hump move, never gets old watching..Garrett has this in him..quit holding him back ?
thats the move joey had coming out of osu....one of the biggest reasons i wanted him as our LDE. That move completely collapses interior pockets and if the qb spills back it put him in the crosshairs of the speed RDE. In "traditional" 4-3 rush personnel packages at least.
fuuccckkk i hate talking pass rush with months still to go......fuck
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I'm guessing (?? LOL) that Myles has his fair share of Fans other than Browns' Fans. It's nice to see him getting this well deserved praise from peers.
Mike
I'm guessing (?? LOL) that Myles has his fair share of Fans other than Browns' Fans. It's nice to see him getting this well deserved praise from peers.
Mike
Just Aggie Faggies
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I'm guessing (?? LOL) that Myles has his fair share of Fans other than Browns' Fans. It's nice to see him getting this well deserved praise from peers.
Mike
Just Aggie Faggies
Just Aggie Faggies
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