Colin Coward
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Well...the Browns certainly DID exist at the time....there has never been a point since 1945 that they did not exist.
But, from what I understand, BB WAS fired after the settlement had been reached that granted Baltimore a franchise, and granted Modell the ownership of that franchise, and granted an assignment of all contracts to the new Baltimore franchise....though it had not yet been named The Ravens. I guess perhaps you would have to look deep into the details and the paperwork....but it is clear that Modell did not want BB as the HC of his new franchise. Maybe Modell refused to assign the BB contract to the new team..which meant that BB was technically still an employee of the Browns....maybe. Though the Browns at that time had been placed on "inactive" status. This all happened in the course of a couple of days, at most. But, the most likely scenario is that he was fired after the ink was dry on the settlement, and maybe BB contract status was in limbo. Whatever it was, he was free to pursue other opportunities.
But hell....even if the "move" had not happened, BB may have deserved firing. He had 4 out of 5 losing seasons, although the last one came with extenuating circumstances.
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
My simple advice.. "Don't feed the Troll"
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
My simple advice.. "Don't feed the Troll"
My simple advice.. "Don't feed the Troll"
Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
Ignoring is one great way... Another?.. WINNING! cures EVERYTHING!
EDIT:. I expect quite a bit of winning this year...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
Cowherd is a hack who only thrives because people like so many on this board get all riled up over his laughably obvious attempts to piss them off.
Regarding the local press, how exactly should have this franchise been covered over the last two decades? They have had TWO winning seasons since coming back in 1999, one playoff appearance (an epic choke job to your biggest rival) and have lost roughly 2/3rds of their games.
Reporting on this franchise in a positive light over all these years would have been ridiculously negligent to their readers. The Browns deserved all the negative press they got. You want someone to shove sunshine up your butt while the Browns flailed along helplessly? Watch Nathan Zegura.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
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Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
Cowherd is a hack who only thrives because people like so many on this board get all riled up over his laughably obvious attempts to piss them off.
Regarding the local press, how exactly should have this franchise been covered over the last two decades? They have had TWO winning seasons since coming back in 1999, one playoff appearance (an epic choke job to your biggest rival) and have lost roughly 2/3rds of their games.
Reporting on this franchise in a positive light over all these years would have been ridiculously negligent to their readers. The Browns deserved all the negative press they got. You want someone to shove sunshine up your butt while the Browns flailed along helplessly? Watch Nathan Zegura.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
Cowherd is a hack who only thrives because people like so many on this board get all riled up over his laughably obvious attempts to piss them off.
Regarding the local press, how exactly should have this franchise been covered over the last two decades? They have had TWO winning seasons since coming back in 1999, one playoff appearance (an epic choke job to your biggest rival) and have lost roughly 2/3rds of their games.
Reporting on this franchise in a positive light over all these years would have been ridiculously negligent to their readers. The Browns deserved all the negative press they got. You want someone to shove sunshine up your butt while the Browns flailed along helplessly? Watch Nathan Zegura.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
Dutch,
The 2 folks I referred to, MKC & Grossi, CONTINUE their negative crap during these new, positive times & you're DEFENDING their continuing with the negative BS because of the past? That's unfortunate as "now" is NOT the last 2 decades. It's a new time & a new culture.
It's time to stop looking back & START looking ahead!
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
My simple advice.. "Don't feed the Troll"
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Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
Ignoring is one great way... Another?.. WINNING! cures EVERYTHING!
EDIT:. I expect quite a bit of winning this year...
Ignoring is one great way... Another?.. WINNING! cures EVERYTHING!
EDIT:. I expect quite a bit of winning this year...
You would think your other way would work (winning), but with these guys like Skip, Cowherd, Smith, etc it doesn't. They find some way to justify their incorrect takes, or find something meaningless to continue it.
Baker as the example with CC, from undraftable to well you didn't celebrate with your team 1 time in 3 years, to childish actions with Hue, to being overrated, to it now being a bad thing having a teammates back and having a different personality than Brady or Luck. He even says INTs don't matter to him, especially when talking about 1 of his boys, Darnold or Luck. After the BALT game, he threw INTs.
And while I dislike him, I really have nothing to really dislike with the actual game of LBJ. Its really how he is talked about, things that appear to happen behind the scenes, and in between whistles for me. But look at how Skip talks about him. He doesn't use the same criteria for his guys.
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Cowherd is a hack who only thrives because people like so many on this board get all riled up over his laughably obvious attempts to piss them off.
Regarding the local press, how exactly should have this franchise been covered over the last two decades? They have had TWO winning seasons since coming back in 1999, one playoff appearance (an epic choke job to your biggest rival) and have lost roughly 2/3rds of their games.
Reporting on this franchise in a positive light over all these years would have been ridiculously negligent to their readers. The Browns deserved all the negative press they got. You want someone to shove sunshine up your butt while the Browns flailed along helplessly? Watch Nathan Zegura.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
Dutch,
The 2 folks I referred to, MKC & Grossi, CONTINUE their negative crap during these new, positive times & you're DEFENDING their continuing with the negative BS because of the past? That's unfortunate as "now" is NOT the last 2 decades. It's a new time & a new culture.
It's time to stop looking back & START looking ahead!
Mike
Dutch,
The 2 folks I referred to, MKC & Grossi, CONTINUE their negative crap during these new, positive times & you're DEFENDING their continuing with the negative BS because of the past? Sad.
It's time to stop looking back & START looking ahead!
Mike
I've seen people bitch and moan about those two (and others who dare report how shitty this organization has been) during 2-14 seasons.
I want specific instances of the "sad" negative crap they have written regarding these new and positive Browns that was completely baseless and unwarranted Mike.
Because I've seen Grossi on STO's RedZone for years, and as much as some of you complain about him, he is almost giddy talking about the Browns when they actually win or make smart organizational moves - for someone so many people think loves to shit on the Browns just to shit on the Browns. Hoorta has mentioned this multiple times too.
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Simple & to the point, thank you.
I think many on this Board would LOVE to see Cowherd, Grossi, & MKC go away. The only way that will happen is by ignoring them. PERIOD!
Mike
Cowherd is a hack who only thrives because people like so many on this board get all riled up over his laughably obvious attempts to piss them off.
Regarding the local press, how exactly should have this franchise been covered over the last two decades? They have had TWO winning seasons since coming back in 1999, one playoff appearance (an epic choke job to your biggest rival) and have lost roughly 2/3rds of their games.
Reporting on this franchise in a positive light over all these years would have been ridiculously negligent to their readers. The Browns deserved all the negative press they got. You want someone to shove sunshine up your butt while the Browns flailed along helplessly? Watch Nathan Zegura.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
Hopefully that era of futility is over, and the local media can report on the positive future.
Dutch, i'd like to believe this..but go find the one local media presser with Kareem Hunt in Cleveland. I wanted to truly poke MKC square in both eyeballs?.. just to save Hunt from doing it.I get he needed to face the music...But not "1" single positive question about playing football again?.From noOne?.Just the same 25 questions, asked differently, on the same video seen. And the guy's trying his hardest to get past it..I truly hope the media can move on from this ANd I bet Hunt can't wait to play in a meaningless pre-season game..(Than re-called back to cell #8, to hear it all over again) Call it deserved..but at some point, our media needs to take the lead on letting this Go!!
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Dutch,
The 2 folks I referred to, MKC & Grossi, CONTINUE their negative crap during these new, positive times & you're DEFENDING their continuing with the negative BS because of the past? Sad.
It's time to stop looking back & START looking ahead!
Mike
I've seen people bitch and moan about those two (and others who dare report how shitty this organization has been) during 2-14 seasons.
I want specific instances of the "sad" negative crap they have written regarding these new and positive Browns that was completely baseless and unwarranted Mike.
Because I've seen Grossi on STO's RedZone for years, and as much as some of you complain about him, he is almost giddy talking about the Browns when they actually win or make smart organizational moves - for someone so many people think loves to shit on the Browns just to shit on the Browns. Hoorta has mentioned this multiple times too.
I've seen people bitch and moan about those two (and others who dare report how shitty this organization has been) during 2-14 seasons.
I want specific instances of the "sad" negative crap they have written regarding these new and positive Browns that was completely baseless and unwarranted Mike.
Because I've seen Grossi on STO's RedZone for years, and as much as some of you complain about him, he is almost giddy talking about the Browns when they actually win or make smart organizational moves - for someone so many people think loves to shit on the Browns just to shit on the Browns. Hoorta has mentioned this multiple times too.
What I wrote are my observations & opinions. I'll not defend them to anyone else. You & I obviously see Grossi differently & that's ok.
Have a nice day.
Mike
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Well...the Browns certainly DID exist at the time....there has never been a point since 1945 that they did not exist.
But, from what I understand, BB WAS fired after the settlement had been reached that granted Baltimore a franchise, and granted Modell the ownership of that franchise, and granted an assignment of all contracts to the new Baltimore franchise....though it had not yet been named The Ravens. I guess perhaps you would have to look deep into the details and the paperwork....but it is clear that Modell did not want BB as the HC of his new franchise. Maybe Modell refused to assign the BB contract to the new team..which meant that BB was technically still an employee of the Browns....maybe. Though the Browns at that time had been placed on "inactive" status. This all happened in the course of a couple of days, at most. But, the most likely scenario is that he was fired after the ink was dry on the settlement, and maybe BB contract status was in limbo. Whatever it was, he was free to pursue other opportunities.
But hell....even if the "move" had not happened, BB may have deserved firing. He had 4 out of 5 losing seasons, although the last one came with extenuating circumstances.
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
Right agree it’s asinine the point to the firing of Bill Belichick as part of the reason why this franchise has sucked for so long. They were in active for three years after he was fired. The cause was poor management poor personnel selection not firing the Bill Belichick. like I said he may have been fired even if the team didn’t.
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You would have to read the posts to understand what I meant. Yes, they always existed, as nothing but employees went with them to Bal, and I don't think they were saying different, but at that time Cleveland had no team per say so the point was that whether he deserved fired or not, Coward is saying that is how bad this Browns franchise is and pointing to that as one reason why, when in fact it was Baltimore by then.
Just think its funny no matter how you slice it that he has a tell when something stupid he says is disproved that he shuts up, and even with proof he digs in. That is how obsessed he is with his stupid Baker take/fued
Right agree it’s asinine the point to the firing of Bill Belichick as part of the reason why this franchise has sucked for so long. They were in active for three years after he was fired. The cause was poor management poor personnel selection not firing the Bill Belichick. like I said he may have been fired even if the team didn’t.
Right agree it’s asinine the point to the firing of Bill Belichick as part of the reason why this franchise has sucked for so long. They were in active for three years after he was fired. The cause was poor management poor personnel selection not firing the Bill Belichick. like I said he may have been fired even if the team didn’t.
Someone brought up a good point the last time I saw that post. By Colin's logic, the Browns have 2 Super Bowl wins lol
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All I can say is:
“CLEVELANNDD! THIS IS FOR YOUUUUU!”
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Dutch,
The 2 folks I referred to, MKC & Grossi, CONTINUE their negative crap during these new, positive times & you're DEFENDING their continuing with the negative BS because of the past? Sad.
It's time to stop looking back & START looking ahead!
Mike
I've seen people bitch and moan about those two (and others who dare report how shitty this organization has been) during 2-14 seasons.
I want specific instances of the "sad" negative crap they have written regarding these new and positive Browns that was completely baseless and unwarranted Mike.
Because I've seen Grossi on STO's RedZone for years, and as much as some of you complain about him, he is almost giddy talking about the Browns when they actually win or make smart organizational moves - for someone so many people think loves to shit on the Browns just to shit on the Browns. Hoorta has mentioned this multiple times too.
Because I've seen Grossi on STO's RedZone for years, and as much as some of you complain about him, he is almost giddy talking about the Browns when they actually win or make smart organizational moves - for someone so many people think loves to shit on the Browns just to shit on the Browns. Hoorta has mentioned this multiple times too.
I agree, Grossi can be reasonable when he's on Red Zone, and he did own up that he was dead wrong about Baker. He's not the one to be concerned about anymore, because he likely has zero inside contacts. They could fire MKC for all I care...
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I don't have an account there either.... I may take a look at what Herd Boy is saying to dis the Browns. MHO is he's going to be eating crow all season and backtracking.
I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else.
Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield).
I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
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I don't have an account there either.... I may take a look at what Herd Boy is saying to dis the Browns. MHO is he's going to be eating crow all season and backtracking.
I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else.
Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield).
I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else.
Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield).
I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
I did read some of the Booger's tweets- and it's obvious his favorites can do no wrong. But if he doesn't like you- he's not going to let it go. Fer example, must be a Frontrunner Warriors fan. Only reason they're going to lose is "they wuz hurt". Tough s**t. I lost all respect for them after 'Bron and the boys beat them. Poker terminology- "I'll see your Irving and Love, and raise you a Durant".
PS- why I have zero respect for Durant- flipping off the Thunder to get a cheap ring with the Warriors.
PPS: EDIT: and now Cowpie will be all over the Warriors "Heroic Effort" in game 5. Hit that shot from the corner, and it's over Grover.
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I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else.
Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield).
I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
I did read some of the Booger's tweets- and it's obvious his favorites can do no wrong. But if he doesn't like you- he's not going to let it go. Fer example, must be a Frontrunner Warriors fan. Only reason they're going to lose is "they wuz hurt". Tough s**t. I lost all respect for them after 'Bron and the boys beat them. Poker terminology- "I'll see your Irving and Love, and raise you a Durant".
PS- why I have zero respect for Durant- flipping off the Thunder to get a cheap ring with the Warriors.
PPS: EDIT: and now Cowpie will be all over the Warriors "Heroic Effort" in game 5. Hit that shot from the corner, and it's over Grover.
I did read some of the Booger's tweets- and it's obvious his favorites can do no wrong. But if he doesn't like you- he's not going to let it go. Fer example, must be a Frontrunner Warriors fan. Only reason they're going to lose is "they wuz hurt". Tough s**t. I lost all respect for them after 'Bron and the boys beat them. Poker terminology- "I'll see your Irving and Love, and raise you a Durant".
PS- why I have zero respect for Durant- flipping off the Thunder to get a cheap ring with the Warriors.
PPS: EDIT: and now Cowpie will be all over the Warriors "Heroic Effort" in game 5. Hit that shot from the corner, and it's over Grover.
I have noticed that, but before recently he was against the Warriors in that way. He was on the Lebron train. So yea flip flops on some things. But the reason he is probably on this Warriors thing right now is because he was all in on Celtics winning it all. I tried to find it and couldn't, but after game 1 when they played Mil, he went on air going really hard. Then he wah wah wah his way through the rest of that series. I would definitely say from what I have seen he is way more on Lebron than the rest of NBA.
As for Durant, I feel really bad for him with the injury, but I don't care for him. Not as much as James for me, and I dislike Harden WAY more than either. But dislike him still. I would prefer Warriors win, but I don't dislike the Raptors at all. I am a Kobe guy, and there are a few guys in the league I like now, Curry, Thompson, Leonard. But the real reason I want Warriors is because of some of the talk about Steph and his "failures" in playoffs. I certainly wouldn't mind Toronto winning, and certainly Lakers as my team. If the Lakers had won though, I would want someone like Kuzma to be MVP, not LBJ haha.
It may seem like its strange the teams I like, but got to remember there is no pro team in my state. And it really just came like a lot of people passed down. So I got teams I like and players I like. And players I dislike and teams I dislike in some of those sports.
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I do have an account, but just read. I needed access for something else.
Sad part is it really won't be much of a backtrack. Just his MO. He will find something (just like the BB thing) to use. He will absolutely use a different set of rules to justify something (like playing off INTs for Darnold or Luck, but kill Mayfield).
I'll give you an example from this past year that has nothing to do with the Browns or any Cleveland team. He wasn't sold on Mahomes all year. In the playoffs, I guess he expected his wonder boy Luck to win. His premise was that Luck was the real MVP. So he declared that the winner of the game should win MVP. Chiefs win, well MVP is a regular season award, and look at the difference when they weren't the starters and Colts are still a rebuilding team, therefore Luck MVP. So he did backtrack, but just to double down on the same thing.
I did read some of the Booger's tweets- and it's obvious his favorites can do no wrong. But if he doesn't like you- he's not going to let it go. Fer example, must be a Frontrunner Warriors fan. Only reason they're going to lose is "they wuz hurt". Tough s**t. I lost all respect for them after 'Bron and the boys beat them. Poker terminology- "I'll see your Irving and Love, and raise you a Durant".
PS- why I have zero respect for Durant- flipping off the Thunder to get a cheap ring with the Warriors.
PPS: EDIT: and now Cowpie will be all over the Warriors "Heroic Effort" in game 5. Hit that shot from the corner, and it's over Grover.
this homo won't matter either..just waiting on that plate of crow
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