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  • W Westside Steve

    Somebody who gets an MBA and can't pay off his student loan is probably not using the degree all that wisely. But I get it everybody wants something for nothing.

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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    Somebody who gets an MBA and can't pay off his student loan is probably not using the degree all that wisely. But I get it everybody wants something for nothing.

    WSS

    There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

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      @mld-woody said:

      How much student loan debt for an MBA do you think Bernie will waive when he becomes president? Need to find my sweet spot here...

      Let me know when you find out from the Bernster.

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      @logicisforsquares said:

      Let me know when you find out from the Bernster.

      I'll shoot him a text

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        @westside-steve said:

        Somebody who gets an MBA and can't pay off his student loan is probably not using the degree all that wisely. But I get it everybody wants something for nothing.

        WSS

        There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

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        @mld-woody said:

        There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

        I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

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        • W Westside Steve

          @mld-woody said:

          There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

          I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

          WSS

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

          WSS

          At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

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            @westside-steve said:

            I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

            WSS

            At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

            Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

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              @westside-steve said:

              I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

              WSS

              At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

              I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

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              • W Westside Steve

                @mld-woody said:

                There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

                I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

                WSS

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                @westside-steve said:

                I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

                WSS

                Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

                But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

                I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

                  WSS

                  Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

                  But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

                  I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

                  But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

                  I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

                  I would assume that a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

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                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

                    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

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                    @logicisforsquares said:

                    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

                    picky picky picky

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                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

                      I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

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                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

                      I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        @mld-woody said:

                        Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

                        But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

                        I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

                        I would assume that a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

                        WSS

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        I would assume put a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

                        WSS

                        Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

                        I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

                        There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

                          I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                          I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

                          Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

                          I haven't had any issues with engineers.

                          My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            I would assume put a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

                            WSS

                            Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

                            I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

                            There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

                            I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

                            There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

                            And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

                            And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

                              Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

                              I haven't had any issues with engineers.

                              My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

                              I haven't had any issues with engineers.

                              My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

                              This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

                                I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

                                There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

                                And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

                                And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

                                WSS

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

                                And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

                                WSS

                                I'm also 90% joking in this thread. The vast majority of graduate level degrees shouldn't really get any taxpayer support. The issue is with undergrad degrees, which are pretty much necessary. Now these graduate degrees still have the problem of a rapid increase in tuition, but they're much more optional. 

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

                                  I haven't had any issues with engineers.

                                  My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

                                  This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

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                                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

                                  I'm telling you there hasn't really been any major change in degreed professional level hiring, at least within what I know (engineering) since Trump took over. Again, at least based on everything I'm seeing. 

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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

                                    picky picky picky

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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    picky picky picky

                                    I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

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                                      Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                      If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

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                                        If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

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                                        @canton-dawg said:

                                        If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

                                        After we address taking over the social media, we will work on these mortgages, comrade.

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          picky picky picky

                                          I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

                                          I think the people with fingers in their ears (and asses) reside on Capital Hill.

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