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  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    LogicIsForSquaresL MLD WoodyM 2 Replies
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

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  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    There's some expensive ass programs out there. Michigan included

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

    But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

    I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @westside-steve said:

    I have no doubt that's true. But 1 would think there are some expectations that come along with that price tag. 

    WSS

    Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

    But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

    I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

    @mld-woody said:

    Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

    But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

    I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

    I would assume that a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

    picky picky picky

    LogicIsForSquaresL 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    At least under Trump those graduating today have a good job market with rising wages to look forward to. 

    I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

    I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    Yeah those are the top programs with the best networking, professors, etc.

    But we're talking $140k plus for Chicago, Michigan, Etc.

    I'd love to... But fuck that's a lot of debt.

    I would assume that a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I would assume put a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

    WSS

    Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

    I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

    There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't think there's been a major change in the last two years. Degrees in demand are still in demand. Exploding student loan debt is still an issue. 

    I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

    Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

    I haven't had any issues with engineers.

    My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @westside-steve said:

    I would assume put a student with one of those top degrees should expect a pretty lucrative career. If that's not the case then it's probably not worth the expense.

    WSS

    Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

    I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

    There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

    I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

    There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

    And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

    And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I remember you complaining recently about the trouble you had with hiring. That is because this economy favors workers and they can be more selective about where they want to go instead of having to take the first available job because jobs are in such short supply.

    Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

    I haven't had any issues with engineers.

    My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

    @mld-woody said:

    Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

    I haven't had any issues with engineers.

    My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

    This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    Well I'm not exactly looking for a swing into those fancy, high paying, lucrative business careers (I don't think). Sure I'll bet on me... But it's still a lot.

    I could alternatively go to BW for $30k-ish, get the degree, check the box and learn something too. Just won't be as prestigious and stuff

    There's a debate about how much it really matters. Compelling arguments on both sides.

    And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

    And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    And one question should be if it's not for Success then how much should Joe Blow the taxpayer pay for Prestige?

    And I guess I kind of understand the networking thing oh, somebody that has a theater degree from NYU is probably rubbing elbows with people who will be successful, as opposed to the University of Akron. Not that the guy from NYU is any more talented but when your classmates turn out to be Stars... 

    WSS

    I'm also 90% joking in this thread. The vast majority of graduate level degrees shouldn't really get any taxpayer support. The issue is with undergrad degrees, which are pretty much necessary. Now these graduate degrees still have the problem of a rapid increase in tuition, but they're much more optional. 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    @mld-woody said:

    Hiring production workers. Machinists. Operators. Etc

    I haven't had any issues with engineers.

    My comment was more directed at degrees professionals

    This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    This economy is good for all workers though. This type of economy is better for workers than any union. I am not anti union but not for them either. My attitude is any employer who has a union probably deserves one.

    I'm telling you there hasn't really been any major change in degreed professional level hiring, at least within what I know (engineering) since Trump took over. Again, at least based on everything I'm seeing. 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • C calfoxwc

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Wages are increasing but when compared to inflation (3.2% increase in wages, 1.9% inflation) it ends up being a pretty minimal bump.

    picky picky picky

    @calfoxwc said:

    picky picky picky

    I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

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  • If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

    @canton-dawg said:

    If Comrade Bernie ever gets elected...I need to have a talk with him about the mortgages I've been paying. 🙂 

    After we address taking over the social media, we will work on these mortgages, comrade.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @calfoxwc said:

    picky picky picky

    I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I just like my numbers to be honest. That is why a lot of people put fingers in their ears about national debt.

    I think the people with fingers in their ears (and asses) reside on Capital Hill.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • I'm sure those who already paid off their student loans will get compensated as well...

    Canton DawgC MLD WoodyM 2 Replies
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    I'm sure those who already paid off their student loans will get compensated as well...

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I'm sure those who already paid off their student loans will get compensated as well...

    Reparations FOR ALL!!!!

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    I'm sure those who already paid off their student loans will get compensated as well...

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I'm sure those who already paid off their student loans will get compensated as well...

    Oh that would be fantastic. 

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply
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