Brown pants on the road??
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Well, let's review the Road schedule:
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:15 PM .... The Broncos have never in my recollection worn white at home....likelyhood of Brown pants...HIGH
3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM ... The Rats have worn white at home a few times, but I have noticed they ALWAYS wear that hideous Grape shiite when playing AFC North teams....likelyhood of Brown pants...HIGH
5 Oct 11 CLE @ BUF Ralph Wilson Stadium 1:00 PM ....The Bills have occasionally worn white at home, but it's NEVER hot in Buffalo....likelyhood of Brown pants....GOOD
6 Oct 18 CLE @ PIT Heinz Field 1:00 PM ....The Cheaters NEVER wear white in the Mustard Pit.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....VERY HIGH
8 Nov 01 CLE @ CHI Soldier Field 1:00 PM .....Da Bearz NEVER wear white at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....VERY HIGH
11 Nov 22 CLE @ DET Ford Field 1:00 PM ....The Lions have started to mix things up and will be sporting new unis this year, but historically they wear Blue at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants....MODERATE
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN Paul Brown Stadium ....The Bungholes occasionally sport the white at home, but like the Rats they always seem to wear the Black versus the AFC North teams.....likelyhood of Brown pants....HIGH
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM ....I have NEVER seen the Chiefs wear white at home.....likelyhood of Brown pants.....HIGH
So, if we're gonna wear 'em, good chance we'll see 'em alot. I'm not a big fan of toying with the uniform. I like the white/white combo very much myself, but if we're winning I don't care if they're wearing Danskin dance pants.
Doug
How the hell do you remember what each team wears at home? My god, your mind is almost brilliantly autistic or something. I can't remember what I wore yesterday or even earlier today.
I still find it hard to believe a team would give up an advantage of wearing dark unis in the heat if given the choice, sounds stupid to me. For those who played football, the difference in wearing a dark jersey to light jersey in any temps over about 60 are huge in the daytime.
Maybe it's college I'm thinking of, those southern teams play in some pretty extreme heat in the hottest part of the day.
How the hell do you remember what each team wears at home? My god, your mind is almost brilliantly autistic or something. I can't remember what I wore yesterday or even earlier today.
I still find it hard to believe a team would give up an advantage of wearing dark unis in the heat if given the choice, sounds stupid to me. For those who played football, the difference in wearing a dark jersey to light jersey in any temps over about 60 are huge in the daytime.
Maybe it's college I'm thinking of, those southern teams play in some pretty extreme heat in the hottest part of the day.
I'm gonna show the wife this post so that I can once and for all prove to her that I'm brilliant. The Riffer said so.
Don't know how or why I remember certain things so well, but when it comes to obsessions (The Browns, Alice Cooper, Football & Rock 'N' Roll), my mind is like a steel trap.
If I got to choose, we'd wear white, white in all 19 games....YES "19" games!
Doug
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I'm not crazy about the idea of playing around too much with the uniforms, but I won't have a conniption fit if they do it, especially in the preseason. Teams fiddle with their uniforms, including the Browns--you know, the guys who used to play in white helmets part of the time. The Browns just feel different because, well, for one thing, it's our team, and for another, most of the tweaks to the uniform have been minor.
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Maybe this:
would scare people, but probably for the wrong reasons.
I've never gotten the love for Brownie. It's not just that he's an elf (which is more annoying or creepy than intimidating), but he's not even a particularly scary type of elf. Here's a relevent passage from the Wikipedia entry on brownies:
>>Customarily brownies (A type of hob – see hobgoblin) are said to inhabit houses and aid in tasks around the house. However, they don't like to be seen and will only work at night, traditionally in exchange for small gifts or food. They take quite a delight in porridge and honey. They usually abandon the house if their gifts are called payments, or if the owners of the house misuse them. Brownies make their homes in an unused part of the house.<<
That's right, the mighty elf that's been scaring the pants off the NFL for half a century have also been helping shoemakers for centuries. Good God.
Dennis
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I'm just glad to actually see so many others that wouldn't mind changing up our uni's. I've been on this bandwagon for years that it's time to let go of the old. I didn't love the brown pants and thought they could have used something on the side but I did love the fact they were trying something new. And they didn't look that bad.
It's time to make a change for the future. We are constantly reminded of our history. We constantly hear of the championship days and what not. But the problem is this: IT IS 2009. That was.....wait for it.......50 FRIGGIN' YEARS AGO.
I've said this in the past and will state it again: It is time for the Browns to seriously look toward and strategize for the future. The fan base is dwindling faster than pop-culture stars are dying. When I travel around America I see fewer and fewer shirts, jerseys or Browns stuff overall. You can say that if we win that will change it all. But I contend that with the ADD society that is being created by the internet, twitter, texting and breaking news runners on the bottom of every station that the Browns are losing the interest of even it's core fan base in Cleveland. Kids don't have to root for the Browns because that's all they can see on TV or read about in the paper. They have an equal amount of access to ALL of the NFL teams. And with as finicky as kids are, many times they shy away from the Browns because of what they look like in their uni's.
There is a reason that every time a poll is taken from fans to players that our uni is in the bottom 3. It's because it's ugly. Face it. It is. We all love it because it's what we were raised around. We love it because our Dad's loved it. We love it because of what it used to stand for. We love it because it's the Browns. But they don't. They see an ugly uniform and a bad team. One is harder to fix than the other. Why not fix both?
All I'm saying is it's time to worry about maintaining our fan base and this is one avenue to attract the youth of America. We can sit back and say "Screw them if they don't like it. We don't need bandwagon fans or fans that aren't real fans." But that short-sighted view will cripple the future fanbase of our team and I, for one, hope that my son and daughter will have as many friends to enjoy the Browns and football with as I have in my 37 years.
Make the changes. Keep them minor. Don't add a logo to the helmet. Tweak the orange. There is a reason why hot rods are painted in a cool metallic orange and not safety barrel orange. Because it's cool and safety barrel orange isn't. Add a color like pewter or gray or silver. I'm not down with the 'wheat' or tan that was proposed, but I do appreciate the thought. Lose some of the stripes. We used to have a ton of stripes because we had LONG SLEEVES. We don't need them anymore. Things like this are what we need for our uniforms.
Evolve. Move forward. It's time.
Oh yeah - a little winning wouldn't hurt either.....
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I'm not crazy about the idea of playing around too much with the uniforms, but I won't have a conniption fit if they do it, especially in the preseason. Teams fiddle with their uniforms, including the Browns--you know, the guys who used to play in white helmets part of the time. The Browns just feel different because, well, for one thing, it's our team, and for another, most of the tweaks to the uniform have been minor.
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Maybe this:
would scare people, but probably for the wrong reasons.
I've never gotten the love for Brownie. It's not just that he's an elf (which is more annoying or creepy than intimidating), but he's not even a particularly scary type of elf. Here's a relevent passage from the Wikipedia entry on brownies:
>>Customarily brownies (A type of hob – see hobgoblin) are said to inhabit houses and aid in tasks around the house. However, they don't like to be seen and will only work at night, traditionally in exchange for small gifts or food. They take quite a delight in porridge and honey. They usually abandon the house if their gifts are called payments, or if the owners of the house misuse them. Brownies make their homes in an unused part of the house.<<
That's right, the mighty elf that's been scaring the pants off the NFL for half a century have also been helping shoemakers for centuries. Good God.
Dennis
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The brown pants wouldnt be so bad if they were striped with a big orange stripe in the middle with a white stripe on both sides of the orange or vica versa or even 2 small orange stripes with brown in the middle and some matching socks but the raw brown is total ghetto looks as classless as the last regime....
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Agree with doing SOMETHING. I like tradition, wouldn't favor a logo on the helmet, but if any team should think about a cool side-leg stripe, etc, it should be the Browns. What's the harm? Try it, if it isn't liked, bag it.
Tradition is important, but it can stymie innovation, creation, and progress as well.
The NFL may have to push some as I think as Mangini is only one step above the Bellicheck hooded sweatshirt. Butch Davis was asked by Jim Donovan once if he'd bring the orange uni's back out sometime, and Butch replied "oh, I have no idea, the NFL offices tell us what to wear and when". It may have been a line to get out of the answer, but probably some truth to it.
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I hate the all brown pants. Reminds me of the ratturds all black ones with the rat logo on the hip.
Maybe if they put the orange/white/orange stripe down the leg that is around the sleeves of the jerseys, I could get on board.. but hard to say.
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I'm not crazy about the idea of playing around too much with the uniforms, but I won't have a conniption fit if they do it, especially in the preseason. Teams fiddle with their uniforms, including the Browns--you know, the guys who used to play in white helmets part of the time. The Browns just feel different because, well, for one thing, it's our team, and for another, most of the tweaks to the uniform have been minor.
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Maybe this:
would scare people, but probably for the wrong reasons.
I've never gotten the love for Brownie. It's not just that he's an elf (which is more annoying or creepy than intimidating), but he's not even a particularly scary type of elf. Here's a relevent passage from the Wikipedia entry on brownies:
>>Customarily brownies (A type of hob – see hobgoblin) are said to inhabit houses and aid in tasks around the house. However, they don't like to be seen and will only work at night, traditionally in exchange for small gifts or food. They take quite a delight in porridge and honey. They usually abandon the house if their gifts are called payments, or if the owners of the house misuse them. Brownies make their homes in an unused part of the house.<<
That's right, the mighty elf that's been scaring the pants off the NFL for half a century have also been helping shoemakers for centuries. Good God.
Dennis
Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Dennis, when was the last time that you saw that elf thing endorsed or promoted by the team?
You can walk every inch of the Stadium and i guarantee you that, if at all, the only hint will be in some old photo.
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Yes, the uniforms are traditional, but it's tradition that comes from a franchise that thinks this:
is an intimidating mascot (hat tip to the Browns Board, by the way, for being the first hit on Google Images for "Brownie the Elf").
Dennis, when was the last time that you saw that elf thing endorsed or promoted by the team?
You can walk every inch of the Stadium and i guarantee you that, if at all, the only hint will be in some old photo.
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It's on a new hat I bought at the stadium last year in a logo starved moment.
i stand corrected. Coming to a tailgate party?
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When you're team is a winner, nobody wants to change a thing on the uniforms. When you've been through what we've been through the last 15 years, everything seems to need changing. Keep the uniforms, and put playmakers in them.
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I think we've all commented on this topic once or twice before? At least it's not another QB thread!
I still agree that a change in the Browns' uni's would be nice. Reading all the suggestions, I don't think anyone is really proposing a radical change. More or less, we all just want to see them upgraded to the new century?! Adding a stripe or stripes to the pants would look good...removing some of the stripes from the jersey would help...changing the orange to a metallic orange would look great...I don't mind a possible logo on the helmets, but don't really favor it either way. I think, if done correctly, it would look good. The helmets are a little dull, but I think altering the orange would help that and maybe, as someone already suggested, mixing in a little silver with our colors.
I'm not going to sit here and say that changing uni's will help the product on the field. But it could help with the fan base and definitely would help in merchandise sales. We know that if the team makes more money, they will be willing to spend more money.
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@shepwrite said:
A matter of taste. I like the Ravens black pants with just the Raven and nothing else... and I like the Browns all brown pants with just a logo, too... like the big B or something.That wouldn't be a bad idea or maybe just the helmet. I'd settle for maybe a few alterations to the uniforms and maybe a new logo. I mean some shows just show us as the color orange or just our helmet or the dawg face or just then word Browns or just the elf. It'd be nice to settle on one logo and run with it.
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It's on a new hat I bought at the stadium last year in a logo starved moment.
i stand corrected. Coming to a tailgate party?
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I think we've all commented on this topic once or twice before? At least it's not another QB thread!
I still agree that a change in the Browns' uni's would be nice. Reading all the suggestions, I don't think anyone is really proposing a radical change. More or less, we all just want to see them upgraded to the new century?! Adding a stripe or stripes to the pants would look good...removing some of the stripes from the jersey would help...changing the orange to a metallic orange would look great...I don't mind a possible logo on the helmets, but don't really favor it either way. I think, if done correctly, it would look good. The helmets are a little dull, but I think altering the orange would help that and maybe, as someone already suggested, mixing in a little silver with our colors.
I'm not going to sit here and say that changing uni's will help the product on the field. But it could help with the fan base and definitely would help in merchandise sales. We know that if the team makes more money, they will be willing to spend more money.
I think we've all commented on this topic once or twice before? At least it's not another QB thread!
I still agree that a change in the Browns' uni's would be nice. Reading all the suggestions, I don't think anyone is really proposing a radical change. More or less, we all just want to see them upgraded to the new century?! Adding a stripe or stripes to the pants would look good...removing some of the stripes from the jersey would help...changing the orange to a metallic orange would look great...I don't mind a possible logo on the helmets, but don't really favor it either way. I think, if done correctly, it would look good. The helmets are a little dull, but I think altering the orange would help that and maybe, as someone already suggested, mixing in a little silver with our colors.
I'm not going to sit here and say that changing uni's will help the product on the field. But it could help with the fan base and definitely would help in merchandise sales. We know that if the team makes more money, they will be willing to spend more money.
Agree with all including a general reservation to a helmet logo. Even Penn State has a cool looking lion they splash darn near everywhere except the helmet. It's a fan pleaser. It's also a reason the dog thing took off with Hanford, proving that fans like logos and mascots. Browns fans may even be starving for one. For the Tribe, I love the cartoon Wahoo. I know it has baggage, but hey, I'm Irish, and I realize the corny leprechaun ND uses is nothing more than a cartoon. But, that topic is for another thread.
Back to the point, a little effort on the uni's would be enough for me. Brown pants and a cool stripe or logo would be fine. Metallic orange helmets is intriguing me too.
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I like the numbers on the side as well, check out my avatar over there <------- The numbers look sweet.
I also like the orange Jerseys, I think orange jersey white pants, brown jersey white pants, white jersey orange pants, and brown jersey orange pants are all good combos.
Just not orange jersey brown pants, or brown jersey orange pants.
I do have to say I think the brown pants are bad luck, we were destroyed in that game
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The only thing worse than the white jersey and brown pants was the brown jersey and orange pants. Holy Christ that was ugly. Brown jerseys and brown pants would be absolutely horrific.
I'm with whoever said we should wear all white for all 19 games. I'll take the occasional Brown Jerseys with the white pants just for a change of pace..maybe once or twice out of the 16 games. But white on white the rest of the time for me...
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I wonder if theres anything we the fans can do to push for numbers on the helmets
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