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  • Good thing we didn't sign this guy --- he has gone 100% vegan.  Remember the cautionary tale of Houston RB Arian Foster who went vegan and immediately started having soft tissue injuries causing him to miss >50% of games for the remaining few yrs of his career.  My .02 says this will be McCoy's fate each season he's still around..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Good thing we didn't sign this guy --- he has gone 100% vegan.  Remember the cautionary tale of Houston RB Arian Foster who went vegan and immediately started having soft tissue injuries causing him to miss >50% of games for the remaining few yrs of his career.  My .02 says this will be McCoy's fate each season he's still around..

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

  • Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    @tiamat63 said:

    Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    Bump

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Not too worried.   Now there are rumors of Mike Daniels possibly being a cap cut victim in Green Bay.   ??

    Bump

    @tiamat63 said:

    Bump

    Why>?

    Nothing to see here from what I can tell.

  • Releasing Daniels isn't just a rumor

    Should finalize today because Pack starts training camp tomorrow.

  • Quoting yourself....... Jimmy would be impressed. 

  • So, what you all are saying is that the Packers are going to released this  30 year old defensive lineman....DT I believe, Mike Daniels. He was a Pro Bowler 2 years ago.  And I assume that you bring this up because there may be some advocacy for the Browns to sign him.

    OK,  I get that.  I have said all along that  our backup DTs may be a weakness on this team.    And while I don't know much about this guy...just saying "former Pro Bowler" about him tells me that at some point anyway he apparently far out produced the likes of Trevon Coley or Billy Price.

    Ergo....what is the opinion?   Sign him as an upgrade/rotational piece at our DT position?  Given that I have said we need an upgrade there...then it may be a good move.

  • Quoting yourself....... Jimmy would be impressed. 

    @d-bone said:

    Quoting yourself....... Jimmy would be impressed. 

    Thanks boo.

  • per espn's Adam Schefter...Mike Daniels will make the Browns his 1st visit.in today! Daniels was drafted by Dorsey's crew at GB & the grown butt man is a true monster ? passed McCoy's pressure numbers last season..EdiT--the Cabot clincher😉-MKC tweets, But will meet w/numerous teams & won't make decision today ?

  • most would get on board without having to register their e-mail to read this link....come on..Captain Clevis ?

  • most would get on board without having to register their e-mail to read this link....come on..Captain Clevis ?

    @gumby73 said:

    most would get on board without having to register their e-mail to read this link....come on..Captain Clevis ?

    not sure why the fuck that's happening for you, it's just a beacon journal link. I click on it, im not registered with them. Weird. Anyway, Mike Daniels? Y'all like that? He'd be a good 3 or 5 tech on our 34 packages.  6ft 290'ish...he can even sub in anywhere on the D line in our base defense. Could be a sneaky guy that puts up some fairly good numbers as offenses will be shellshocked mostly from keeping tabs on the track stars normally coming around the edge. Now all of a sudden you've got a low to the ground bull you have to deal with....could be a good change of pace rusher. 

  • I was able to get straight to the article... He’s no McCoy, but bring his ass on. Good for depth and competition. 

  • Here's my take Cleve..Garrett last season was the only player on D to play over 1000 snaps. Led the league with 1093 85.9% and 82 more on ST..Ogun finished just behind Donald in 7th place with 992/62 more on ST..Coley saw 691 in his worst season he's played..These new coaches can't continue to let their gas pumps, run out of gas late in games..G.McCoy(758) & Frank Clark(734).I've seen Daniels play 3 seasons of all 16 games from 13-2016.I've seen Pettine blow Daniels playing weight up to ala D.Shelton at 310lbs. Daniel had a hip issue in 2017,played 14. Only played 10 games in 2018, due to a left foot injury, suffered last nov. against Seattle. Daniels played 463 snaps last season,than Dec. moved to IR. In May of 2019.The packers announced they planned to scale back Daniels snaps.July 24th they decided to save 8.3M paying Daniels. Am no doctor, but age 30, coming off a bad foot has to raise medical red flags first.imo, We need 2 DT's that can pull 700 good reps behind Richardson & Ogun. Daniels certainly upgrades Price or Coley. The risk is Daniels will want close to McCoy dollars, with a higher risk to re-injury than McCoy. Above my pay scale ? forwarding to the experts..    

  • Price is the big selling point.  MD run defense grade wasnt great, but go check out his pass rush grade and pressure %.     ?

    He would be a welcomed spell for Sheldon and Jobi - especially in favorable pass rush downs/distances.

  • Here's my take Cleve..Garrett last season was the only player on D to play over 1000 snaps. Led the league with 1093 85.9% and 82 more on ST..Ogun finished just behind Donald in 7th place with 992/62 more on ST..Coley saw 691 in his worst season he's played..These new coaches can't continue to let their gas pumps, run out of gas late in games..G.McCoy(758) & Frank Clark(734).I've seen Daniels play 3 seasons of all 16 games from 13-2016.I've seen Pettine blow Daniels playing weight up to ala D.Shelton at 310lbs. Daniel had a hip issue in 2017,played 14. Only played 10 games in 2018, due to a left foot injury, suffered last nov. against Seattle. Daniels played 463 snaps last season,than Dec. moved to IR. In May of 2019.The packers announced they planned to scale back Daniels snaps.July 24th they decided to save 8.3M paying Daniels. Am no doctor, but age 30, coming off a bad foot has to raise medical red flags first.imo, We need 2 DT's that can pull 700 good reps behind Richardson & Ogun. Daniels certainly upgrades Price or Coley. The risk is Daniels will want close to McCoy dollars, with a higher risk to re-injury than McCoy. Above my pay scale ? forwarding to the experts..    

    @gumby73 said:

    The risk is Daniels will want close to McCoy dollars, with a higher risk to re-injury than McCoy. Above my pay scale ? forwarding to the experts..    

    He might, but he doesn't have the same luxury as McCoy did in the timing of his release. Teams filled up their cap space a good deal the past 2 months unlike when McCoy was on the market. McCoy wasn't coming off major injury bugs either as you said. He'll get a similar structure deal no doubt, I'd be really surprised if the max equals the same though (McCoy is about $10.5 million if he hits all his bonuses).

    We'll see, but he seems like a great upgrade that would come at a price worth the risk of re-injury. We definitely have the short-term cap for him too.

  • He left without a contract though.  Once they leave, they usually don't come back.   ('usually')

  • then bye felicia. Im not expecting dudes to take fast food wages to play for the browns...but if he goes somewhere else for an extra mill or 2, than bye. U take a bit of a hit fir the chance to play on that front. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Good thing we didn't sign this guy --- he has gone 100% vegan.  Remember the cautionary tale of Houston RB Arian Foster who went vegan and immediately started having soft tissue injuries causing him to miss >50% of games for the remaining few yrs of his career.  My .02 says this will be McCoy's fate each season he's still around..

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

  • @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    @clevfan4life said:

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    You must fart a lot. 

    And what about the poor poor baby goat for which that milk was intended? Sadly bleating in the corner. Breaks my heart.

  • @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    @clevfan4life said:

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    Sheep milk = Roquefort cheese. Yum.  As to vegans, to each their own. 

    PS Feta cheese (usually made from goat milk) is one of the few I don't like at all.