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  • Price is the big selling point.  MD run defense grade wasnt great, but go check out his pass rush grade and pressure %.     ?

    He would be a welcomed spell for Sheldon and Jobi - especially in favorable pass rush downs/distances.

  • Here's my take Cleve..Garrett last season was the only player on D to play over 1000 snaps. Led the league with 1093 85.9% and 82 more on ST..Ogun finished just behind Donald in 7th place with 992/62 more on ST..Coley saw 691 in his worst season he's played..These new coaches can't continue to let their gas pumps, run out of gas late in games..G.McCoy(758) & Frank Clark(734).I've seen Daniels play 3 seasons of all 16 games from 13-2016.I've seen Pettine blow Daniels playing weight up to ala D.Shelton at 310lbs. Daniel had a hip issue in 2017,played 14. Only played 10 games in 2018, due to a left foot injury, suffered last nov. against Seattle. Daniels played 463 snaps last season,than Dec. moved to IR. In May of 2019.The packers announced they planned to scale back Daniels snaps.July 24th they decided to save 8.3M paying Daniels. Am no doctor, but age 30, coming off a bad foot has to raise medical red flags first.imo, We need 2 DT's that can pull 700 good reps behind Richardson & Ogun. Daniels certainly upgrades Price or Coley. The risk is Daniels will want close to McCoy dollars, with a higher risk to re-injury than McCoy. Above my pay scale ? forwarding to the experts..    

    @gumby73 said:

    The risk is Daniels will want close to McCoy dollars, with a higher risk to re-injury than McCoy. Above my pay scale ? forwarding to the experts..    

    He might, but he doesn't have the same luxury as McCoy did in the timing of his release. Teams filled up their cap space a good deal the past 2 months unlike when McCoy was on the market. McCoy wasn't coming off major injury bugs either as you said. He'll get a similar structure deal no doubt, I'd be really surprised if the max equals the same though (McCoy is about $10.5 million if he hits all his bonuses).

    We'll see, but he seems like a great upgrade that would come at a price worth the risk of re-injury. We definitely have the short-term cap for him too.

  • He left without a contract though.  Once they leave, they usually don't come back.   ('usually')

  • then bye felicia. Im not expecting dudes to take fast food wages to play for the browns...but if he goes somewhere else for an extra mill or 2, than bye. U take a bit of a hit fir the chance to play on that front. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Good thing we didn't sign this guy --- he has gone 100% vegan.  Remember the cautionary tale of Houston RB Arian Foster who went vegan and immediately started having soft tissue injuries causing him to miss >50% of games for the remaining few yrs of his career.  My .02 says this will be McCoy's fate each season he's still around..

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

  • @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    @clevfan4life said:

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    You must fart a lot. 

    And what about the poor poor baby goat for which that milk was intended? Sadly bleating in the corner. Breaks my heart.

  • @hoorta said:

    He'll have to chow down on immense amounts of soy protein to maintain muscle mass- and I don't know if that stuff has all the essential amino acid precursors. OK, I looked- 8 out of 9.  Pro football player and 100% vegan probably doesn't mix. Join PETA while you're at it.  

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    @clevfan4life said:

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    Sheep milk = Roquefort cheese. Yum.  As to vegans, to each their own. 

    PS Feta cheese (usually made from goat milk) is one of the few I don't like at all.  

  • signed with the lions

  • It's not yet official, but it does appear he is signing with the Lions.Apparently he wants to start, which he probably wouldn't here. I wish him well & I applaud Dorsey for not overpaying for a 30 year old backup. We will survive.

    Mike

  • @clevfan4life said:

    there are more and better vegan sources of complete protein than soy. And simply adding brown rice to a bean like lentils gives u the full chain that meat does. The issue with vegans is they often dont understand you have to pull protein not just from two seperate sources, but "complimentary" sources. 

    ive become a beans and rice guy....ill eat meat occassionaly for taste but its not an every day or even weekly thing, like it used to be. And i still eat eggs so fuck vegans. tgey wont even eat honey or milk. Raw fucking goat milk is prob the best pure source of protein on the planet and nothing had to die for u to.drink it.

    Sheep milk = Roquefort cheese. Yum.  As to vegans, to each their own. 

    PS Feta cheese (usually made from goat milk) is one of the few I don't like at all.  

    @hoorta said:

    Sheep milk = Roquefort cheese. Yum.  As to vegans, to each their own. 

    PS Feta cheese (usually made from goat milk) is one of the few I don't like at all.  

    I LOVE a good Greek salad with Kalamata olives & feta cheese, although too much feta CAN overpower an otherwise great salad. John's Bar on Cleveland Ave NW in Canton has a great Greek salad. My standard order there is an order of smelt/cocktail sauce, a Greek salad & a beer or two. Gourmets may thumb their noses at that combo, but I love it!

    Mike

  • You'd have to become a Lions fan to support Mike Daniels' team this season.

    That Lions DL looks pretty solid now -- Trey Flowers, Damon Harrison, Da'Shawn Hand [87.4] and A'Shawn Robinson [89.8] before adding Daniels.

  • You'd have to become a Lions fan to support Mike Daniels' team this season.

    That Lions DL looks pretty solid now -- Trey Flowers, Damon Harrison, Da'Shawn Hand [87.4] and A'Shawn Robinson [89.8] before adding Daniels.

    @unsympathetic said:

    You'd have to become a Lions fan to support Mike Daniels' team this season.

    That’s a lotta money for a rotational DT. 7.8 mil guaranteed. Makes sense he chased the money and makes sense we weren’t the ones to pay it.

  • All 1 year deals. And winning in that 1 year mattered? Suh-TB-9.2M///McCoy-Car.-8M///Snacks-Lions-9.2M///Daniels-Lions-9.1M....sure seems like, top dollar to play..Win or lose? I hope Ogun, kicks ass & takes names later.. for just under 1M.. no harm & keep swinging at your price Dorsey..

  • He may have also wanted to do what McCoy did:   join a foe in the same division as the team that released him in order to get payback. 

  • He may have also wanted to do what McCoy did:   join a foe in the same division as the team that released him in order to get payback. 

    @the-gipper said:

    He may have also wanted to do what McCoy did:   join a foe in the same division as the team that released him in order to get payback. 

    But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    He may have also wanted to do what McCoy did:   join a foe in the same division as the team that released him in order to get payback. 

    But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

    @orion said:

    But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

    Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

  • @orion said:

    But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

    Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

    @the-gipper said:

    Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  

    No.  Not yet anyway.

  • @orion said:

    But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

    Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

    @the-gipper said:

    Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

    No we don't- and we weren't going to offer him a $9 million one year contract either. He apparently wanted to start, instead of being a rotational player, and the contract the Lions gave him isn't rotational money.  

    The tide has turned- and we don't need to overpay to get talent here anymore. 

  • As odd as it sounds l’m ok with not getting a guy like Daniels. The table is set for some fierce competition amongst the DL, and l kind of look forward to seeing who among the Zettels and Ekaules step up their game and push for playing time. 

  • As odd as it sounds l’m ok with not getting a guy like Daniels. The table is set for some fierce competition amongst the DL, and l kind of look forward to seeing who among the Zettels and Ekaules step up their game and push for playing time. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    As odd as it sounds l’m ok with not getting a guy like Daniels. The table is set for some fierce competition amongst the DL, and l kind of look forward to seeing who among the Zettels and Ekaules step up their game and push for playing time. 

    well zettel is a DE so unless he put on some considerable mass in the offseason he's not gonna be DT material. We're "set" st DE with Smith and Avery as rotation depth. There might be a spot for Zettel there as garbage time rotation. But DT depth still concerns me. We play Blt twice and thats the best interior OL in football....thsts a heavy lifting game. I dont want sheldon and jobi accumulating too much dmg in that game. Hopefully baker and thst offense can put so much pts on the board esrly that blt has to start passing sooner.