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  • @texasag1969 said:

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If Henry runs through us like butter in game one I'm blaming you for putting the jinx on us.??

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    double-down jinx.

  • @hoorta said:

    Nostalgia Gipper. Regarding Jim Brown. You watch those highlights, and tackling technique back then was atrocious compared to today. 

    No he's not, and wouldn't be. Freak of nature in his era, as Jim Thorpe was a few decades earlier. Nick Chubb is 5 pounds difference.   Bo Jackson was essentially the same player, and we know how that turned out. Bo supposedly ran a 4.2, and I seriously doubt Brown was any faster. Jim wouldn't be running over 300 pound DL either. There were maybe 3 (if that) in the entire NFL the years Brown played. He might be able to run around them, but he'd be running into linebackers that were every bit as big, or bigger than he was- and damn near as fast. Remember Jim's battles with Same Huff? Funny- one of the few LBs of the early 60s who was the same size as Brown. 

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    @the-gipper said:

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    maybe it is just that sweatshirt.....but even in that video u can see a diff in the face from his presser the other day. No issue with what he looks like in ur vid. But rem that vid could have bern posted 4 weeks ago but recorded much earlier in the offseason

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The board is bending at the seams to crack off some gay jokes and you are not making it easy to hold back. 

    not sure how a thread about jobi seemingly getting under DT weight is pressing the "gayzone".....but clevfan is not one to pass up an opportunity when its presented.

    So, as anyone who's played in the trenches can attest....u gotta have ass if ur gonna survive down there. Can we get Tiamat to surrepetitiously take pictures of jobi's backside for a definitive conclusion on whether he's lost too much weight? We're def creeping toward the deep end here but its for the "research". 

    When it comes to OL and DL....an old wiseman, circa 1992. said it best...

  • @the-gipper said:

    Henry couldn’t hold Jim Brown’s jockstrap. 

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

    @gumby73 said:

    gumby73  no more further silly questions, your retired honor ?

    No I am not 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    @hoorta said:

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    He would as much as anyone today would 

  • @hoorta said:

    Not saying  JB wouldn't.  My point  being Brown was a man among  boys in his era. Today, he's  just another man among other men. He's not  running over  guys like  JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    @the-gipper said:

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

    @hoorta said:

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition. 

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He would as much as anyone today would 

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

    @hoorta said:

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition.  

    Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto. 

    his conditioning would’ve matched that of his opponents just like his nutritional habits would’ve match those up to today’s standards.  Again sure 350 pound lineman probably won’t be getting a piggyback ride from him but he would still as I said and I repeat as I said he would still be the best back in the game today even if he isn’t running over 350 pound  linemen

  • @hoorta said:

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition. 

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

    That doesn’t look like Jim Brown to me. And you may be all over Derek Henry’s chrome dome but right now I don’t know that he ranks in the top 10 current running backs. He would not be given the same rating as Zeke Elliott or Saquon Barkley or Gurley or maybe a number of other guys 

  • The bigger question is if Ali would've beaten Tyson........... 

  • The bigger question is if Ali would've beaten Tyson........... 

    @d-bone said:

    The bigger question is if Ali would've beaten Tyson........... 

    21 yr old mike.....Ali has no chance. 

  • Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.

    Mike

  • Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.

    Mike

    ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power. 

    Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division. 

    whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily. 

  • @canton-mike said:

    Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.

    Mike

    ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power. 

    Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division. 

    whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power. 

    Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division. 

    whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily. 

    Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power. 

    Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division. 

    whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily. 

    Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.

    Yep! He also had the fastest hands I ever saw.

    Mike

  • @clevfan4life said:

    ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power. 

    Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division. 

    whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily. 

    Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.

    i know what ali was...carreer wise he's the goat, hands down. My point is had dmato not died and don king got his hands on mike.....this wouldnt be much of a discussion. Post jail mike lost his head movement which was more important than his power.

  • Everyone has a plan until they are hit in the face 

  • @hoorta said:

    Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?  

     Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique,  (and size) of the opposition. 

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

    I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently.   We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.

    I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.

    @hoorta said:

    I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.

    Except he has another gear when he gets past the LBs. You can see it in that play down the sidelines to the left out of the Wild-cat when he bounces it left, stiffarms and then puts on the jets. Starts at the 1:54 mark. Lynch does not have that extra gear. It's those long strides that make it very deceptive, but just look at the speed compared to those trying to knock him out of bounds. Those are not slow players he flies by. That is where he reminds me more of Eric Dickerson and his long deceptive strides that accelerated him past people downfield. Henry is not quite as fast, but nobody had Dickerson's 7th gear except Bo. 6th gear works just fine for Henry in the open field. It's as fast as most DBs.