wtf? Ogunjobi lookin like an OLB'er....
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Jim Brown would still be the best running back in the game if he played today based on his size speed and strength period.
Not saying JB wouldn't. My point being Brown was a man among boys in his era. Today, he's just another man among other men. He's not running over guys like JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.
Not saying JB wouldn't. My point being Brown was a man among boys in his era. Today, he's just another man among other men. He's not running over guys like JJ Watt or Aaron Donald.
He would as much as anyone today would
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He would as much as anyone today would
Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto.
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He would as much as anyone today would
Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto.
Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
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He would as much as anyone today would
Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto.
Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Adrian Peterson good? Sure. HOF good? Ditto.
his conditioning would’ve matched that of his opponents just like his nutritional habits would’ve match those up to today’s standards. Again sure 350 pound lineman probably won’t be getting a piggyback ride from him but he would still as I said and I repeat as I said he would still be the best back in the game today even if he isn’t running over 350 pound linemen
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Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
That doesn’t look like Jim Brown to me. And you may be all over Derek Henry’s chrome dome but right now I don’t know that he ranks in the top 10 current running backs. He would not be given the same rating as Zeke Elliott or Saquon Barkley or Gurley or maybe a number of other guys
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The bigger question is if Ali would've beaten Tyson...........
21 yr old mike.....Ali has no chance.
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Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.
Mike
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Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.
Mike
Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.
Mike
ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
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Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.
Mike
ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.
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ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.
Yep! He also had the fastest hands I ever saw.
Mike
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ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. No one could catch Ali in his prime let alone get a good shot on him. He did the rope a dope late in his career in horrendous tropical weather. And he had a great long left jab that kept opponents from getting close as well as those quick legs.
i know what ali was...carreer wise he's the goat, hands down. My point is had dmato not died and don king got his hands on mike.....this wouldnt be much of a discussion. Post jail mike lost his head movement which was more important than his power.
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Everyone has a plan until they are hit in the face
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Again Gipper- regarding JB. Don't live off of nostalgia. You don't see any running backs giving guys piggy back rides for 10 yards into the end zone anymore. Do you?
Brown would actually have had to work out (from reports I've seen, very little) , but the overall improvement in his condition wouldn't come close to the overall improvement in conditioning, technique, (and size) of the opposition.
Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.
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Anyone who can't see JB in these 4 successive runs starting at 1:51 mark is not paying attention to what he's been doing most recently. We must treat him as if he is that good when he comes to town game one or we will lose. Just sayin'! And want to see an 11 yd. run thru traffic down to the 2 with a TD next? Then go to the 3:34 mark. Scary how good he is getting.
I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.
I'm seeing more of Marshawn Lynch than JB. Sure, he's good and will have to be game planned for.
Except he has another gear when he gets past the LBs. You can see it in that play down the sidelines to the left out of the Wild-cat when he bounces it left, stiffarms and then puts on the jets. Starts at the 1:54 mark. Lynch does not have that extra gear. It's those long strides that make it very deceptive, but just look at the speed compared to those trying to knock him out of bounds. Those are not slow players he flies by. That is where he reminds me more of Eric Dickerson and his long deceptive strides that accelerated him past people downfield. Henry is not quite as fast, but nobody had Dickerson's 7th gear except Bo. 6th gear works just fine for Henry in the open field. It's as fast as most DBs.
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Tyson couldn't wipe Ali's ass! Just an old man's opinion & I saw them both in their primes.
Mike
ali couldnt hit mikes head movement. If tyson caught him and ali went rope a doping....tyson would chop through that guard. Other men ali faced hit as hard as mike but not in such quick succession...they had to load up their power unlike mike who could uncork multiple bombs nano seconds apart that had no dropoff in power.
Only way ali would win is if he lirerally turned his back and ran for 12 rounds. Mike in his prime was just something that was never seen before and not seen since in the HW division.
whsts freakish is that tyson never lifted weights in his prime..before his jail stint. Just 1000's of pushups, pullups and situps daily.
ali couldnt hit mikes head movement.
Joe Frazier would beg to differ.
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ali couldnt hit mikes head movement.
Joe Frazier would beg to differ.
Joe Frazier would beg to differ.
no disrespect to smokin joe...but that smoke movement doesnt compare to mikes peekaboo style. In his prime mind you.....mike tyson was one of the greatest athletes in history. That core dip and bend he had while at the same time being able to fire cannon rounds out of those off angles, nobody in the hw division was ever like that. Dempsey was the closest. I rank Dempsey right up there with Tyson and Ali...he would have given both a heck of a fight despite being a 185'er.
Dmato found his perfect muse in Mike. That dude at 17 looked like a 30 yr old athlete in his prime.....no disrespect to the overall goat, but i just dont see Ali winning more than 1 out of 3 fights against Mike in his prime. He certainly wouldnt have been intimidated by mike tho.
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Mike Tyson may have been the most overrated heavyweight champ in history.
Who worth anything did he ever beat?
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Joe Frazier would beg to differ.
no disrespect to smokin joe...but that smoke movement doesnt compare to mikes peekaboo style. In his prime mind you.....mike tyson was one of the greatest athletes in history. That core dip and bend he had while at the same time being able to fire cannon rounds out of those off angles, nobody in the hw division was ever like that. Dempsey was the closest. I rank Dempsey right up there with Tyson and Ali...he would have given both a heck of a fight despite being a 185'er.
Dmato found his perfect muse in Mike. That dude at 17 looked like a 30 yr old athlete in his prime.....no disrespect to the overall goat, but i just dont see Ali winning more than 1 out of 3 fights against Mike in his prime. He certainly wouldnt have been intimidated by mike tho.
Dempsey was the closest.
I shook Dempsey's hand once. I was 7-ish on a trip to NYC and one nite the family ate at "his" restaurant. I still remember how small he made me feel.
My other famous boxer handshake? Ali. He spoke at CWRU when I went there. The man had massive hands.
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Dempsey was the closest.
I shook Dempsey's hand once. I was 7-ish on a trip to NYC and one nite the family ate at "his" restaurant. I still remember how small he made me feel.
My other famous boxer handshake? Ali. He spoke at CWRU when I went there. The man had massive hands.
I shook Dempsey's hand once. I was 7-ish on a trip to NYC and one nite the family ate at "his" restaurant. I still remember how small he made me feel.
My other famous boxer handshake? Ali. He spoke at CWRU when I went there. The man had massive hands.
People forget that Liston was the killer/mauler Tyson-like fighter of Ali's day and Ali (as Clay) just danced around him like a bantamweight throwing out that stinging left jab until Liston just gave up. Even just put the left in his face to keep him at bay like a RB using a stiff-arm. Ali was actually much bigger than most people realize because he didn't move like a really big guy at all in his prime.
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