El Paso shooter pic here we go again
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i take exception to it being "right wing"
the link source did better in that it didnt mention "right wing"
but keep the hate rhetoric going - itll get us nowhere...
So when nutjobs in Antifa attack people, it's called left-wing/leftie/libtard violence by people on here, but now that it's right-wingers in El Paso pulling the trigger, I'm keeping the "hate rhetoric going". Give me a break. I'm calling it for what it is: extremist, anti-immigrant right-wing violence, fueled by rhetoric coming from the right-wing community.
And frankly, I don't really give two fucks if you take exception to it being called that or not.
So when nutjobs in Antifa attack people, it's called left-wing/leftie/libtard violence by people on here, but now that it's right-wingers in El Paso pulling the trigger, I'm keeping the "hate rhetoric going". Give me a break. I'm calling it for what it is: extremist, anti-immigrant right-wing violence, fueled by rhetoric coming from the right-wing community.
And frankly, I don't really give two fucks if you take exception to it being called that or not.
You already knew this is how they'd react. You asked the question at the beginning of the thread but you knew the answer
- Any Muslim that does something like this is part of Islamic extremist terrorism
- this guy is just a crazy person. Not a trend or part of a group
- he's not a terrorist. No way.
- he isn't right wing at all. He only wanted fame. Definitely his only motive
Smh. Just head in the sand shit. No problem jumping on all of this stuff when it fits their narrative but heaven forbid when the shooter looks like them or can be linked to their political beliefs.
And yes Steve, 8chan matters here because it's a breeding ground for right wing extremism. That's a fact.
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At least some prominent conservatives have the decency to call a spade a spade on this issue:
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Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
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How has banning drugs worked out?
What? You mean there are still drugs on the streets? And people still die from overdosing? And an entire underground industry exists that creates violent crimes pushes illegal drugs out into the streets?
But surely banning guns won’t have the same effect.
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How has banning drugs worked out?
What? You mean there are still drugs on the streets? And people still die from overdosing? And an entire underground industry exists that creates violent crimes pushes illegal drugs out into the streets?
But surely banning guns won’t have the same effect.
How has banning drugs worked out?
What? You mean there are still drugs on the streets? And people still die from overdosing? And an entire underground industry exists that creates violent crimes pushes illegal drugs out into the streets?
But surely banning guns won’t have the same effect.
1) Then legalize drugs. Why have any laws then?
2) Drugs hurt the user
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Violence against others because of their nationality or race is one of the most despicable type? Seriously? I would say every act of violence against any human being for any fucking reason is equally despicable. If I had to drag them I would think that shooting children in school or beating raping and killing a woman would be more Despicable.
But of course no saying person thinks this kind of action is cool. The discussion has nothing to do with sanity.
WSS
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How has banning drugs worked out?
What? You mean there are still drugs on the streets? And people still die from overdosing? And an entire underground industry exists that creates violent crimes pushes illegal drugs out into the streets?
But surely banning guns won’t have the same effect.
1) Then legalize drugs. Why have any laws then?
2) Drugs hurt the user
1) Then legalize drugs. Why have any laws then?
it seems they are slowly eliminating those laws doesn't it?
2) Drugs hurt the user
so drug addicts don't cause problems for society? Good to know.
Are you willing to go the direction of Australia and England? If not, why not?
WSS
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Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
CNN has been blaming Trump also.
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Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
and Obama gets blamed by most of this board for any negative incident done by a minority, a Muslim, or a left wing person
that being said, Trump has repeatedly called immigrants from the south coming to this country an "invasion" and this guys manifesto used the same terminology.
There are plenty of issues at play here and Trump obviously isn't responsible, but he sure as hell isn't helping
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So you are joining the Australia & New Zealand solutions? Well that's worth taking a look at then isn't it.
All I'm asking you to do is be realistic. If not it's only political posturing. Now you should look at how many people died in mass shootings every year and compare that to other deaths. If you think it's worth repealing the Second Amendment to cut down on the 20 or 30 or even 40 or 50 deaths a year...
WSS
All I'm asking you to do is be realistic. If not it's only political posturing. Now you should look at how many people died in mass shootings every year and compare that to other deaths. If you think it's worth repealing the Second Amendment to cut down on the 20 or 30 or even 40 or 50 deaths a year...
WSS
I'm not talking repealing it at all. I'm talking defining it properly and that is where the discussion should be. It's already been done to some extent with the outlawing of automatic weapons. Some states also have magazine limits as well in their gun laws. But it's not universal across the U.S. like it should be. See below for my thoughts on military level weapons.
aha. the old LIBERAL recourse. nobody is talking "Minuteman",
You know I meant that figuratively cal, not literally. My point was if you want to use military weapons, that's where you can do so legally. Nobody else "needs" to have military style weapons, even if limited to semi-auto. Persons like us with CCWs/LTCs are severely limited in range/accuracy compared to those kinds of weapons. If I'm stuck in a mall shooting like that I at least want a semi-fair chance at stopping it.
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Here's Cleve out shooting:
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unfortunately our govt. is just bought and sold by gun lobbyists. The NRA is a sham. We can't even pass some basic gun reform. And why in the fuck does anyone need to own an AR15?
At the rate we're going this shit isn't going to keep up. Based on polling now and the continued path of current events I don't think my generation is going to keep the status quo. There will be gun reform and changes coming.
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Matt Walsh from over at the Daily Wire, condemning many right-winger's excuse-making. Another prominent conservative who has the moral fortitude to call the situation what it is:
"That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson -
Violence against others because of their nationality or race is one of the most despicable type? Seriously? I would say every act of violence against any human being for any fucking reason is equally despicable. If I had to drag them I would think that shooting children in school or beating raping and killing a woman would be more Despicable.
But of course no saying person thinks this kind of action is cool. The discussion has nothing to do with sanity.
WSS
Violence against others because of their nationality or race is one of the most despicable type? Seriously? I would say every act of violence against any human being for any fucking reason is equally despicable.
Can't really find the association between intervening violently between a man beating his girl vs someone going off with a gun on spanish folk.
Both violent acts. One, however, done with reason, intelligence and in defense of another.
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Matt Walsh from over at the Daily Wire, condemning many right-winger's excuse-making. Another prominent conservative who has the moral fortitude to call the situation what it is:
Matt Walsh from over at the Daily Wire, condemning many right-winger's excuse-making. Another prominent conservative who has the moral fortitude to call the situation what it is:
This is great because this board is already trying to do that....
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the "calling of it for what it was" is still not established - all the evidence is not in, per the police:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-texas-shooting-what-we-know/index.html
that's your lefties' CNN, you know. The article says this sicko murderer held these views for years before President Trump....
Not enough factual information out there only speculation.
This is the way far right terrorism works: it is foolish, bordering on suicidal, to attribute attacks like the El Paso shooting or the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting to “lone wolves”
the quote is typical "marching orders" from the leftist thought purveyors who shouldnt be allowed access to a keyboard...
no, the shootings like this and ALL others are done by sick lone wolves
with the exception of the radical islamic terrorists of course
Reason: El Paso Walmart Shooter Allegedly Wrote Anti-Immigrant Manifesto Calling Hispanics 'Invaders'
Like I said: right-wing, anti-immigrant terrorism.
Reason: El Paso Walmart Shooter Allegedly Wrote Anti-Immigrant Manifesto Calling Hispanics 'Invaders'
Like I said: right-wing, anti-immigrant terrorism.
The problem I have with this is (label intended to divide) terrorism. Does terrorism not effectively enough convey terrorism?
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Reason: El Paso Walmart Shooter Allegedly Wrote Anti-Immigrant Manifesto Calling Hispanics 'Invaders'
Like I said: right-wing, anti-immigrant terrorism.
The problem I have with this is (label intended to divide) terrorism. Does terrorism not effectively enough convey terrorism?
The problem I have with this is (label intended to divide) terrorism. Does terrorism not effectively enough convey terrorism?
No, because it should be classified. It is violence for a purpose
Terrorism - the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
What those political aims were defines the terrorism. Islamic extremists, extreme right wing, anarchy, whatever.
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So I expect you're willing to both acknowledge the grim history of left wing terrorism in this country and take responsibility for it, then?
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Beto O'Rourke links 'racist' Trump to El Paso shootings
AOL.COM 1 hr agoDemocratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Saturday blamed Donald Trump in part for the deadly El Paso shootings that killed 20 people because he said the president’s “racism” leads “to violence.”
O’Rourke attacked the president when he was asked by an ABC News reporter if Trump had any responsibility for the shootings.
“Yes,” O’Rourke flatly responded.
“We’ve had a rise in hate crimes every single one of the last three years, during an administration where you have a president who’s called Mexicans rapists and criminals,” said the former Texas congressman and El Paso native.
“He is a racist, and he stokes racism in this country,” O’Rourke added.” It does not just offend our sensibilities; it fundamentally changes the character of this country and it leads to violence
CNN has been blaming Trump also.
CNN has been blaming Trump also.
Of course they would...they will blame this president for everything under the sun.
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So I expect you're willing to both acknowledge the grim history of left wing terrorism in this country and take responsibility for it, then?
So I expect you're willing to both acknowledge the grim history of left wing terrorism in this country and take responsibility for it, then?
"Take responsibility"? What are you talking about?
If a terrorist had an extreme left wing manifesto than call him an extremist left wing terrorist. Idc. Whatever bias you think you're going to get out of me it isn't here.
Understanding the motives of a terrorist is an important step in trying to find a solution. I think you look at that and you look at how they were able to inflict their terror.
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