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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The article I posted was from the manifesto. Instead of just shooting the messenger let me know where the article is wrong? 

    All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.

    That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact. 

    The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.

    Again, read it yourself

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.

    That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact. 

    The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.

    Again, read it yourself

    Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you. 

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      The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

      https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

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      jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

      https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

      @oldbrownsfan said:

       Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

      Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..

      "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

      Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

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        @mld-woody said:

        All you ever are is a messenger. Just pasting articles here.

        That guy saw UBI and then claimed with certainty he's a progressive leftist. Just so people like you could find this article and post it in places like this as fact. 

        The entire heart of that guys manifesto is anti immigration. Everything else stems from it. It's pretty fucking clear.

        Again, read it yourself

        Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you. 

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        @oldbrownsfan said:

        Baloney because it makes me no difference to me personally what his motivation was. You are the one who will not listen to anything other than the narrative the MSM is spoon feeding you. 

        I READ HIS MANIFESTO MYSELF

        I DETERMINED MY OWN CONCLUSIONS

        I haven't consumed any "MSM" (read: news that says something you don't like) coverage on this. 

        You can't just blindly through that insult back at me when it has no fucking basis in reality.

        Again, read the damn thing yourself and see if you can develop your own opinion on one single thing for once in your life 

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        • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

          @oldbrownsfan said:

          The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

          https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

          @oldbrownsfan said:

           Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

          Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..

          "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

          Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @jbluhm86 said:

          "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

          Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

          From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story 

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            @jbluhm86 said:

            "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

            Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

            From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story 

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            jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story 

            And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...

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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story 

              And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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              @jbluhm86 said:

              And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...

              The article I posted gives both sides something missing from the MSM most of the time. Unless you don't think a person can be a progressive leftist and a racist at the same time. This killer shows you can be both actually.

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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

                https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

                @oldbrownsfan said:

                 Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

                Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..

                "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

                Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

                ahahaha

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by Clevfan4life
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                  the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                  im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

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                    @jbluhm86 said:

                    Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

                    ahahaha

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    ahahaha

                    That is your big comeback. More of the great intellect from the left ?

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                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                      The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

                      https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                       Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

                      Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..

                      "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

                      Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

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                      @jbluhm86 said:

                      Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

                      I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if the irony of that statement (given the banding together of everyone on the left with even slightly similar skin color banding together against those less pigmented) escaped you.

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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        The El Paso Shooter Admits he is a Progressive Leftist

                        https://www.sebgorka.com/the-el-paso-shooter-admits-he-is-a-progressive-leftist/?fbclid=IwAR2wqqj-XAB0OxhbSetE5C66sqtipgc34FeaUZ7WfZJMlH2rz8G5oIjyhnw

                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                         Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.”

                        Sounds like one of you lefty's on the board to me..

                        "Of course, the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language as he describes a “Hispanic invasion of Texas,” and a “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.” However, within the text, the shooter makes several comments that reveal his true political identity."

                        Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

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                        @jbluhm86 said:

                        Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

                        They’re not conservative positions either. 

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                          the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                          im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                          im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

                          I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

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                            the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                            im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                            im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

                            ?

                            You poor thing.

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                              @jbluhm86 said:

                              Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

                              They’re not conservative positions either. 

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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                              @chemist said:

                              They’re not conservative positions either. 

                              Can confirm.

                              But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

                               That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

                              Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

                              Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

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                                @chemist said:

                                They’re not conservative positions either. 

                                Can confirm.

                                But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

                                 That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

                                Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

                                Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

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                                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @tiamat63 said:

                                Can confirm.

                                But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

                                 That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

                                Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

                                Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

                                A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

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                                  Speaking of hypocrisy, would you care to throw down your 2 pennies on the 293 people murdered in Chicago in 2019 so far?

                                  over how msny instances were those 293 people murdered? oh and were tbey just random shootings? did one black guy shoot another black guy cause they thought he was too.light skinned? or were these directed gang/drug related hits?

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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  over how msny instances were those 293 people murdered? oh and were tbey just random shootings? did one black guy shoot another black guy cause they thought he was too.light skinned? or were these directed gang/drug related hits?

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                                    @tiamat63 said:

                                    Can confirm.

                                    But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

                                     That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

                                    Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

                                    Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

                                    A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

                                    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

                                    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

                                    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

                                    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

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                                      Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

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                                      @tiamat63 said:

                                      Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

                                      Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

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                                      .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

                                        im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

                                        I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

                                        White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

                                        "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

                                          Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

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                                          .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

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                                          @jafbf said:

                                          Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

                                          image.png.97d9de3332b27a2a4a44ed97b645752e.png

                                          .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

                                          This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

                                          Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

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